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Originally Posted By BePhreed:
Does look hefty but I can see why for an open bolt design. How many of the parts did you have to alter or get manufactured vs using original parts? I knew an old importer who had some original upper receivers and other parts for them and was always tempted to pick some up. View Quote Most of the parts that are legal to use for a civilian, semi-automatic build are original... which still leaves it more than 50% repro, re-purposed, or modern parts. The "bigguns" are the upper, gas block, barrel, and gas tube, which are all original - that being said, there was a gasket piece that was missing between the gas tube and barrel that John Brace (braceman) fabricated for me, and he also took measurements off the gas block, and I know he's made at least one reproduction piece for another member who wanted to build a clone. The BCG is an older assembly out of a Colt Model 04 (R604/M16) with no forward assist notches - so from the outside looking into the ejection port, it looks correct, though the original M231's bolt carrier is an open bolt and striker design that could not be used, though you can occasionally get them for sale. Handuards are reproductions as well - both SAW and Auto Weapons have them for sale - for the economical price of $450. The repros were $50 and required some Dremeling before they would fit gas tube. The receiver extension/recoil spring/receiver end plate assembly was a semi-custom creation of jhud, though I don't think he makes them anymore - and the selector-plate was a NOS original, and I Dremeled on the NDS-A1 lower to get it to fit. Colt Retro no-tick selector and modern LPK to round it out. Really the only parts that I'm missing that I could use would be the receiver extension and buffer system, which is practically impossible to find, and probably would need some major modification to function in a semi-auto closed bolt form, and the handguards, which, if I ever see them available at a not insane price, I will snatch up - but for now, the repros work. Not a simple project - and perhaps not a terribly useful one - but it's a fun little piece and unique "clone." I don't fire it much - but when I do, it's a lot of fun - being semi-auto and heavy as hell, it's real stable when fired, even offhand without shouldering (I like short stocks, too - but the receiver extension is really short). ~Augee |
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Very cool. Thanks for the write up. Almost worth getting a firing port for at this point.
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Originally Posted By Alaska511:
IIRC correctly, the ROF was insane! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Alaska511:
Originally Posted By hipower90:
Awesome. I remember when those dedicated port firing M16s came out. Yes, I'm old and chit. IIRC correctly, the ROF was insane! Yes, I think it was up around 1200rpm or there abouts. ETA:If I remember right, it was because the diff buffer assembly. |
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View Quote It handles awesomely does it not? I caught mine fapping in the shower... (this was pre-barrel chop) Repost (to show what it looks like now): |
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Originally Posted By PFran42:
Awwwww yeeeeah... Welcome to the club! It handles awesomely does it not? I caught mine fapping in the shower... (this was pre-barrel chop) https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-obOhZxFZJZI/U2EpEa22TQI/AAAAAAAA5d0/Yi4KYMssTmU/w665-h899-no/IMG_20140426_085247.jpg Repost (to show what it looks like now): https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-HM01hXy9eTM/VDcVNV3zd5I/AAAAAAABK7o/PpKy-4c7JD0/w1478-h985-no/DSC_0618.JPG View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By PFran42:
It handles awesomely does it not? I caught mine fapping in the shower... (this was pre-barrel chop) https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-obOhZxFZJZI/U2EpEa22TQI/AAAAAAAA5d0/Yi4KYMssTmU/w665-h899-no/IMG_20140426_085247.jpg Repost (to show what it looks like now): https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-HM01hXy9eTM/VDcVNV3zd5I/AAAAAAABK7o/PpKy-4c7JD0/w1478-h985-no/DSC_0618.JPG Haha Ive been around here for a while! I just swapped the delta ring for the slip ring though. And hell yea, its my favorite rifle PERIOD. I love shooting the CQBR or mk18 with the can, then picking this up...its like a damn feather, and the balance is perfect. Yours is badass! mine needs some dressings! lol |
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Originally Posted By bending_rodriguez: Haha Ive been around here for a while! I just swapped the delta ring for the slip ring though. And hell yea, its my favorite rifle PERIOD. I love shooting the CQBR or mk18 with the can, then picking this up...its like a damn feather, and the balance is perfect. Yours is badass! mine needs some dressings! lol View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By bending_rodriguez: Originally Posted By PFran42: It handles awesomely does it not? I caught mine fapping in the shower... (this was pre-barrel chop) https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-obOhZxFZJZI/U2EpEa22TQI/AAAAAAAA5d0/Yi4KYMssTmU/w665-h899-no/IMG_20140426_085247.jpg Repost (to show what it looks like now): https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-HM01hXy9eTM/VDcVNV3zd5I/AAAAAAABK7o/PpKy-4c7JD0/w1478-h985-no/DSC_0618.JPG Haha Ive been around here for a while! I just swapped the delta ring for the slip ring though. And hell yea, its my favorite rifle PERIOD. I love shooting the CQBR or mk18 with the can, then picking this up...its like a damn feather, and the balance is perfect. Yours is badass! mine needs some dressings! lol You have to have the flat slip ring installed before you get official recognition... And I agree, it's my favorite gun as well.
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Originally Posted By PFran42:
You have to have the flat slip ring installed before you get official recognition... And I agree, it's my favorite gun as well. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By PFran42:
Originally Posted By bending_rodriguez:
Originally Posted By PFran42:
It handles awesomely does it not? I caught mine fapping in the shower... (this was pre-barrel chop) https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-obOhZxFZJZI/U2EpEa22TQI/AAAAAAAA5d0/Yi4KYMssTmU/w665-h899-no/IMG_20140426_085247.jpg Repost (to show what it looks like now): https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-HM01hXy9eTM/VDcVNV3zd5I/AAAAAAABK7o/PpKy-4c7JD0/w1478-h985-no/DSC_0618.JPG Haha Ive been around here for a while! I just swapped the delta ring for the slip ring though. And hell yea, its my favorite rifle PERIOD. I love shooting the CQBR or mk18 with the can, then picking this up...its like a damn feather, and the balance is perfect. Yours is badass! mine needs some dressings! lol You have to have the flat slip ring installed before you get official recognition... And I agree, it's my favorite gun as well. Nowwww you tell me haha |
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“Most people are other people. Their thoughts are someone else's opinions, their lives a mimicry, their passions a quotation.”
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Originally Posted By Riddle:
Recently swapped an a1 upper onto my kiss rifle. http://i62.tinypic.com/1slc06.jpg View Quote Very clean. Nicely executed. |
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Originally Posted By 86HMMWV: I finished my first carbine. I'm not a big carbine fan, but there are exceptions, and it was time for me to own a lightweight AR. Though it uses an A4 upper receiver, it's a pseudo IDF clone. It wears a lightweight profile 1/7 twist barrel from a Colt 6520, an A1 flash suppressor, a slip ring, an A1 port door, an A1 pistol grip, FAB Defense six hole "skinny" handguards (that I found out about in this thread and absolutely love!) and an Essential Arms aluminum mil-spec CAR stock on one of their two-position tubes (love this part, too!), all on an Aero Precision lower receiver (I've wanted to build on one of these for years now). Needless to say, it's a light little thing. It's strange setup, but I did the complete build and used exactly what I wanted. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By bradpierson26:
Completed two important steps this week. Received my Nodak XM16e1 lower engraved with my SBR info and got the colt barrel back from getting chopped to 12.5" I held off on getting it reprofiled to .625" which turned out to be a poor choice. I will definitely send it back out to get reprolfiled. I've got the .625 FSB in the pic as well. http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll241/ppcseniortrip/IMG_9962.jpg View Quote Right on! That one is going to be great |
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Originally Posted By Munzy:
I think this qualifies as a KISS for the time being. http://i.imgur.com/CSOhFnu.jpg?1 View Quote Very cool. |
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Originally Posted By bradpierson26:
Completed two important steps this week. Received my Nodak XM16e1 lower engraved with my SBR info and got the colt barrel back from getting chopped to 12.5" I held off on getting it reprofiled to .625" which turned out to be a poor choice. I will definitely send it back out to get reprolfiled. I've got the .625 FSB in the pic as well. http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll241/ppcseniortrip/IMG_9962.jpg View Quote I dig it |
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Originally Posted By bradpierson26: Completed two important steps this week. Received my Nodak XM16e1 lower engraved with my SBR info and got the colt barrel back from getting chopped to 12.5" I held off on getting it reprofiled to .625" which turned out to be a poor choice. I will definitely send it back out to get reprolfiled. I've got the .625 FSB in the pic as well. http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll241/ppcseniortrip/IMG_9962.jpg View Quote Looking forward to this one!
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Originally Posted By Augee:
All you amateurs with your complicated rifles trying to pass them off as "KISS." Psh. KISS: http://i1239.photobucket.com/albums/ff502/augeekim/9800337E-2301-43A0-9682-CE66522C9671_zpsebikooip.jpg http://i1239.photobucket.com/albums/ff502/augeekim/AE8CA758-55D2-47F2-AC13-4194AE24E96A_zps1bzcif0r.jpg http://i1239.photobucket.com/albums/ff502/augeekim/92192867-607C-4CBC-B096-B9906652785B_zps4u8oqtce.jpg http://i1239.photobucket.com/albums/ff502/augeekim/5DBA7BAE-1316-4382-AE75-C3423A4B7043_zpslxcukueb.jpg Don't you realize that your iron sights have... like 87 moving parts or something and could fail at any minute? ~Augee View Quote Dude! That's REALLY cool. Only seen a PFW in a book. Didn't think anybody was lucky enough to have one. Do you have a port below the peephole on your front door? |
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Originally Posted By Greenleaf:
Dude! That's REALLY cool. Only seen a PFW in a book. Didn't think anybody was lucky enough to have one. Do you have a port below the peephole on your front door? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Greenleaf:
Originally Posted By Augee:
All you amateurs with your complicated rifles trying to pass them off as "KISS." Psh. KISS: http://i1239.photobucket.com/albums/ff502/augeekim/9800337E-2301-43A0-9682-CE66522C9671_zpsebikooip.jpg http://i1239.photobucket.com/albums/ff502/augeekim/AE8CA758-55D2-47F2-AC13-4194AE24E96A_zps1bzcif0r.jpg http://i1239.photobucket.com/albums/ff502/augeekim/92192867-607C-4CBC-B096-B9906652785B_zps4u8oqtce.jpg http://i1239.photobucket.com/albums/ff502/augeekim/5DBA7BAE-1316-4382-AE75-C3423A4B7043_zpslxcukueb.jpg Don't you realize that your iron sights have... like 87 moving parts or something and could fail at any minute? ~Augee Dude! That's REALLY cool. Only seen a PFW in a book. Didn't think anybody was lucky enough to have one. Do you have a port below the peephole on your front door? You mean a mail slot? |
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Tennessee Colonel
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Originally Posted By Finslayer83:
<a href="https://flic.kr/p/r5XuJR" target="_blank">https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7317/16465013021_06be4d69c0_b.jpg</a>DSC_5486 by The Dorsal Fin, on Flickr View Quote That thing is screaming for an LWRC micro stock. |
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Perfection is achieved, not when there is nothing more to add, but when there is nothing left to take away.
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40mm gas.
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Originally Posted By Finslayer83:
<a href="https://flic.kr/p/r5XuJR" target="_blank">https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7317/16465013021_06be4d69c0_b.jpg</a>DSC_5486 by The Dorsal Fin, on Flickr View Quote I just felt a rustle in ma jimmies looking at this. |
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Originally Posted By Augee:
Yup, the M231 Port Firing Weapon - Open bolt M16 designed to be fired from inside of a Bradley, aimed using M196 tracers and a periscope. Selections for further reading: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_123/459672_M231_Firing_Port_Weapon_Review________56K_MASSACRE______________.htmlhttp://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_123/459672_M231_Firing_Port_Weapon_Review________56K_MASSACRE______________.html http://209.251.48.101/forums/t_3_123/575121_.html http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=3&f=123&t=623069 http://209.251.48.101/forums/t_3_118/610478__ARCHIVED_THREAD____Need_Help_Understand_Old_Colt_M231_Port_Weapon.html&page=1 ~Augee View Quote By the time you get it pointed in the right direction your mag would be empty. Did they just use 30 rounders on these? |
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Originally Posted By AASG:
By the time you get it pointed in the right direction your mag would be empty. Did they just use 30 rounders on these? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By AASG:
Originally Posted By Augee:
Yup, the M231 Port Firing Weapon - Open bolt M16 designed to be fired from inside of a Bradley, aimed using M196 tracers and a periscope. Selections for further reading: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_123/459672_M231_Firing_Port_Weapon_Review________56K_MASSACRE______________.htmlhttp://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_123/459672_M231_Firing_Port_Weapon_Review________56K_MASSACRE______________.html http://209.251.48.101/forums/t_3_123/575121_.html http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=3&f=123&t=623069 http://209.251.48.101/forums/t_3_118/610478__ARCHIVED_THREAD____Need_Help_Understand_Old_Colt_M231_Port_Weapon.html&page=1 ~Augee By the time you get it pointed in the right direction your mag would be empty. Did they just use 30 rounders on these? I mean... they could use any magazine you could fit in them. But yes, primarily intended to be used with thirty-round magazines. Yes, you were supposed to "walk" your rounds in - but the intent of the port-firing weapon was to repulse human wave attacks by Soviet hordes that were probably moments away from crawling all over your vehicle. Most of the firing ports didn't last very long, with the Army deciding that more armor was probably more useful for protecting the vehicle than having port-firing weapons. Around 2006-7 they briefly considered resurrecting the M231 in a remotely operated mount and with an MGW 90 round magazine as part of the M1A1 Abrams "TUSK" (Tank Urban Survival Kit) as the "Tank Commander's Light Automatic Weapon," but was ultimately dropped. ~Augee |
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Perfection is achieved, not when there is nothing more to add, but when there is nothing left to take away.
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Originally Posted By DirtDivision:
I just felt a rustle in ma jimmies looking at this. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By DirtDivision:
Originally Posted By Finslayer83:
<a href="https://flic.kr/p/r5XuJR" target="_blank">https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7317/16465013021_06be4d69c0_b.jpg</a>DSC_5486 by The Dorsal Fin, on Flickr I just felt a rustle in ma jimmies looking at this. Wanna hold it |
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Originally Posted By Finslayer83:
Wanna hold it View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Finslayer83:
Originally Posted By DirtDivision:
Originally Posted By Finslayer83:
<a href="https://flic.kr/p/r5XuJR" target="_blank">https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7317/16465013021_06be4d69c0_b.jpg</a>DSC_5486 by The Dorsal Fin, on Flickr I just felt a rustle in ma jimmies looking at this. Wanna hold it His jimmy? |
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Okay, where is everyone finding these A1 uppers?
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Got my new LM A1 upper at a gun show.
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Originally Posted By Dissident:
Okay, where is everyone finding these A1 uppers? View Quote pk firearms has one also. What I'm wondering is where y'all are finding 14.5 inch lightweight or pencil carbine barrels. I don't really need a IDF clone, but by golly everytime i visit this thread I want one. |
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Don't be so open-minded that your brains fall out.
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Originally Posted By Finslayer83:
<a href="https://flic.kr/p/r5XuJR" target="_blank">https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7317/16465013021_06be4d69c0_b.jpg</a>DSC_5486 by The Dorsal Fin, on Flickr View Quote Nice rifle. Do you know if that IWC TMC light mount will work on mid length A2 handguards? |
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Originally Posted By p226guy: Nice rifle. Do you know if that IWC TMC light mount will work on mid length A2 handguards? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By p226guy: Originally Posted By Finslayer83: <a href="https://flic.kr/p/r5XuJR" target="_blank">https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7317/16465013021_06be4d69c0_b.jpg</a>DSC_5486 by The Dorsal Fin, on Flickr Nice rifle. Do you know if that IWC TMC light mount will work on mid length A2 handguards? Yes it will. |
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