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Posted: 2/20/2017 2:47:55 PM EDT
[Last Edit: BMPRacing]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By aaron580:
Whos rifle is this? I so want the colt canada porn...  Not for sure. Grabbed it offline. Brad Edit: Just saw Larry Vickers posted it a while back. |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 2/20/2017 3:28:43 PM EDT
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Looking to take the mk12 out for some ground hog shooting next month, anyone shooting the lighter 40-50gr tipped varmint bullets with a 18" 1-8tw (1-7.7). Any problems with jackets separating, what kind of accuracy should I expect.
I handload for 300 yards+, exclusively 69-77gr smk, tmk, hpbt, amax. Just never tried the lighter weights. Any help much appreciated. |
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Posted: 2/20/2017 3:39:24 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/20/2017 6:28:14 PM EDT
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I have a question for the experts here. There is a pre ban rifle for sale here in Mass ( only pre bans can be purchased now) that has an A1 upper and a SP1 lower. Would this set up be worth pursuing , or would a SP1 lower be completely incorrect for a MK12?
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Posted: 2/20/2017 6:36:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By B191299:
I have a question for the experts here. There is a pre ban rifle for sale here in Mass ( only pre bans can be purchased now) that has an A1 upper and a SP1 lower. Would this set up be worth pursuing , or would a SP1 lower be completely incorrect for a MK12? If you want the correct a1 profile for the mk12.... as far as pre Ban receivers go look out for pwa commando's, sendra's, and Olympic's. The sp1 is profiled right in the rear but it's a slab side which is very noticeable. Then if it's a large pin you have to use a large pin upper or open up the pivot hole on a normal M4 upper. I'm in CT and in the same boat so I've been looking into this for a while. |
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Posted: 2/20/2017 6:45:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dobs013:
If you want the correct a1 profile for the mk12.... as far as pre Ban receivers go look out for pwa commando's, sendra's, and Olympic's. The sp1 is profiled right in the rear but it's a slab side which is very noticeable. Then if it's a large pin you have to use a large pin upper or open up the pivot hole on a normal M4 upper. I'm in CT and in the same boat so I've been looking into this for a while. So the colt I bought is way off? |
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Posted: 2/20/2017 6:55:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By plinker8:
So the colt I bought is way off? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By plinker8:
Originally Posted By Dobs013:
If you want the correct a1 profile for the mk12.... as far as pre Ban receivers go look out for pwa commando's, sendra's, and Olympic's. The sp1 is profiled right in the rear but it's a slab side which is very noticeable. Then if it's a large pin you have to use a large pin upper or open up the pivot hole on a normal M4 upper. I'm in CT and in the same boat so I've been looking into this for a while. So the colt I bought is way off? I wouldn't say way off....I'm using an a2 profile lower until I can figure out if I really want to dump 1k on a lower that is the correct profile. I would say it's about the same as me using an a2. You have the correct profile around the receiver extension but have a slab on one side of the magwell....I have the right magwell but the wrong profile by the receiver extension. Unfortunately when you are limited to pre bans it's kinda a use what you got scenario unless you have the money and patience to look for one of the ones I listed before. I don't really think anyone will give you a hard time under the circumstances. It's a miracle we're still building behind enemy lines..: |
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Posted: 2/20/2017 7:01:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dobs013:
I wouldn't say way off....I'm using an a2 profile lower until I can figure out if I really want to dump 1k on a lower that is the correct profile. I would say it's about the same as me using an a2. You have the correct profile around the receiver extension but have a slab on one side of the magwell....I have the right magwell but the wrong profile by the receiver extension. Unfortunately when you are limited to pre bans it's kinda a use what you got scenario unless you have the money and patience to look for one of the ones I listed before. I don't really think anyone will give you a hard time under the circumstances. It's a miracle we're still building behind enemy lines..: Got that right  Thanks for the info
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TX, USA
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Posted: 2/20/2017 7:11:25 PM EDT
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How hard is it to get a TS-30A2 Mk12 Mod 1 scope and is it worth it for a clone?
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Posted: 2/20/2017 7:12:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By plinker8:
Got that right Thanks for the infoQuote HistoryOriginally Posted By plinker8:
Originally Posted By Dobs013:
I wouldn't say way off....I'm using an a2 profile lower until I can figure out if I really want to dump 1k on a lower that is the correct profile. I would say it's about the same as me using an a2. You have the correct profile around the receiver extension but have a slab on one side of the magwell....I have the right magwell but the wrong profile by the receiver extension. Unfortunately when you are limited to pre bans it's kinda a use what you got scenario unless you have the money and patience to look for one of the ones I listed before. I don't really think anyone will give you a hard time under the circumstances. It's a miracle we're still building behind enemy lines..: Got that right Thanks for the infoNo problem....keep up the fight |
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Posted: 2/20/2017 7:14:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dobs013:
I wouldn't say way off....I'm using an a2 profile lower until I can figure out if I really want to dump 1k on a lower that is the correct profile. I would say it's about the same as me using an a2. You have the correct profile around the receiver extension but have a slab on one side of the magwell....I have the right magwell but the wrong profile by the receiver extension. Unfortunately when you are limited to pre bans it's kinda a use what you got scenario unless you have the money and patience to look for one of the ones I listed before. I don't really think anyone will give you a hard time under the circumstances. It's a miracle we're still building behind enemy lines..: Thanks for the help. I think you are right- we are lucky to be building anything in these States! |
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Posted: 2/20/2017 7:31:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By B191299:
Thanks for the help. I think you are right- we are lucky to be building anything in these States! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By B191299:
Originally Posted By Dobs013:
I wouldn't say way off....I'm using an a2 profile lower until I can figure out if I really want to dump 1k on a lower that is the correct profile. I would say it's about the same as me using an a2. You have the correct profile around the receiver extension but have a slab on one side of the magwell....I have the right magwell but the wrong profile by the receiver extension. Unfortunately when you are limited to pre bans it's kinda a use what you got scenario unless you have the money and patience to look for one of the ones I listed before. I don't really think anyone will give you a hard time under the circumstances. It's a miracle we're still building behind enemy lines..: Thanks for the help. I think you are right- we are lucky to be building anything in these States! Yeah no problem, build on! |
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Posted: 2/20/2017 7:42:09 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Engineer5]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ed_Mag:
How hard is it to get a TS-30A2 Mk12 Mod 1 scope and is it worth it for a clone? Leupold stopped selling them on the civilian market. Most of the vendors are out of them now but they're out there on the used market so it's not hard to get one. I've seen three for sale here in the EE in the last several weeks. Is it worth it for a clone? It depends on if you want a "clone" or not. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 2/20/2017 8:15:41 PM EDT
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Found a new one for $1,500. Is that a good price?
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Posted: 2/20/2017 8:21:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RubiconJk:
Looking to take the mk12 out for some ground hog shooting next month, anyone shooting the lighter 40-50gr tipped varmint bullets with a 18" 1-8tw (1-7.7). Any problems with jackets separating, what kind of accuracy should I expect. I handload for 300 yards+, exclusively 69-77gr smk, tmk, hpbt, amax. Just never tried the lighter weights. Any help much appreciated. RubiconJK, to be honest I need to do this myself, I have an untapped source of lighter 22 caliber varmint bullets and I've simply never gotten around to taking the time to try them out in my 1/7 or 1/7.7. Every year I do a little p-dog shooting in Montana while I'm there for some rifle matches, I just shoot the 77's that I have loaded and call it good. Another project I guess I need to take on. |
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Posted: 2/20/2017 8:39:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ed_Mag:
Found a new one for $1,500. Is that a good price? Ed_Mag, I believe that's a very strong price for the 112633 model (TS-30 A2), There's very little difference visually between the 112633 and the 67925 which still seem to be plentiful. The 112633 has the index marks for mounting, battery cap lanyard, I'm not sure if both models have the locking eyepiece, I'm sure someone will know. The 67925 are significantly cheaper than $1500 I believe, plus a little spray paint and who would know. |
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Posted: 2/20/2017 8:41:36 PM EDT
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Not for me...If you keep your eyes out they can be found for around $900
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Posted: 2/20/2017 8:41:59 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Engineer5]
[#18]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ed_Mag:
Found a new one for $1,500. Is that a good price? No, that's high. They were selling new for $1000. |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 2/20/2017 9:20:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tamboi:
RubiconJK, to be honest I need to do this myself, I have an untapped source of lighter 22 caliber varmint bullets and I've simply never gotten around to taking the time to try them out in my 1/7 or 1/7.7. Every year I do a little p-dog shooting in Montana while I'm there for some rifle matches, I just shoot the 77's that I have loaded and call it good. Another project I guess I need to take on. The lightest I've shot is 55gr midway dogtown bullets, and they shot fair. By fair I mean .90 best, average 1.10" at 100y. With the heavy pills I usually get consistent groups around .65-.70" at 100. I'd like to try some of the 50gr zmax or varmageddon since they are a steal for 500 but idk if they would be suitable for 1-7.7tw or if it's just a waste of time. With benchmark or cfe, velocity is well above 3200fps on the low end and factoring in twist rate put them up in the rpm range and I've seen lighter jacketed bullets destroyed upon exiting barrel at 29k rpms. I do have a good supply, 1k+, of heavier rounds loaded, but I'd like to shoot the light rounds instead and save the 70-80gr for longer ranges. Plus I kinda like the idea of loading up 200 rounds of 50gr pills in the same time it takes to do 100 "LR" rounds. Time is money, as they say. There has got to be someone here that shoots these on the regular out of a spr/mk12 that could lend some firsthand knowledge. Speak up, I'm all ears. |
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Posted: 2/20/2017 10:12:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Engineer5:
No, that's high. They were selling new for $1000. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Engineer5:
Originally Posted By Ed_Mag:
Found a new one for $1,500. Is that a good price? No, that's high. They were selling new for $1000. Definitely high. I'll say that if you're not opposed to spending that much on an optic you should probably look into the 2.5-10x24 NF. Sport Optics looks to still have the MIL variant for just over $1,800. |
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Posted: 2/20/2017 10:53:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By StevieJ309:
Definitely high. I'll say that if you're not opposed to spending that much on an optic you should probably look into the 2.5-10x24 NF. Sport Optics looks to still have the MIL variant for just over $1,800. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By StevieJ309:
Originally Posted By Engineer5:
Originally Posted By Ed_Mag:
Found a new one for $1,500. Is that a good price? No, that's high. They were selling new for $1000. Definitely high. I'll say that if you're not opposed to spending that much on an optic you should probably look into the 2.5-10x24 NF. Sport Optics looks to still have the MIL variant for just over $1,800. There's one in the EE for $1550. |
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Posted: 2/21/2017 1:34:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TinyCrumb:
Haha, yes, it's just twine and I originally got the idea from LS. I was listening to a podcast where one of the SEAL consultants for the movie talked about it and thought I'd try it since I didn't necessarily want to paint my can. It's worked really well, it certainly does a nice job w/ camo and as an added benefit it keeps the can cool enough to the touch that I can always handle it bare handed. Since I never use my unpainted Mod 1 anymore I might still just paint the can, but for now this works great. Older post, but I bookmakred it waiting on my F4. Now that my AEM5 is safely home - @TinyCrumb is that just Jute Twine, Kitchen Twine, or other? Who knew there were so many different types of twine lol |
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Posted: 2/21/2017 4:17:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 78Staff:
Older post, but I bookmakred it waiting on my F4. Now that my AEM5 is safely home - @TinyCrumb is that just Jute Twine, Kitchen Twine, or other? Who knew there were so many different types of twine lol Congrats on the can stamp clearing. I have no idea. I literally went in the junk drawer in the kitchen, found a roll of twine and used it. I would think any old twine would do. |
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Posted: 2/21/2017 2:20:13 PM EDT
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More wingless logos!
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Posted: 2/21/2017 5:39:38 PM EDT
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So did the Mod0 have the lower 8.5" rail mounted on any of them seen ITW or is it just the Holland?
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Posted: 2/21/2017 5:59:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TinyCrumb:
Congrats on the can stamp clearing. I have no idea. I literally went in the junk drawer in the kitchen, found a roll of twine and used it. I would think any old twine would do. Great, I have some kitchen twine, so will try that. I was worried about the heat but i guess if it works for cooking/ovens I shouldn't worry about it. Even if it does burn it's a cheap/easy replacement :). |
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Posted: 2/21/2017 6:00:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mad4wd:
So did the Mod0 have the lower 8.5" rail mounted on any of them seen ITW or is it just the Holland? Most of the late mod 0's with the gen 3 tube had the long bottom rail.... 
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Posted: 2/21/2017 6:10:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 78Staff:
Yes, It's the Desert Sage Hi-Temp - A bit lighter than I expected, but I assume will darken up a bit with use - not sure - but I've also painted my rifle once or twice since I ordered it lol it had more green originally. I've got several coats on it now so thinking about stripping and putting fresh coat on, something more greenish again instead of sand/brown. I also had a Socom cerakoted in Coyote Brown for the MK18, but still got a few weeks wait on that one I believe. A few pics from the range today... One thing that really stood out is how quiet it was at the shooters ear. First time suppressor shooter, and I knew it wouldn't be "movie quiet" - I actually think I had lowered my expectations too much. Behind the trigger all I hear is the action and the buffer spring... pretty dang amazing. With no earpro you do hear the crack, but with typical earplugs in it's very quiet. 
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/385949/20170218-131621-149334.jpg So I "greened it up" some more, moving back to a more green/woodland theme I suppose over Sand/Brown. Desert Sage Cerakote is still way to light, but since I'm going to cover it (twine wrap most likely) I'm not going to worry about it. I could get it re-done in a darker green ie Foliage or similar but going to roll with it for now... Held off on painting over the scope, wanted to be sure I like the outcome first :) Probably just dust it with some Aervoe Forest Green TBH vs all the masking work. 
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Posted: 2/21/2017 7:08:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dobs013:
Most of the late mod 0's with the gen 3 tube had the long bottom rail.... Thanks Dobs |
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Posted: 2/21/2017 7:13:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mad4wd:
Thanks Dobs Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mad4wd:
Originally Posted By Dobs013:
Most of the late mod 0's with the gen 3 tube had the long bottom rail.... Thanks Dobs Anytime man |
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TN, USA
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Posted: 2/21/2017 8:43:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 78Staff:
So I "greened it up" some more, moving back to a more green/woodland theme I suppose over Sand/Brown. Desert Sage Cerakote is still way to light, but since I'm going to cover it (twine wrap most likely) I'm not going to worry about it. I could get it re-done in a darker green ie Foliage or similar but going to roll with it for now... Held off on painting over the scope, wanted to be sure I like the outcome first :) Probably just dust it with some Aervoe Forest Green TBH vs all the masking work. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/385949/20170221-163536-151316.jpg Looks good I like the green on it. |
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Posted: 2/21/2017 8:55:12 PM EDT
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Starting a Mod 1 build finally. This upper is in route.
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Posted: 2/21/2017 9:13:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AZJBT:
Starting a Mod 1 build finally. This upper is in route. http://i65.tinypic.com/20fx4zo.jpg Solid acquisition. |
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IA, USA
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Posted: 2/21/2017 9:24:00 PM EDT
[Last Edit: BMPRacing]
[#34]
B191299 you are a great guy! I just received the short SPR collar. Fits like a glove! I will pay it forward soon to the MK12 crew and offer something up. Thanks again bro!
Brad 
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TN, USA
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Posted: 2/21/2017 10:02:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AZJBT:
Starting a Mod 1 build finally. This upper is in route. http://i65.tinypic.com/20fx4zo.jpg I am starting a mod1 too, I'm going to go real slow with it. I'm on a waiting list for the handguard I found on the ee, bought a badger gas block from Brownells. |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 2/21/2017 11:49:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BrennanHuff556:
what barrel did you end up with on the Holland beast master? Ballistic Advantage 16"- heard nothing but good things about em- |
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Posted: 2/22/2017 12:15:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ghicks80:
Looks good I like the green on it. Thanks yeah at first I though it might be too green, but the more I looked at it the more I like it green. |
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WI, USA
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Posted: 2/22/2017 1:13:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RubiconJk:
The lightest I've shot is 55gr midway dogtown bullets, and they shot fair. By fair I mean .90 best, average 1.10" at 100y. With the heavy pills I usually get consistent groups around .65-.70" at 100. I'd like to try some of the 50gr zmax or varmageddon since they are a steal for 500 but idk if they would be suitable for 1-7.7tw or if it's just a waste of time. With benchmark or cfe, velocity is well above 3200fps on the low end and factoring in twist rate put them up in the rpm range and I've seen lighter jacketed bullets destroyed upon exiting barrel at 29k rpms. I do have a good supply, 1k+, of heavier rounds loaded, but I'd like to shoot the light rounds instead and save the 70-80gr for longer ranges. Plus I kinda like the idea of loading up 200 rounds of 50gr pills in the same time it takes to do 100 "LR" rounds. Time is money, as they say. There has got to be someone here that shoots these on the regular out of a spr/mk12 that could lend some firsthand knowledge. Speak up, I'm all ears. My 1/7 recce shoots the Federal American Eagle 50 grain Varmint Tipped pretty well. Does not look like they are coming apart at all. I haven't shot them at 100 yet though. I plan to. Or wait, did I? I'll go back and look at my pics..... 
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Posted: 2/22/2017 9:08:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BMPRacing:
B191299 you are a great guy! I just received the short SPR collar. Fits like a glove! I will pay it forward soon to the MK12 crew and offer something up. Thanks again bro! Brad |
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Posted: 2/22/2017 9:44:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Beast_Master_Actual:
m Ballistic Advantage 16"- heard nothing but good things about em- Mine has been shipped......can't wait to get it. Getting close now, just need handrail and the Pri recce rail and Arms rings. |
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Posted: 2/22/2017 11:54:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 78Staff:
Thanks yeah at first I though it might be too green, but the more I looked at it the more I like it green. I'm a big green fan so in my opinion you can't have too much lol, of course I love in eastern TN so desert doesn't fit here. |
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Posted: 2/22/2017 12:03:16 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Samson-Dogg]
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The mod 0/1 manuals are being printed today. It looks like they will be the same price or a little less than the mod 1 manuals. I'm also getting more mod 1 manuals so I'll contact the guys on that list soon. I have a list of 25-30 for mod 0/1 manuals but I'll get that going and collect for them soon. I just want them in my hands before any money changes hands.
@lancecriminal- I tried to IM you because I lost your email. Your inbox was full. Please email me again. I wanted to discuss the mod 0 manual. Thanks |
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Posted: 2/22/2017 12:39:10 PM EDT
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I've noticed a VERY curious trend in pics taken of Mk 12's ( and also all guns in general). Shots taken indoors........look at the large percentage of weapons photographed on granite counter tops. WTF? We either have good taste, or select gals who also have good taste ( actually that's very obvious
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Posted: 2/22/2017 12:52:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By exhogflyer:
I've noticed a VERY curious trend in pics taken of Mk 12's ( and also all guns in general). Shots taken indoors........look at the large percentage of weapons photographed on granite counter tops. WTF? We either have good taste, or select gals who also have good taste ( actually that's very obvious )I'm formica yo. Came with the house, too cheap to upgrade (and wouldn't see much return if any on the investment; nothing else in the neighborhood has granite so pricing way above everything else would be out of place). When I can finally afford a SFH (maryland is fucking retarded on pricing and I only get so much BAH) i'll spec granite for sure. |
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Posted: 2/22/2017 7:27:02 PM EDT
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Parts are coming in.......yeeeeehaaaaaa!
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Posted: 2/22/2017 9:05:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Beast_Master_Actual:
m Ballistic Advantage 16"- heard nothing but good things about em- nice happy you finished the trio, love your rifles been stealing pics of your camo jobs for the last year, hope you don't mind! 
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AL, USA
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Posted: 2/23/2017 12:45:12 AM EDT
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Anyone ever see a KAC front sight with a round sight post instead of square? Is one of these fake?
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Posted: 2/23/2017 1:30:12 AM EDT
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LT111 showed up! F1 fits great in there and the eye relief is perfect.
Now I gotta decide if I want to paint my nightforce or not 
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Posted: 2/23/2017 7:23:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By blackhawk400:
Anyone ever see a KAC front sight with a round sight post instead of square? Is one of these fake? |
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Posted: 2/23/2017 9:34:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By K_weez:
LT111 showed up! F1 fits great in there and the eye relief is perfect. Now I gotta decide if I want to paint my nightforce or not
http://i.imgur.com/cAFGh1h.jpg?1 Sticks out like a sore thumb. Get busy. |
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