What will you be using it for?

The AR pistol is a fun range toy.
The AR SBR is fun at the range, but is also a great HD/SD gun.

Originally Posted By topgunpilot20: What will you be using it for? The AR pistol is a fun range toy. The AR SBR is fun at the range, but is also a great HD/SD gun.

Mostly Range, plinking, etc. but you just NEVER know!

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Originally Posted By ScotClayton: Your going to carry a AR Pistol as your CC weapon? No...but since it's classified as a pistol, I can carry it just about anywhere, vehicle, etc.

That's what i love about ND. You cna carry anything. pistol, rifle, showgun, subguns, AOW, you name it. heck, you coudl even carry chuck norris, if he'd let you.

Originally Posted By GENESMITH: Not a flame, just a curious question: would not a AR pistol work just as well for HD / SD as a AR SBR? Have never shot a AR pistol so I don't know how it handles, but since it's the same round, I'd think they are the same, infact I think the pistol would be better. Smaller, easier to handle etc. I ask because I'm thinking about buying / building an AR pistol. Thoughts? Gene

They both shoot about the same. However, the stock of an SBR makes it more controllable and makes follow up shots quicker.

For me, the AR pistol is for hip/point shooting. The SBR is for aimed fire.

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Sorry to be off topic, but what up with all "that"? Credentials? For info.?

Originally Posted By eklikwhoa: both!

Now...I have to admit, that's a GREAT idea!

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An SBR also has alot more real estate to add goodies (optics, NV, flashlight, etc....).

Originally Posted By Mute: An SBR also has alot more real estate to add goodies (optics, NV, flashlight, etc....).

As far as 'hanging goodies' on, you can make a pistol have just as much room.

I have never hung anything but a sling on the buttstock.

Originally Posted By aecasasus: IMHO...I don't like the way the buffer tube is exposed on the pistol, so I, BY FAR, like the SBR more than the pistol. I rather have an SBR and also be able to adapt a forward pistol grip, than just have a BIG pistol for CCW. Just my $.02!!!

I agree, I 'like' the looks of a SBR better, etc. That wasn't my question, or any of my points.
Since most SBR's are almost/or the same barrel lenghts, their performance is about the same, ballistically, right?

...but most places (I think approx 30 states) I could carry my AR Pistol or AK, or HK, or whatever in my vehicles, across state lines, take with me anyplace I could my normal CCW, but the SBR, technically I have to have permission to take it across state lines, etc. tax stamp, paperwork, etc, etc...k?


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Originally Posted By StealthyBlagga: AR Pistol is a range toy. If you want a CCW, then carry a Glock or similar - an AR pistol/SBR is just plain too big for any sort of convenient carry unless you like trench coats and are expecting trouble. If you want a truck rifle, then carry an AR carbine... it is really not much bigger than an SBR/pistol, especially if you disassemble it. If you want something small and instantly ready to go, then try an AK underfolder, which is the same size as the smallest AR SBR/pistols:

You are missing my point, I t hink too...I DO carry a 'regular' sidearm of various makes as my regular CCW, but since it's LEGAL to carry a pistol, I could just about carry a AR pistol, or AK, HK, etc, etc...just about anywhere...

Most states that allow CCW, don't allow loaded rifles, whether they are carbines, or underfolders, etc...but a pistol would be legal...right?


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I've dinked around with the concept of an AR pistol, but I haven't done it yet (I still have 4 receivers left out in the shop). Something about that buffer tube just looks kinda gay, like a big dildo sticking out towards my face or something.

On the other hand I have 4 AK pistols, 3 AMDs 1 Yugo Krinkov and plans to cut a romanian kit into a pistol. I feel they are great defensive weapons, I've shot the krinkov from the modified weaver stance with far better accuracy than my 8" ruger redhawk.

If you do buy/build an AR pistol just use the CAR length tube, as the old pistol tube was unreliable. I see the 7 1/2" barrels are prone to needing tinkering to run 100% as well (from what I hear 11 1/2" is the only length than runs very well out of the box.)

My only gripe with the AR platform is the buffer tube though.

I see where you're comeing from with the CCW thing, you just want to keep it in your car, right? Luckly in my state you can carry loaded long guns conceiled even if you don't have a CHL.

No, I wouldn't buy a SBR, most people will tell you never to use a NFA weapon as a defensive weapon, it should be kept in a safe.

A good friend of mine picked up an AR-15 pistol at last years CRW/SAR show. Had it about one month before he decided to put in the SBR paperwork. The AR pistol is an incredibly awkward muzzle heavy beast. His new SBR is a really handy little thing.

Paperwork took about 9 months :-(

In WA you cannot have a loaded rifle or SG, to include a loaded mag in the rifle or SG. We alos cannot have SBR or SBS.

You can have a loaded (AR) pistol of any kind, hell you can carry it if you so desire.



I have 2, and love them.

One is on a single point sling, and hangs just right to be carried if need be.

The other is a work in progress.


Shooting? Just great!