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Posted: 9/22/2010 12:48:22 PM EST
I am wanting an AR15 just to shoot at trees and stuff when i get the random urge to shoot. Nothing special whatsoever. Only criteria is a flat top upper....... I have built one before so I am definitely willing to build one again. Just want cheap.......
Link Posted: 9/22/2010 12:50:11 PM EST
.22 LR or WASR.

Link Posted: 9/22/2010 12:53:53 PM EST
Poor trees.


Buds Gun shop dot com and look at the Double Star Ar's.
Link Posted: 9/22/2010 12:56:01 PM EST
How cheap is "cheap"?
Link Posted: 9/22/2010 12:56:59 PM EST
sorry i left out that i wanted it to be 5.56.
Link Posted: 9/22/2010 12:57:00 PM EST
CMMG bargain bin rifles are inexpensive.
Link Posted: 9/22/2010 12:58:00 PM EST
As cheap as possible....
Link Posted: 9/22/2010 1:00:49 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/22/2010 1:01:15 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/22/2010 1:01:30 PM EST by jcrowl]
check out the Equipment Exchange, you might be able to find a good deal on a used rifle.
Link Posted: 9/22/2010 1:10:29 PM EST

Originally Posted By reyno2ac:
CMMG bargain bin rifles are inexpensive.

INB4 ADCO ... you get what you pay for
Link Posted: 9/22/2010 1:14:11 PM EST
Wasn't there just a thread on the subject of CMMG bargain basement rifles?
Link Posted: 9/22/2010 1:18:42 PM EST

Originally Posted By jcrowl:
Wasn't there just a thread on the subject of CMMG bargain basement rifles?

There were a couple ... can you guess how they went
Link Posted: 9/22/2010 1:25:28 PM EST
Originally Posted By Viper121791:
As cheap as possible....


Well, advise your budget then. "As cheap as possible" still maintains a few variables.
Link Posted: 9/22/2010 1:39:21 PM EST

Originally Posted By jcrowl:
check out the Equipment Exchange, you might be able to find a good deal on a used rifle.


Link Posted: 9/22/2010 1:49:15 PM EST
Originally Posted By reyno2ac:
CMMG bargain bin rifles are inexpensive.


This. Also from what I've read they are pretty good to go.

Also don't be a moron, don't shoot trees. Buy a 2x4 and build a target stand. Geez...
Link Posted: 9/22/2010 2:20:04 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/22/2010 2:24:01 PM EST
If you want the cheapest, get yourself a Blackthorn ...... LOL
Link Posted: 9/22/2010 2:24:34 PM EST
Originally Posted By TEAMSHRALP:
Originally Posted By reyno2ac:
CMMG bargain bin rifles are inexpensive.


This. Also from what I've read they are pretty good to go.

Also don't be a moron, don't shoot trees. Buy a 2x4 and build a target stand. Geez...


word.

Also be aware of whats behind your shooting... shooting trees doesn't sound like you have a proper backstop.

What did that tree ever do to you?
Link Posted: 9/22/2010 2:33:37 PM EST
DPMS Sportical
Link Posted: 9/22/2010 2:41:04 PM EST
CMMG bargain bin rifles.
Link Posted: 9/22/2010 2:43:36 PM EST
Zombie Trees?

Anyway check out CDNN S&W M&P15 w/ mail in rebate. $599 IIRC

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Link Posted: 9/22/2010 2:52:20 PM EST
Originally Posted By tominjax:

Originally Posted By jcrowl:
check out the Equipment Exchange, you might be able to find a good deal on a used rifle.




DO NOT DO THIS... Most used rifles, accessories / other parts, increase in price in the E.E. Despite being used.
Link Posted: 9/22/2010 3:06:44 PM EST
Originally Posted By diaz_aa:
Originally Posted By tominjax:

Originally Posted By jcrowl:
check out the Equipment Exchange, you might be able to find a good deal on a used rifle.




DO NOT DO THIS... Most used rifles, accessories / other parts, increase in price in the E.E. Despite being used.


I don't understand this. Most if not all high priced items in the EE don't get sold and the seller winds up reducing the price or accepting a lower offer. The EE doesn't set market value IMO. At least not when dealing with dealers.

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Link Posted: 9/22/2010 3:10:33 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/22/2010 3:13:12 PM EST
Originally Posted By TJRoush:
DPMS Sportical


685.00 at cabel's with my cabel's card...
Link Posted: 9/22/2010 3:15:56 PM EST
Originally Posted By badazzar15:
I would not recommend buying the cheapest AR15 you can find. You get what you pay for..


Yep.....you can get an $800 top tier AR from this fellow....

Go to Spikes Tactical and shop no more.

Also, I agree, leave the trees alone....we need them and we don't need any help screwing up the world any more than it already is......

....and no I'm not a hippy.
Link Posted: 9/22/2010 3:51:48 PM EST
I just bought a flat top $699 (rebate is over but these keep popping up in different places and before someone posts CDNN is selling for $599 they were out in late Aug).

Bought S&W MP 15 Opticat Ready (Flat Top) at Gander Mountain in Sherman, TX on Thurs 9/9. Was $699 after rebate http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=118&t=509050

Monster 3 page post w/ links for sling and iron sight difficulties.

Also, I have a Cost/Benefit Analysis on link above.

$723 after rebate here: http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/manufacturers_id/31/products_id/53496

I know you can build but if you cant find a flat top these might be an option.
Link Posted: 9/22/2010 4:17:31 PM EST
Originally Posted By badazzar15:
I would not recommend buying the cheapest AR15 you can find. You get what you pay for..


^^^You should consider buying one from this man.
Link Posted: 9/22/2010 4:33:33 PM EST
why spend $600 for an AR of questionable quality... save an additional $200 and order yourself a spikes!
Link Posted: 9/22/2010 4:59:14 PM EST
Originally Posted By badazzar15:
I would not recommend buying the cheapest AR15 you can find. You get what you pay for..


I agree with Tom. If you can't afford a quality rifle now, just wait and save up until you can. It's just my opinion, but it does not make sense to spend $500 or $600 on a low quality rifle, when you can add $200 or $300 to it and get a good one. $500 is a lot to spend on something that may equate to crap.
Link Posted: 9/22/2010 5:10:00 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/22/2010 5:11:32 PM EST by U5514]
Man, don't shoot at trees. Trees help keep this earth clean as welll as protecting the ozone layers to keep us from exposing to harmful UV rays from the Sun.
Link Posted: 9/22/2010 5:37:39 PM EST
Originally Posted By JW1069:
Originally Posted By badazzar15:
I would not recommend buying the cheapest AR15 you can find. You get what you pay for..


^^^You should consider buying one from this man.


This. Not a better deal out there for the money.

+ another to not shooting trees
Link Posted: 9/22/2010 5:45:17 PM EST
Originally Posted By Jeep297:
Originally Posted By JW1069:
Originally Posted By badazzar15:
I would not recommend buying the cheapest AR15 you can find. You get what you pay for..


^^^You should consider buying one from this man.


This. Not a better deal out there for the money.

+ another to not shooting trees


While I'm all for not shooting tress, we do shoot paper and carboard targets most of the time don't we
Link Posted: 9/22/2010 5:50:45 PM EST
Originally Posted By jBoy723:
Originally Posted By Jeep297:
Originally Posted By JW1069:
Originally Posted By badazzar15:
I would not recommend buying the cheapest AR15 you can find. You get what you pay for..


^^^You should consider buying one from this man.


This. Not a better deal out there for the money.

+ another to not shooting trees


While I'm all for not shooting tress, we do shoot paper and carboard targets most of the time don't we


Pssh.. speak for yourself, I only shoot cool things, like pop cans, bowling pins, fire extinguishers, nuclear warheads, bald eagles, grizzly bears, viet cong, and alpacas.

Link Posted: 9/22/2010 5:51:09 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/22/2010 5:54:21 PM EST by ArmaliteM15A2b]
u can buy a used Colt for $800. if you want to buy cheap go used.
dont shoot trees unless there dead already and always know your back stop. Kids, deer, DEC agents can turn up anywere.
Link Posted: 9/22/2010 6:24:51 PM EST
Originally Posted By U5514:
Man, don't shoot at trees. Trees help keep this earth clean as welll as protecting the ozone layers to keep us from exposing to harmful UV rays from the Sun.


Who let the hippie in...

'Ever fall out of one or Run into one with your car..?

No?
We'll if you did you'd hate them there trees
Link Posted: 9/22/2010 6:25:32 PM EST
Originally Posted By jcrowl:
Wasn't there just a thread on the subject of CMMG bargain basement rifles?


I made one. Had my buffer tube screwed in a little too far but otherwise great rifle for shooting random things. I'd recommend the bargain bin rifles. Either that or a Del-Ton kit.
Link Posted: 9/22/2010 6:39:40 PM EST
Originally Posted By badazzar15:
I would not recommend buying the cheapest AR15 you can find. You get what you pay for..


bingo
Link Posted: 9/22/2010 7:31:16 PM EST
I bought a Smith and Wesson M&P for about $950 last year and wish I would have bought a BCM 14.5 Middy upper and built a lower. But live and learn.
Link Posted: 9/22/2010 7:59:01 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/22/2010 8:00:09 PM EST by U5514]
Originally Posted By Girlieman:
Originally Posted By U5514:
Man, don't shoot at trees. Trees help keep this earth clean as welll as protecting the ozone layers to keep us from exposing to harmful UV rays from the Sun.


Who let the hippie in...

'Ever fall out of one or Run into one with your car..?

No?
We'll if you did you'd hate them there trees


Who let the illegal from north of the border in.....?
You know them illegals can't drive worth a darn and they keep running into them trees.........don't bother hiring them illegals to do landscapping either because they will fall off of of them trees too.....
Link Posted: 9/23/2010 8:29:20 AM EST
Originally Posted By MadnessReigns:
http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?item=F1SASL&groupid=53

+

http://www.del-ton.com/Rifle_Kit_p/rkt104.htm

This would be my vote for going as cheap as you could


This is a pretty tough combo to beat. I got a SAA stripped lower from AIM (along with the LPK). I'm using a BCM 20" complete upper with it- but from everything I've read the Del Ton kit should be more then adequate for a casual plinker. All told you're still well under $600 including s/h & transfer fee.
Link Posted: 9/23/2010 8:49:09 AM EST
if you shop around you can find something anywhere from 550 - 700. you might want to check your state's local gun websites and try for something local to save on FFL fees.
Link Posted: 9/23/2010 10:08:32 AM EST
Originally Posted By Porcine83:
Originally Posted By MadnessReigns:
http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?item=F1SASL&groupid=53

+

http://www.del-ton.com/Rifle_Kit_p/rkt104.htm

This would be my vote for going as cheap as you could


This is a pretty tough combo to beat. I got a SAA stripped lower from AIM (along with the LPK). I'm using a BCM 20" complete upper with it- but from everything I've read the Del Ton kit should be more then adequate for a casual plinker. All told you're still well under $600 including s/h & transfer fee.


Another +1. This will probably be my next rifle, with the lightweight upper.
Link Posted: 9/23/2010 10:39:59 AM EST
Originally Posted By reyno2ac:
CMMG bargain bin rifles are inexpensive.


+1 When they're at the gun shows, I think they get about $550.
Link Posted: 9/23/2010 10:49:44 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/23/2010 10:56:26 AM EST by Fields_Overseer]
Del-ton kit($465), ad cheap lower stripped. (just say 100 after ffl fee). Thats $565 and you just need either a rear sight or a red dot. Del-tons are actually pretty good too. even have tested bolts now. You dont get chrome lined, your getting cheaper barrel steel, ect tho.

edit, wtf with the hippies, shooting a tree wont kill it unless you cut it in half or go all the way around it(strip the bark off in a ring). Anyway, where do you think your paper targets come from? The berm at your range is grass (or dirt and grass was killed to make it) so you should shoot there cause your killing grass

but seriously.,.. at the hippies.
Link Posted: 9/23/2010 10:50:14 AM EST
- original poster says 'only criteria is a flat upper'

- Everyone has posted suggestions of what to buy but have any of the suggestions been flat uppers (except for mine)?

- If I missed a flat upper post can someone point it out to me?
Link Posted: 9/23/2010 10:56:54 AM EST
Originally Posted By 597newbie:
- original poster says 'only criteria is a flat upper'

- Everyone has posted suggestions of what to buy but have any of the suggestions been flat uppers (except for mine)?

- If I missed a flat upper post can someone point it out to me?


most if not all.
Link Posted: 9/23/2010 11:01:09 AM EST
Originally Posted By Muttt:
If you want the cheapest, get yourself a Blackthorn ...... LOL


Believe it or not, Vulcan Blackthorne isn't cheap (pricewise that is):
http://www.vulcanarmament.com/cgistore/store.cgi?page=/new/product.html&setup=1&ida=200&idp=112&his=0|112&cart_id=1416015.8952
Link Posted: 9/23/2010 11:01:31 AM EST
Copper kills trees. I'm not one of them ganGREENies, but don't kill stuff you can't eat.
Link Posted: 9/23/2010 11:16:59 AM EST
Originally Posted By Fields_Overseer:
Originally Posted By 597newbie:
- original poster says 'only criteria is a flat upper'

- Everyone has posted suggestions of what to buy but have any of the suggestions been flat uppers (except for mine)?

- If I missed a flat upper post can someone point it out to me?


most if not all.


the spikes has a front sight base on their website and the delton link showed a front sight base.

which one of the links shows a flat top? (I am just curious on how you find the flat tops).
Link Posted: 9/23/2010 11:57:27 AM EST

Originally Posted By 597newbie:
Originally Posted By Fields_Overseer:
Originally Posted By 597newbie:
- original poster says 'only criteria is a flat upper'

- Everyone has posted suggestions of what to buy but have any of the suggestions been flat uppers (except for mine)?

- If I missed a flat upper post can someone point it out to me?


most if not all.


the spikes has a front sight base on their website and the delton link showed a front sight base.

which one of the links shows a flat top? (I am just curious on how you find the flat tops).



You want a gas block instead of a front sight. Flat upper refers to..well...the upper
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