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Posted: 9/12/2015 4:01:27 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/12/2015 5:16:45 PM EDT
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Hey, another SPR-E mount. They seem to be kind of rare... I have one too. Great recce build. Very nice.
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Posted: 9/12/2015 5:30:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JJREA:
Hey, another SPR-E mount. They seem to be kind of rare... I have one too. Great recce build. Very nice. I was really torn between the SPR-E and the LT-104. Really glad I got the extended version. |
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OK, USA
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Posted: 9/13/2015 9:19:20 AM EDT
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Saw this on LAV fb page: http://soldiersystems.net/2015/09/12/gunfighter-moment-daryl-holland-10/
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Posted: 9/13/2015 9:33:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By blkrmycs: Saw this on LAV fb page: http://soldiersystems.net/2015/09/12/gunfighter-moment-daryl-holland-10/  |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 9/13/2015 9:35:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By blkrmycs: Saw this on LAV fb page: http://soldiersystems.net/2015/09/12/gunfighter-moment-daryl-holland-10/ And suddenly, we need a clone thread. U are all gonna need M4's with SR25 tubes and KAC cans with old ass scopes tho.  |
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Posted: 9/13/2015 9:45:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HaveBlue83: And suddenly, we need a clone thread. U are all gonna need M4's with SR25 tubes and KAC cans with old ass scopes tho. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HaveBlue83: Originally Posted By blkrmycs: Saw this on LAV fb page: http://soldiersystems.net/2015/09/12/gunfighter-moment-daryl-holland-10/ And suddenly, we need a clone thread. U are all gonna need M4's with SR25 tubes and KAC cans with old ass scopes tho. |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 9/13/2015 9:51:45 AM EDT
[Last Edit: HaveBlue83]
[#8]
The rifle shown in this picture had an early SR-25 carbon fiber free float tube adapted to it." -LAV
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Posted: 9/13/2015 10:21:25 AM EDT
[Last Edit: secretwheelman]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HaveBlue83: The rifle shown in this picture had an early SR-25 carbon fiber free float tube adapted to it." -LAV http://s24.postimg.org/xm6hjsrs5/SR25_MARCH.jpg Armalite:  |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 9/13/2015 10:49:25 AM EDT
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Lol and i agree. Maybe sr was in system and armalite wasnt?
Id totally use an armalite tube for a clone. I wasnt discounting your post either. Just saying what larry said. |
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Posted: 9/13/2015 12:56:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HaveBlue83: Lol and i agree. Maybe sr was in system and armalite wasnt? Id totally use an armalite tube for a clone. I wasnt discounting your post either. Just saying what larry said. I wouldn't mind knowing what they had to do to make it work with a 5.56. |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 9/13/2015 1:10:01 PM EDT
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Got a good deal on an Aero SPR mount during labor day. Has anyone had trouble with 'em? It feels like a solid mount. Is it trustworthy/reliable for hard use? |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 9/13/2015 1:36:01 PM EDT
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Cool article. Who's gonna track down a japanese Microdot scope now?
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CA, USA
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Posted: 9/13/2015 5:18:45 PM EDT
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I like my Recce so much, I'm considering selling my 308 bolt gun. It doesn't do anything this AR doesn't do at the ranges I shoot :o
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USA
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Posted: 9/13/2015 7:33:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Jax_Guns]
[#15]
That is not a fiberglass tube it is aluminum, look at the knurling on it.
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Posted: 9/13/2015 7:44:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jax_Guns:
That is not a fiberglass tube it is aluminum, look at the knurling on it. http://i1146.photobucket.com/albums/o530/jax_guns/image21_zpsaadfmooj.jpg Jesus that scope is TINY. Any idea what year this pic was taken? |
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Posted: 9/13/2015 7:45:07 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/13/2015 8:14:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Jesus that scope is TINY. Any idea what year this pic was taken? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By Jax_Guns:
That is not a fiberglass tube it is aluminum, look at the knurling on it. http://i1146.photobucket.com/albums/o530/jax_guns/image21_zpsaadfmooj.jpg Jesus that scope is TINY. Any idea what year this pic was taken? This might be the first time I've ever seen an "This AR killed this duck" pic.....    When I was scrolling back I first thought it was bobcat with the spots.... Yeah, that scope looks like one of those cheap BB gun scopes you buy for your Daisy. Which you use one time and figure you can actually see better without it on there.
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Posted: 9/13/2015 8:15:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mattyvac:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-A3t__-9Mq4E/VfYJQbrDRZI/AAAAAAAAMzo/PmWTE_WlioI/s800-Ic42/IMG_3161.JPG GREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN!!! I love it. Great build. And paint. |
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Posted: 9/13/2015 11:06:18 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/13/2015 11:49:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jax_Guns:
That is not a fiberglass tube it is aluminum, look at the knurling on it. http://i1146.photobucket.com/albums/o530/jax_guns/image21_zpsaadfmooj.jpg That looks like an Armalite FF tube, as also observed in pictures of SGM Lamb. Augee has a clone of that rifle, it is basically a fiberglass FF tube with a FSB pocket and holes for punching the FSB pins in/out for installation. I bet that is what you are seeing here, not metal. That handguard retaining ring looks like a KAC or Armalite, and neither did a plain aluminum FF tube that I know of. You might be construing tape or something for knurling. |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 9/13/2015 11:55:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JohnStoner:
Getting started: <a href="http://s277.photobucket.com/user/johndsphoto/media/MK12%20Mod%20H/20150912_215341_zpseway9vc8.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk44/johndsphoto/MK12%20Mod%20H/20150912_215341_zpseway9vc8.jpg</a> Looks good John. What optic are you going to run on yours? |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 9/14/2015 12:08:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RadOP: Looks good John. What optic are you going to run on yours? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RadOP: Originally Posted By JohnStoner: Getting started: <a href="http://s277.photobucket.com/user/johndsphoto/media/MK12%20Mod%20H/20150912_215341_zpseway9vc8.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk44/johndsphoto/MK12%20Mod%20H/20150912_215341_zpseway9vc8.jpg</a> Looks good John. What optic are you going to run on yours? I saw at least two NF 1-4x24 in the EE...one way under a grand in a mount. That would work! |
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Posted: 9/14/2015 8:42:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HaveBlue83: I saw at least two NF 1-4x24 in the EE...one way under a grand in a mount. That would work! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HaveBlue83: Originally Posted By RadOP: Originally Posted By JohnStoner: Getting started: <a href="http://s277.photobucket.com/user/johndsphoto/media/MK12%20Mod%20H/20150912_215341_zpseway9vc8.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk44/johndsphoto/MK12%20Mod%20H/20150912_215341_zpseway9vc8.jpg</a> Looks good John. What optic are you going to run on yours? I saw at least two NF 1-4x24 in the EE...one way under a grand in a mount. That would work! |
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Posted: 9/14/2015 10:28:34 AM EDT
[Last Edit: JohnStoner]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By secretwheelman:
It'll definitely work.
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By secretwheelman:
Originally Posted By HaveBlue83:
Originally Posted By RadOP:
Originally Posted By JohnStoner:
Getting started: <a href="http://s277.photobucket.com/user/johndsphoto/media/MK12%20Mod%20H/20150912_215341_zpseway9vc8.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk44/johndsphoto/MK12%20Mod%20H/20150912_215341_zpseway9vc8.jpg</a> Looks good John. What optic are you going to run on yours? I saw at least two NF 1-4x24 in the EE...one way under a grand in a mount. That would work!
If I had the funds free right now I would. Juggling too much, diapers are dolla dolla bills. I've had great luck with the Leatherwood CMR in LaRue lt104 on several builds and will probably head that direction. Swap for NF when funds line up. Still pondering the 2.5-8 leupy |
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Posted: 9/14/2015 10:44:33 AM EDT
[Last Edit: secretwheelman]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JohnStoner: If I had the funds free right now I would. Juggling too much, diapers are dolla dolla bills. I've had great luck with the Leatherwood CMR in LaRue lt104 on several builds and will probably head that direction. Swap for NF when funds line up. Still pondering the 2.5-8 leupy I own 2 myself.  |
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Posted: 9/14/2015 10:42:13 PM EDT
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I just recently got a Vortex PST 2.5-10x32. Great glass for the price, and FFP is tits.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 9/15/2015 9:12:04 AM EDT
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Last weekend range trip
Shot out to 210 yards. Ammo was Outback/Sierra Matchking 69OTM 100: 150: ...and I didnt get another cease fire before we had to leave to check the 200 but it looked about like 1.5" spread in my sporting scope. I'm putting the gun at a solid .7-.8 MOA shooter, suppressed with Larue Stealth barrel and Leupold 3-9 VXR. Makes my pants snug. |
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Posted: 9/15/2015 11:33:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GuynamedDave:
Last weekend range trip http://<a href=http://i1071.photobucket.com/albums/u510/davegibbs45/E80AF73F-FFB3-4306-B1C3-D17560CED141.jpg</a>" /> Shot out to 210 yards. Ammo was Outback/Sierra Matchking 69OTM 100: http://<a href=http://i1071.photobucket.com/albums/u510/davegibbs45/352EAB73-583A-4997-935D-AE3FEC773042.jpg</a>" /> Makes my pants snug. Cool range |
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Posted: 9/15/2015 12:15:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GuynamedDave:
Last weekend range trip http://<a href=http://i1071.photobucket.com/albums/u510/davegibbs45/E80AF73F-FFB3-4306-B1C3-D17560CED141.jpg</a>" /> Shot out to 210 yards. Ammo was Outback/Sierra Matchking 69OTM 100: http://<a href=http://i1071.photobucket.com/albums/u510/davegibbs45/352EAB73-583A-4997-935D-AE3FEC773042.jpg</a>" /> 150: http://<a href=http://i1071.photobucket.com/albums/u510/davegibbs45/387F4625-D073-4435-B78D-86071788746A.jpg</a>" /> ...and I didnt get another cease fire before we had to leave to check the 200 but it looked about like 1.5" spread in my sporting scope. I'm putting the gun at a solid .7-.8 MOA shooter, suppressed with Larue Stealth barrel and Leupold 3-9 VXR. Makes my pants snug. East TX? |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 9/15/2015 2:16:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lancecriminal86:
East TX? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lancecriminal86:
Originally Posted By GuynamedDave:
Last weekend range trip http://<a href=http://i1071.photobucket.com/albums/u510/davegibbs45/E80AF73F-FFB3-4306-B1C3-D17560CED141.jpg</a>" /> Shot out to 210 yards. Ammo was Outback/Sierra Matchking 69OTM 100: http://<a href=http://i1071.photobucket.com/albums/u510/davegibbs45/352EAB73-583A-4997-935D-AE3FEC773042.jpg</a>" /> 150: http://<a href=http://i1071.photobucket.com/albums/u510/davegibbs45/387F4625-D073-4435-B78D-86071788746A.jpg</a>" /> ...and I didnt get another cease fire before we had to leave to check the 200 but it looked about like 1.5" spread in my sporting scope. I'm putting the gun at a solid .7-.8 MOA shooter, suppressed with Larue Stealth barrel and Leupold 3-9 VXR. Makes my pants snug. East TX? Actually DFW. Near Denton. It's ok, would prefer an area to go prone but it will work |
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Posted: 9/15/2015 2:16:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GuynamedDave: Last weekend range trip http://<a href=http://i1071.photobucket.com/albums/u510/davegibbs45/E80AF73F-FFB3-4306-B1C3-D17560CED141.jpg</a>" /> I've got ~70+ sitting out back at the office. |
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Posted: 9/15/2015 3:45:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GuynamedDave:
Actually DFW. Near Denton. It's ok, would prefer an area to go prone but it will work Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GuynamedDave:
Originally Posted By lancecriminal86:
Originally Posted By GuynamedDave:
Last weekend range trip http://<a href=http://i1071.photobucket.com/albums/u510/davegibbs45/E80AF73F-FFB3-4306-B1C3-D17560CED141.jpg</a>" /> Shot out to 210 yards. Ammo was Outback/Sierra Matchking 69OTM 100: http://<a href=http://i1071.photobucket.com/albums/u510/davegibbs45/352EAB73-583A-4997-935D-AE3FEC773042.jpg</a>" /> 150: http://<a href=http://i1071.photobucket.com/albums/u510/davegibbs45/387F4625-D073-4435-B78D-86071788746A.jpg</a>" /> ...and I didnt get another cease fire before we had to leave to check the 200 but it looked about like 1.5" spread in my sporting scope. I'm putting the gun at a solid .7-.8 MOA shooter, suppressed with Larue Stealth barrel and Leupold 3-9 VXR. Makes my pants snug. East TX? Actually DFW. Near Denton. It's ok, would prefer an area to go prone but it will work I used to be down in Carrollton, I know where Denton is. Might have to plan to hit one of the Tiger Valley open shoots in Waco, I think it's like 50 bucks. |
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Posted: 9/15/2015 5:56:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GuynamedDave:
Last weekend range trip http://<a href=http://i1071.photobucket.com/albums/u510/davegibbs45/E80AF73F-FFB3-4306-B1C3-D17560CED141.jpg</a>" /> Shot out to 210 yards. Ammo was Outback/Sierra Matchking 69OTM 100: http://<a href=http://i1071.photobucket.com/albums/u510/davegibbs45/352EAB73-583A-4997-935D-AE3FEC773042.jpg</a>" /> 150: http://<a href=http://i1071.photobucket.com/albums/u510/davegibbs45/387F4625-D073-4435-B78D-86071788746A.jpg</a>" /> ...and I didnt get another cease fire before we had to leave to check the 200 but it looked about like 1.5" spread in my sporting scope. I'm putting the gun at a solid .7-.8 MOA shooter, suppressed with Larue Stealth barrel and Leupold 3-9 VXR. Makes my pants snug. With a rig like that, you can give us 5 or 10 shots and still do super well I would imagine. It's more legit. Looks like a great shooter though. What ammo were you using? |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 9/15/2015 7:41:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JJREA:
With a rig like that, you can give us 5 or 10 shots and still do super well I would imagine. It's more legit. Looks like a great shooter though. What ammo were you using? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JJREA:
Originally Posted By GuynamedDave:
Last weekend range trip http://<a href=http://i1071.photobucket.com/albums/u510/davegibbs45/E80AF73F-FFB3-4306-B1C3-D17560CED141.jpg</a>" /> Shot out to 210 yards. Ammo was Outback/Sierra Matchking 69OTM 100: http://<a href=http://i1071.photobucket.com/albums/u510/davegibbs45/352EAB73-583A-4997-935D-AE3FEC773042.jpg</a>" /> 150: http://<a href=http://i1071.photobucket.com/albums/u510/davegibbs45/387F4625-D073-4435-B78D-86071788746A.jpg</a>" /> ...and I didnt get another cease fire before we had to leave to check the 200 but it looked about like 1.5" spread in my sporting scope. I'm putting the gun at a solid .7-.8 MOA shooter, suppressed with Larue Stealth barrel and Leupold 3-9 VXR. Makes my pants snug. With a rig like that, you can give us 5 or 10 shots and still do super well I would imagine. It's more legit. Looks like a great shooter though. What ammo were you using? I know I need to start shooting 5 shot groups. I have always shot 3 shot groups as long as I can remember... More to conserve ammo before and now it's just habit. Ammo was Australian outback 69gr OTM |
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Posted: 9/15/2015 8:21:25 PM EDT
[#36]
Wow, I've never heard of that ammo.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 9/16/2015 4:32:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JJREA:
Wow, I've never heard of that ammo. It's basically Sierra Matchkings |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 9/16/2015 1:25:45 PM EDT
[#38]
This MRE been posted before?
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Posted: 9/16/2015 3:14:39 PM EDT
[#39]
I think so.
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Posted: 9/16/2015 4:11:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 10Point3:
This MRE been posted before? http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/9696/cag2003.jpg Augee posted a week or so back |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 9/16/2015 4:13:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gaston4:
Augee posted a week or so back Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gaston4:
Originally Posted By 10Point3:
This MRE been posted before? http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/9696/cag2003.jpg Augee posted a week or so back
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Posted: 9/16/2015 4:16:16 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 10Point3:
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 10Point3:
Originally Posted By gaston4:
Originally Posted By 10Point3:
This MRE been posted before? http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/9696/cag2003.jpg Augee posted a week or so back Still an awesome pic though; its what I am going to base mine off of |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 9/16/2015 11:18:29 PM EDT
[#43]
Ballistic Advantage barrel arrived this evening. GB, tube and Ops Inc brake & collar show up tomorrow.
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Posted: 9/16/2015 11:19:14 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RadOP: Ballistic Advantage barrel arrived this evening. GB, tube and Ops Inc brake & collar show up tomorrow. http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m580/rcmartin1/image.jpg1_zpsgu98c7ho.jpg |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 9/16/2015 11:27:07 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By secretwheelman:
Plans for glass? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By secretwheelman:
Originally Posted By RadOP:
Ballistic Advantage barrel arrived this evening. GB, tube and Ops Inc brake & collar show up tomorrow. http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m580/rcmartin1/image.jpg1_zpsgu98c7ho.jpg Not sure. I might borrow the bosses NF 2.5-10x24 he's got on one of our Jack carbines for fun. ultimately I'll probably end up with a leupy 2.5-8 or 3.5-10 |
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Posted: 9/16/2015 11:45:47 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RadOP: Not sure. I might borrow the bosses NF 2.5-10x24 he's got on one of our Jack carbines for fun. ultimately I'll probably end up with a leupy 2.5-8 or 3.5-10 Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RadOP: Originally Posted By secretwheelman: Originally Posted By RadOP: Ballistic Advantage barrel arrived this evening. GB, tube and Ops Inc brake & collar show up tomorrow. http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m580/rcmartin1/image.jpg1_zpsgu98c7ho.jpg Not sure. I might borrow the bosses NF 2.5-10x24 he's got on one of our Jack carbines for fun. ultimately I'll probably end up with a leupy 2.5-8 or 3.5-10 Way I figure, if I don't like it on the recce, I'm only a barrel swap away from a badass mk12 mod1. |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 9/16/2015 11:55:20 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By secretwheelman:
That's what I'm waiting on currently. Way I figure, if I don't like it on the recce, I'm only a barrel swap away from a badass mk12 mod1.
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By secretwheelman:
Originally Posted By RadOP:
Originally Posted By secretwheelman:
Originally Posted By RadOP:
Ballistic Advantage barrel arrived this evening. GB, tube and Ops Inc brake & collar show up tomorrow. http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m580/rcmartin1/image.jpg1_zpsgu98c7ho.jpg Not sure. I might borrow the bosses NF 2.5-10x24 he's got on one of our Jack carbines for fun. ultimately I'll probably end up with a leupy 2.5-8 or 3.5-10 Way I figure, if I don't like it on the recce, I'm only a barrel swap away from a badass mk12 mod1.
I'll get the rest of the rifle assembled tomorrow and mount the NF and post pictures for show. |
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Posted: 9/16/2015 11:56:54 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RadOP: I'll get the rest of the rifle assembled tomorrow and mount the NF and post pictures for show. I will be staying tuned in. |
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Posted: 9/17/2015 12:51:48 AM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jax_Guns:
Without going back and digging up the exact story - as I understand it, the Armalite fiberglass FF tube and SR25 FF tube are quite closely related, and IIRC, Armalite licensed the barrel nut design from KAC that they continue to use. Presumably, again, without digging up exact dates, this photograph would predate Armalite's FF tube production, hence why an SR25 handguard would have to be modified to achieve the result, which would effectively be that of a modified Armalite tube. Armalite also license produced the M4 FF RAS Long, again, presumably, for military use, not commercial sales; and their modern "M-15" railed handguard bears a more than superficial resemblance to the M4 FF RAS, though they're far from identical. These kinds of modifications were also done with what appear to be Bushmaster and/or Olympic aluminum FF tubes as well. With all that being said - the idea of a "sniper" or "precision" M16 carbine variant is not one of those things that you can easily "pin down" to one organization to the extent that you can say that someone "originated" it, the "need" is somewhat intuitive, and precision M16 variants have been being developed pretty much since the M16 existed, and even the first AR15 variant had an optional scope. ~Augee |
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Posted: 9/17/2015 12:55:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Augee: Without going back and digging up the exact story - as I understand it, the Armalite fiberglass FF tube and SR25 FF tube are quite closely related, and IIRC, Armalite licensed the barrel nut design from KAC that they continue to use. Presumably, again, without digging up exact dates, this photograph would predate Armalite's FF tube production, hence why an SR25 handguard would have to be modified to achieve the result, which would effectively be that of a modified Armalite tube. Armalite also license produced the M4 FF RAS Long, again, presumably, for military use, not commercial sales; and their modern "M-15" railed handguard bears a more than superficial resemblance to the M4 FF RAS, though they're far from identical. These kinds of modifications were also done with what appear to be Bushmaster and/or Olympic aluminum FF tubes as well. With all that being said - the idea of a "sniper" or "precision" M16 carbine variant is not one of those things that you can easily "pin down" to one organization to the extent that you can say that someone "originated" it, the "need" is somewhat intuitive, and precision M16 variants have been being developed pretty much since the M16 existed, and even the first AR15 variant had an optional scope. ~Augee Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Augee: Originally Posted By Jax_Guns: http://i1146.photobucket.com/albums/o530/jax_guns/image21_zpsaadfmooj.jpg Without going back and digging up the exact story - as I understand it, the Armalite fiberglass FF tube and SR25 FF tube are quite closely related, and IIRC, Armalite licensed the barrel nut design from KAC that they continue to use. Presumably, again, without digging up exact dates, this photograph would predate Armalite's FF tube production, hence why an SR25 handguard would have to be modified to achieve the result, which would effectively be that of a modified Armalite tube. Armalite also license produced the M4 FF RAS Long, again, presumably, for military use, not commercial sales; and their modern "M-15" railed handguard bears a more than superficial resemblance to the M4 FF RAS, though they're far from identical. These kinds of modifications were also done with what appear to be Bushmaster and/or Olympic aluminum FF tubes as well. With all that being said - the idea of a "sniper" or "precision" M16 carbine variant is not one of those things that you can easily "pin down" to one organization to the extent that you can say that someone "originated" it, the "need" is somewhat intuitive, and precision M16 variants have been being developed pretty much since the M16 existed, and even the first AR15 variant had an optional scope. ~Augee |
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