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cptrfwright
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Posted: 7/4/2006 6:30:53 AM EST
In the movie HEAT - Kilmer and DeNiro use Colt Commando's in the bank heist.

What is the model number?

11.5 inch bbl, A1 field sight upper with brass deflector and round forward assist.
4 position fiberlite stock, no bayonet lug.
full auto, no 3-rd burst


I have looked at the HEAT movie thread, but no info on the Colt Commando.

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Posted: 7/4/2006 6:34:13 AM EST
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model 733 I think but I'm not sure




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Posted: 7/4/2006 7:22:57 AM EST
I think the 733 is correct, but didn't it have a bayonet lug?


The ones in the movie do not.
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Posted: 7/5/2006 1:07:47 PM EST
Anyone else know if the 733 had a FSB with or without bayonet lug or did Colt use both?

Am I even close on the model number?



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Posted: 7/5/2006 1:22:19 PM EST
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My Factory Colt Commando 11.5" upper doesn't have a lug.






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Posted: 7/5/2006 1:39:52 PM EST
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Thank you so much for the reply Colt_SBR.

I was looking at the chart at biggerhammer.net and was confused by the conflicting data.
The chart on the top of the web site says bayonet lug = yes, shows a picture of a flat-top with removable carrying handle and says HBAR for barrel profile and shows no bayonoet lug.

The lower chart says M16A1 rear sight, no mention of barrel profile.

It looks like yours has the fixed carry handle - I assume A1 field sights and round Forward Assist? sorry I didn't see the bottom picture - slow dial-up.

And I assume the carbines in the movie HEAT are in fact model 733's?

thanks again!
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Posted: 7/5/2006 2:18:15 PM EST
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If you look down in the RETRO forum you'll see that Capt Richardson has an excellent thread on the History of Colt Military Carbines. You'll be able to find the model you are looking for and other pertainant information.

Here it is: Historical Colt Carbine Thread
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Posted: 7/5/2006 2:30:08 PM EST
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cptrfwright your welcome.

Sorry about the big photos but I wanted you to see the front site base well.

I got the upper from my brother and he says, he has the Colt paperwork certifying the authenticity of the upper as a true Commando.

It has either 4 or M4 on the front of the carry handle and M4 ramps. It's buried in the back of my safe and it's a real pain to get to.


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cptrfwright
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Posted: 7/5/2006 2:38:22 PM EST
Forest - thanks.

I have seen his excellent work and I will check it out again.
I don't post very often here, but I have spent hours reading and learning - I am a big shorty fan.

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I just came across another variation of the M16A2 "Commando" model 733 in my copy of "The Black Rifle" vol 1.
Page 354 shows one with tear drop Forward Assist and straight slip ring instead of tapered.
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Posted: 7/5/2006 5:59:41 PM EST
Sounds like a 733 to me.
I'm looking for a cheap, used 1/7 14.5" Bushmaster M4 barrel.
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Posted: 7/5/2006 7:46:56 PM EST
Most 733's lack the bayonet lug. And most have extended feed ramps, and the barrel extentions can be marked "4", but they are an earlier version, "mini ramps" if you will, and are not compatable with modern 900 series M4 ramps.
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Posted: 7/5/2006 8:18:26 PM EST
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M733 - Fixed carry handle


M933 - Removeable carry handle

M738 - Same as M733, but with enhaced fire control system (SAFE/SEMI/BURST/AUTO)

M938 - Same as M933, but with enhaced fire control system as well (SAFE/SEMI/BURST/AUTO).
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Posted: 7/6/2006 2:20:22 PM EST
Black-Tiger

Top picture is spot on!

Thanks to everyone for all the info on this very interesting model.