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[Last Edit: ARdvark]
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First time actually trying to group with my mod 1.
77 grain IMI OTM, 100 yards sandbag best two The rest in the album, i'd fairly call this an MOA rifle. Maybe better if I didnt suck at shooting! also, yes they are 3 shot groups... .526 low 1.776 high 1.15 average http://imgur.com/a/EBSfa |
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New friend shooting Mk12 for the first time
Iain shooting suppressed Mk12 Mod1 ?? |
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Originally Posted By ARdvark:
First time actually trying to group with my mod 1. 77 grain IMI OTM, 100 yards sandbag best two http://i.imgur.com/MogwUtb.jpg http://i.imgur.com/GxdKvSR.jpg The rest in the album, i'd fairly call this an MOA rifle. Maybe better if I didnt suck at shooting! also, yes they are 3 shot groups... .526 low 1.776 high 1.15 average http://imgur.com/a/EBSfa View Quote Nice job - I tried some IMI 77gr recently as well since it's a bit less costly that BH, and it did very well. I was able to put 3 in one ragged hole at 100 today with my Mod 1 with AEM5 and BH MK262 Mod1 77g... of course I had plenty more that were NOT in one hole ;), but at least I know the rifle is capable. of it. |
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Disregard
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-Things do not happen. Things are made to happen. -JFK
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Originally Posted By Minuteman1636:
Is this the right sight for a Mod 0 from 2004? I think the sight below is the closest that I will get to the rifle that I am holding in the photo. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/336740/SPR-04-155040.jpg https://e3pyyq.dm2302.livefilestore.com/y3mgEb0AAJX697suf_Xk7A-VSHPLOMq3G7ONHpw0ZCpZQfLnwWXqUQmtRJO51EVAuJKqBUVd5npdJjTjGfdjxWh2VVhm9LRiGM6R-4s69brZCRvT2j4lig3EbtQZ1qHsKU0h4L_42gu--tJKmukT2ftFWhtPIsmu91wu5Vu1DozsrY?width=450&height=600&cropmode=none https://fhpyyq.dm2302.livefilestore.com/y3m5dCh2qd-z3yilCVi3-Cf7PXL2PjERhxmdlwPF7xLTIAzSgANDFhCLFJXvO5xJaboyblxe9OWNVz4AfuXtDQcvG0_pLCdbbTeMeAA4Um9AdH3N3jq_YnvNAuv4slWhIas_bDwy_4J4uFzevD7cNa_Slqu3E-aFDh6Pv1mpdQ9JNg?width=700&height=466&cropmode=none View Quote Not really. The rifle you have pictured has the original front sight gas block with the thumb wheel elevation adjustment, these are really hard to find. The newer sight you have pictured below without the thumb wheel looks more like the ones used on the newer mod 0 rifles with the Gen III Pri tubes, differences being as far as I know all of the Mk12 PRI FSGB used on the real guns were the set screw type and the one you have pictured and the is the cross bolt type that most people use on clones. The set screw type is readily obtainable as far as I know the problem is most "SPR" profiled barrels don't have the flats milled for the set screws, ADCO can take care of this in quick order. |
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Awesome pic.
Looks like an M24 peeking out behind the Mk12 too (you can see the barrel behind the front sight and the Harris). Did the Army often shoot the MK12 side-by-side with the bolt guns? Was it usually two shooters or one switching between both rifles? |
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View Quote Good to see new photos of early guns |
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Please excuse my ways.
former 45B, Small-Arms Instructor, DOL 3rd shop Tech. Machinist. ~do what you love~ |
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nvm for now
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Can anyone confirm that this is the correct collar for a Mod 1?
https://dsgarms.com/ale22-mount-kit I know correct spec is the long collar, but I just tried to look up a shot of each and got overwhelmed with all the collars Allen Engineering makes. I know I need the SPR collar, but it seems like there's a long and a short, and I can't tell which this is in this package with the brake. Thanks, fellas! |
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Originally Posted By vanquishings:
Can anyone confirm that this is the correct collar for a Mod 1? https://dsgarms.com/ale22-mount-kit I know correct spec is the long collar, but I just tried to look up a shot of each and got overwhelmed with all the collars Allen Engineering makes. I know I need the SPR collar, but it seems like there's a long and a short, and I can't tell which this is in this package with the brake. Thanks, fellas! View Quote That looks like a short one to me. |
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My mod 0 upper from PRI came with a short collar. Long collar is correct though.
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Yup, my understanding is that the long is correct for both, but it'd be nice to know for sure. I'm going Mod 1 so I don't have to worry about a FSB encroaching on collar territory.
Is this the long? Want to confirm before I place my order. http://www.capitolarmory.com/allen-engineering-locating-collar-spr.html |
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Originally Posted By vanquishings:
Yup, my understanding is that the long is correct for both, but it'd be nice to know for sure. I'm going Mod 1 so I don't have to worry about a FSB encroaching on collar territory. Is this the long? Want to confirm before I place my order. http://www.capitolarmory.com/allen-engineering-locating-collar-spr.html View Quote Long is correct for both. I believe they started making the short collar when PRI went away from the original FSGB with the elevation wheel. It was slimmer in the front so the collar didn't interfere. The new FSGB was causing the collar to hit it before resting on the shoulder of the barrel. That looks like the long collar and that is what they say it is. This one here if for sure the correct one, it's cheaper than the one you posted and ADCO is an awesome company. |
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Originally Posted By Mblades:
Long is correct for both. I believe they started making the short collar when PRI went away from the original FSGB with the elevation wheel. It was slimmer in the front so the collar didn't interfere. The new FSGB was causing the collar to hit it before resting on the shoulder of the barrel. That looks like the long collar and that is what they say it is. This one here if for sure the correct one, it's cheaper than the one you posted and ADCO is an awesome company. View Quote Ah, that makes sense. I've seen some of the older PRI wheel FSBs with the long collar and it is uncomfortably close. Makes sense they made a shorter one. I doubt it was a hard mod to begin with, using a grinding wheel, but it's nice they made one. I love ADCO, but they're charging $25 for the thread protector. Site I linked to has this: http://www.capitolarmory.com/allen-engineering-aemb-muzzle-brake-mount.html I know it's not much, but this build is crazy expensive, and I'm just trying to pinch some pennies. |
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Originally Posted By 78Staff: Check Page 618 of this thread for one... Seems like mounts are almost like slings ITW - We've seen LT104's, Badger Unimounts, NF rings, etc. http://i.imgur.com/8aPTUuQ.jpg Of course you can always bridge the gap like this guy, but most do not recommend... http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r249/RTUtah/2hnuvrs_zpsjryfwgou.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By 78Staff: Originally Posted By Davey_Sickboy:
Can you guys post some pics of in the wild mod1s using the LaRue mount? Wanting to go a different route than the ARMS rings, but don't want to sacrifice clone correctness for comfort. Also, what mount yall using for the doctor on the trr? Check Page 618 of this thread for one... Seems like mounts are almost like slings ITW - We've seen LT104's, Badger Unimounts, NF rings, etc. http://i.imgur.com/8aPTUuQ.jpg Of course you can always bridge the gap like this guy, but most do not recommend... http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r249/RTUtah/2hnuvrs_zpsjryfwgou.jpg Please excuse my magpul back up sights, I sold my KAC sights a few years ago to help fund the YHM suppressor in the pic. I have another KAC 600m sight, just haven't bought another front sight yet. |
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Maybe I'm missing something, but I always thought the issue was barrel length differences. The gas block position is based on the distance from the receiver, and the collar position is based on the muzzle. If the barrel spec was 18" and your barrel is shorter, the distance between the gas block and collar is reduced - and so the collar doesn't seat properly.
With some barrels being 18.1" and some more like 17.9", the shorter barrels would have problems with the long collar and Mod0 gas block. Am I looking at it wrong? |
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The understanding I've gleaned from multiple posts on the collar and barrel dimension issue is that the original military specs only allowed ~3 threads of engagement for the suppressor and the military did not want to change the spec to allow the recommended 6 to 8 threads. When suppressors began selling to civilians OPS Inc. or Allen Engineering changed the barrel profile spec to move the step for the collar back a little and allow more thread engagement. This resulted in the long collars contacting the PRI front sight base before the step on the barrel, thus the introduction of the shorter collar. I have a barrel from Centurion Arms and the long collar will definitely hit the front sight base before the the barrel step but I also get 7 full threads of engagement using the shorter collar. It may be true but I have never seen side by side comparisons or measurements to show that the new and old front sight bases are significantly different sizes.
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Originally Posted By vanquishings:
Ah, that makes sense. I've seen some of the older PRI wheel FSBs with the long collar and it is uncomfortably close. Makes sense they made a shorter one. I doubt it was a hard mod to begin with, using a grinding wheel, but it's nice they made one. I love ADCO, but they're charging $25 for the thread protector. Site I linked to has this: http://www.capitolarmory.com/allen-engineering-aemb-muzzle-brake-mount.html I know it's not much, but this build is crazy expensive, and I'm just trying to pinch some pennies. View Quote Then you are in the wrong clone game mang |
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Originally Posted By usnguns:
View Quote Is this in the wild? Or somebody's personal rifle. And they weren't actually issued with them....like 3.5-10 on a mod1. Just kinda something that's excepted in the clone community. Like that one guy that put a LR/T on a mod1 from a mod0, still had the 22M's on them and he had to move his buis cuz they wouldn't clear. So if this pic isn't of a SF Guy in civies, then the only pic of the LaRue mount is of that guy with the Premier? scope and funky stock? Not trying to bash anyone with these things on their mod1's, just trying to figure out my options. I understand their are "as issued" clones and "seen in the wild" clones. But when cloning a "seen in the wild" or "sitw" should one clone the whole rifle, or just the parts that are convenient for them. Like you don't pick out the things you like about Sgt Miller's rifle and say it was seen in the wild....you clone his fuckin rifle! Which btw was done beautifully. What I'm trying to figure out is if I go with a LaRue, would it be clone correct with my 2.5-8 or would I have to use that Premier and transformer stock? |
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Does anyone know when A.R.M.S., Inc, began producing #22 rings with the lever stops?
I found a shop online that has a bunch of #22H rings listed as in stock. When I contacted them about whether any happened to be old stock without the lever stops, they told me that they couldn't pull them to check but that the rings arrived in their inventory in November 2013. |
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Originally Posted By Doc_Lane:
Does anyone know when A.R.M.S., Inc, began producing #22 rings with the lever stops? I found a shop online that has a bunch of #22H rings listed as in stock. When I contacted them about whether any happened to be old stock without the lever stops, they told me that they couldn't pull them to check but that the rings arrived in their inventory in November 2013. View Quote Someone will come along shortly who knows but I can tell you it was approx 2013 when I built my Mod 0 and the rings I received had the lever stops. |
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Originally Posted By Doc_Lane:
Does anyone know when A.R.M.S., Inc, began producing #22 rings with the lever stops? I found a shop online that has a bunch of #22H rings listed as in stock. When I contacted them about whether any happened to be old stock without the lever stops, they told me that they couldn't pull them to check but that the rings arrived in their inventory in November 2013. View Quote I bought a set of #22M rings direct from A.R.M.S. in March of 2013 with stops. |
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Originally Posted By Doc_Lane:
Does anyone know when A.R.M.S., Inc, began producing #22 rings with the lever stops? I found a shop online that has a bunch of #22H rings listed as in stock. When I contacted them about whether any happened to be old stock without the lever stops, they told me that they couldn't pull them to check but that the rings arrived in their inventory in November 2013. View Quote It's been around 10 years if I had to guess. There is a reason they are hard to find |
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Thanks, guys, for the info on the dates. I assumed they had lever stops before late 2013, but figured I'd ask.
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Originally Posted By Davey_Sickboy:
Is this in the wild? Or somebody's personal rifle. And they weren't actually issued with them....like 3.5-10 on a mod1. Just kinda something that's excepted in the clone community. Like that one guy that put a LR/T on a mod1 from a mod0, still had the 22M's on them and he had to move his buis cuz they wouldn't clear. So if this pic isn't of a SF Guy in civies, then the only pic of the LaRue mount is of that guy with the Premier? scope and funky stock? Not trying to bash anyone with these things on their mod1's, just trying to figure out my options. I understand their are "as issued" clones and "seen in the wild" clones. But when cloning a "seen in the wild" or "sitw" should one clone the whole rifle, or just the parts that are convenient for them. Like you don't pick out the things you like about Sgt Miller's rifle and say it was seen in the wild....you clone his fuckin rifle! Which btw was done beautifully. What I'm trying to figure out is if I go with a LaRue, would it be clone correct with my 2.5-8 or would I have to use that Premier and transformer stock? View Quote Well the pic with the Premier and LT104 is from a sniper comp at Bragg circa 2010 or thereabouts, if I was running in a comp, I would like to have a better optic than was issued. With regards to the pic posted by usnguns, that appears to be a peq mounted on the left side. I'm sure certain units have a little leeway on which optics they run and how they are mounted, not sure that would extend into regular units. |
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Hey guys I got lucky enough to get a TS30A2 with a set of no lever stop #22 highs for $600.... Since I already have a set of brand new NLS #22 highs, I'll be letting these go. I'd really like a surplus Mk12 case if anyone would like to trade? If not they will be listed in the EE in a few days, But I really want a case.
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-Things do not happen. Things are made to happen. -JFK
-Beware the fury of a patient man. -Thousands and thousands of laws....All for just ten commandments. -"alot" is not a word. |
Dean Winchester wishes he was this cool
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Hay guise.
DSG Arms has the AEM5 on sale for mil/LE types right now. just over 5 bills shipped. I know cause I broke down and ordered. |
Cunnilingus aside, that is fucking awesome.
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Dean Winchester wishes he was this cool
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Cunnilingus aside, that is fucking awesome.
--secretwheelman Perfection can't be achieved from inside the rattle can. --RTUtah |
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where in Minnesota do you live? I also live in Minnesota, but go to school in NODAK. Tan is perfect for the flat nothingness of North Dakota :]
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Originally Posted By ArmedFerret:
what show? the thing is normally 600 at military pricing; the sale email just went out today. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By ArmedFerret:
Originally Posted By voodochild:
Welcome to the show... what show? the thing is normally 600 at military pricing; the sale email just went out today. F-bargain compared to what I paid for the OPS Inc I bought years ago. |
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Manuals are in and look great. Identical to the mod 1 manuals except they are mod 0/1. I have a list I've been keeping that I will post tonight. I also have maybe 4-5 more mod 1 manuals beyond the alternate list so if you HAVE NOT contacted me previously for a mod 1 manual and you want one then email me. Whoever wants the mod 0/1 manuals can email me also. Like I said I have a list of 20-25 of you.
PLEASE EMAIL ONLY. it's too hard to keep track of IM and email and if you sent both so please email. They are the same price as the mod 1 manuals. 14.00 each shipped. Attached File |
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URX II for SR-25(7.62) carbine length. A.R.M.S #36 swan sleeve-PEQ-2 or MOD with no notches for gen 3 PRI tube |
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Originally Posted By Samson-Dogg:
Manuals are in and look great. Identical to the mod 1 manuals except they are mod 0/1. I have a list I've been keeping that I will post tonight. I also have maybe 4-5 more mod 1 manuals beyond the alternate list so if you HAVE NOT contacted me previously for a mod 1 manual and you want one then email me. Whoever wants the mod 0/1 manuals can email me also. Like I said I have a list of 20-25 of you. PLEASE EMAIL ONLY. it's too hard to keep track of IM and email and if you sent both so please email. They are the same price as the mod 1 manuals. 14.00 each shipped. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/330914/IMG-3104-156614.JPG View Quote |
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Originally Posted By Samson-Dogg:
Manuals are in and look great. Identical to the mod 1 manuals except they are mod 0/1. I have a list I've been keeping that I will post tonight. I also have maybe 4-5 more mod 1 manuals beyond the alternate list so if you HAVE NOT contacted me previously for a mod 1 manual and you want one then email me. Whoever wants the mod 0/1 manuals can email me also. Like I said I have a list of 20-25 of you. PLEASE EMAIL ONLY. it's too hard to keep track of IM and email and if you sent both so please email. They are the same price as the mod 1 manuals. 14.00 each shipped. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/330914/IMG-3104-156614.JPG View Quote Looks good. |
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I got my AEM 5 from DSGArms back in june . Its still in atf jail. Called today to check the status. They said there in a 9 month backlog.
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Originally Posted By Samson-Dogg:
Manuals are in and look great. Identical to the mod 1 manuals except they are mod 0/1. I have a list I've been keeping that I will post tonight. I also have maybe 4-5 more mod 1 manuals beyond the alternate list so if you HAVE NOT contacted me previously for a mod 1 manual and you want one then email me. Whoever wants the mod 0/1 manuals can email me also. Like I said I have a list of 20-25 of you. PLEASE EMAIL ONLY. it's too hard to keep track of IM and email and if you sent both so please email. They are the same price as the mod 1 manuals. 14.00 each shipped. View Quote Thank you. Funds and email sent. |
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