338jdj Member Joined: Apr 2008  TN, USA Posts: 33 Feedback: 0% (0)	Posted: 10/8/2008 12:25:12 PM THE IMAGE ABOVE IS A PAID ADVERTISEMENT Ok I'm sure this will open up a can of worms. I'm gonna buy one or the other depending on the input here. I intend on using it for hunting and just shootin. no competition. don't get me wrong I like shootin tight groups (sub moa).
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Posted: 10/8/2008 12:35:36 PM [Last Edit: 10/8/2008 12:36:40 PM by hybridatsun350] Well, to start, the Creedmore is a short action cartridge. I don't know whether you want to build an AR-10 type rifle or not, but the Creedmore will obviously outperform the Grendel in every way. The advantage of the Grendel is excellent long range ability out of an AR-15 platform. The first question that needs to be answered is which platform you want to use for your rifle.

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338jdj Member Joined: Apr 2008  TN, USA Posts: 34 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post	Posted: 10/8/2008 2:36:49 PM maybe I should answer like this. I have a RRA Varmit A4 now. I would like to have a 6.5 also. I could save money by just buying a complete 6.5 Grendel upper and just installing on my lower. But is the Creedmoor that much better to justify me spending the money for a whole new gun? The AR10 frame doesn't bother me...maybe that will help.
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artsohc Member Joined: Jul 2008  USA Posts: 262 Feedback: 100% (32) Link To This Post	Posted: 10/8/2008 2:45:23 PM What are you using the gun for? That's probably the first question you should answer else I'll give you the ARF.COM typical answer... Buy both!
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338jdj Member Joined: Apr 2008  TN, USA Posts: 37 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post	Posted: 10/8/2008 2:53:48 PM [Last Edit: 10/13/2008 4:48:16 PM by 338jdj] deer, hogs, lopes, stray dogs around the house...you know the usual stuff
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SpacemanSpiff Member Joined: Jan 2002  AR, USA Posts: 2378 Feedback: 100% (18) Link To This Post	Posted: 10/8/2008 3:43:28 PM Originally Posted By 338jdj: deer, hogs, lopes, dogs around the house...you know the usual stuff grendel is fine for that. actually the 5.56 is fine for that...
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B44T Member Team Member Joined: Jun 2006  WA, USA Posts: 708 Feedback: 100% (14) Link To This Post	Posted: 10/8/2008 3:47:34 PM Slap a grendle upper on it and your GTG for any big game you would take with a 6.5 X 55 Swede.
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338jdj Member Joined: Apr 2008  TN, USA Posts: 39 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post	Posted: 10/13/2008 4:52:07 PM [Last Edit: 10/13/2008 5:34:07 PM by 338jdj] thanks guys. I have been doing alot more reading up and I think the grendel will do me just fine. I just liked the looks and data of that creedmoor. besides that saves me enuff money that I can also buy a 458 socom upper also...lol...that way I'll have 3 guns...lol
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artsohc Member Joined: Jul 2008  USA Posts: 279 Feedback: 100% (32) Link To This Post	Posted: 10/13/2008 4:57:18 PM Originally Posted By 338jdj: thanks guys. I have been doing alot more reading up and I think the grendel will do me just fine. I just liked the looks and data of that creedmoor. besides that save me enuff money that I can also buy a 458 socom upper also...lol...that way I'll have 3 guns...lol Now you're talking BRD
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Stonerriflefan44 feed cheeseburgers & ammo :) Team Member Joined: Feb 2006  NV, USA Posts: 4220 Feedback: 100% (14) Link To This Post	Posted: 10/13/2008 4:58:39 PM 6.5 MPC is a nice choice as well.
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Posted: 10/19/2008 4:56:22 AM [Last Edit: 10/19/2008 4:58:39 AM by MayorOfCampAtterbury] Originally Posted By 338jdj: thanks guys. I have been doing alot more reading up and I think the grendel will do me just fine. I just liked the looks and data of that creedmoor. besides that saves me enuff money that I can also buy a 458 socom upper also...lol...that way I'll have 3 guns...lol I wanna hear about your Grendel experience. I have my .458 SOCOM: It ROCKS! Kicks like a mule, but I have the std A2 buttstock (cheesegrater buttplate). Grendel is on my "to-buy" list after this deployment. Note to "artsohc": I'll probably buy both I just haven't decided what platform I'm going to put the bigger 6.5 in.

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Baldmonk Member Joined: Apr 2006  VA, USA Posts: 1253 Feedback: 100% (1) Link To This Post	Posted: 10/19/2008 7:26:56 AM [Last Edit: 10/19/2008 7:29:17 AM by Baldmonk] .260 Remington. Almost identical ballastics as the 6.5 creedmoor without all the custom brass expense. Im on the lookout for a .308 Armalite lower to make this my next project.
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MayorOfCampAtterbury Member Team Member Joined: Jul 2002  IRQ Posts: 250 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post	Posted: 10/19/2008 3:47:46 PM Originally Posted By Baldmonk: .260 Remington. Almost identical ballastics as the 6.5 creedmoor without all the custom brass expense. What are you using for .260 brass? Most of the factory stuff (Rem at least) is marginal for reloads, according to everything I've read.
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Baldmonk Member Joined: Apr 2006  VA, USA Posts: 1261 Feedback: 100% (1) Link To This Post	Posted: 10/19/2008 4:57:48 PM Originally Posted By MayorOfCampAtterbury: Originally Posted By Baldmonk: .260 Remington. Almost identical ballastics as the 6.5 creedmoor without all the custom brass expense. What are you using for .260 brass? Most of the factory stuff (Rem at least) is marginal for reloads, according to everything I've read. Hornady.
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platypusREX Member Joined: Aug 2007  TX, USA Posts: 1085 Feedback: 100% (2) Link To This Post	Posted: 10/19/2008 5:41:33 PM Figure out if you want to use the AR10 platform or the AR15.
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Posted: 10/20/2008 4:32:21 PM Originally Posted By Baldmonk: Originally Posted By MayorOfCampAtterbury: Originally Posted By Baldmonk: .260 Remington. Almost identical ballastics as the 6.5 creedmoor without all the custom brass expense. What are you using for .260 brass? Most of the factory stuff (Rem at least) is marginal for reloads, according to everything I've read. Hornady. What cartridge base .308 or .243?

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Posted: 10/20/2008 4:41:39 PM Originally Posted By 338jdj: Ok I'm sure this will open up a can of worms. I'm gonna buy one or the other depending on the input here. I intend on using it for hunting and just shootin. no competition. don't get me wrong I like shootin tight groups (sub moa). I posted this in another thread ... So, thinking about producing a non-5.56 caliber, the 6.5 Grendel, I thought it best to go do some testing ... On the flight up to Greeley, me and the Navion passed by a town called Munday, Texas. So, I flew by Munday ... on a Thursday. Set a box out at exactly 325 yd. to confirm the 325 yd. dot zero ... shot, checked (knowing I left it 2 moa high) , then came down that 2 moa and shot twice more ... ummm, convincing ... and not bad shootin' ... After shooting last two shots, I mindlessly took the scope off to show the ranch owner. I then put it back on and didn't think another thing about it. I later heard he was a little concerned I didn't shoot some more to re-zero. Elk country ... I can see the shot in this next pic, it was 405 yards across this draw ... wind howling. Using a BOG tripod, rock-solid, I held 20" best-guess into the wind and let fly. This is how I found him just 10 yds from the point-of-impact. My spotter said he whirled to the left and was instantly out-ot-sight. We took off all the orange stuff for some pics ... Starting in on field dressing ... Got him down the hill just at dark ... The flight back. Processed meat was under this pile tied-together with the hidden seat belts. I was flying alone, so held the camera out for a self-portrait ... If he'd been any bigger, then I would have had fit-issues getting him in the Navion. Kansas is soaking wet ... corn is still green ... Thought it best to verify the Garmin's accuracy, so I dropped down to check a road sign on a long stretch of deserted Texas road ... no cars seen for miles on that one ... The Navion is back in the hangar ... the meat's in the freezer ... So, this is not the end-all-be-all of tests, but those 120 grain Triple Shox did shoot clean through an elk side-to-side, standing 405 yards across the way. Don't know how much damage it did, but it sure did kill hell out of him. He was guartering slightly away, and I missed my wind guess by ~5", so I hit him just behind the diaghram, it then passed through the diaghram halfway through him, zipped through his left lung and exited behind his left foreleg. YMMV. A nice side benefit of hunting, all meat is hormone-free and organic, just the way my honey likes it. M. LaRue

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