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Posted: 2/11/2004 9:54:05 PM EST
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Link Posted: 2/11/2004 10:13:26 PM EST
but why?
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Link Posted: 2/11/2004 10:25:20 PM EST
under those handguards is the HK gas piston mechanism. I like it, esp. the pictograms and the new magazine.
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Link Posted: 2/11/2004 10:31:08 PM EST
I like it!
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Link Posted: 2/12/2004 1:36:04 AM EST
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Link Posted: 2/12/2004 2:29:59 AM EST
having seen the work that HK did on the SA80A2 the quality of the parts they added is visable. I would sugest that work of that quality would be put into the M4 could only improve it. The SA80A2 according to the tests and user reports is a much better weapon than the SA80A1
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Link Posted: 2/12/2004 3:53:29 AM EST
ah...it finally appears!! another desperate act to reclaim the L.E. market. The once mighty realm of the MP5 has fallen to the M16. The much ballyhooed UMP was a wash, the G36 series hasn't caused much of a stir - alas H&K's 'supreme engineering talent' has resorted to plagiarism (mildly warmed over). I bet that was a large irregularly shaped bitter pill for someone in Obendorf to swallow. It had to be said - Flame Away.
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Link Posted: 2/12/2004 4:09:20 AM EST
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Link Posted: 2/12/2004 4:18:32 AM EST
I love HKs as much as the next guy, but what have I fallen back on time and time again? The 1911 and the M4. What's HK beginning to make again? Oh, yeah...1911s and M4s. Kinda funny.
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Link Posted: 2/12/2004 4:27:12 AM EST
1911s? Wow.
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Link Posted: 2/12/2004 4:37:51 AM EST
Gas piston under the handguards? Sweet. But I'll still be buying American!
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Link Posted: 2/12/2004 5:06:14 AM EST
Originally Posted By fastang50: Gas piston under the handguards? Sweet. But I'll still be buying American!
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Like H&K would give you the option anyway... anyone know whether this will be offered to the proles or is it LE/Military only?
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Link Posted: 2/12/2004 5:50:17 AM EST
This is kind of a bummer. Seems like HK either goes too far or not far enough. I was hoping for something that looked a little more G36ish with the ability to take a folding/adjustable stock. I wonde how much more this thing weighs than a regular AR?
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Link Posted: 2/12/2004 5:53:57 AM EST
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Link Posted: 2/12/2004 5:54:55 AM EST
1, That is a awesome picture, looks like the one I saw awhile back. not just an upper but the entire HK produced M4 with AR18 gas system and a tri rail block. you da man.....
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Link Posted: 2/12/2004 7:06:16 AM EST
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Here is the link to HK's official page on their new M4: [url=http://www.hk-usa.com/pages/military-le/rifles-carbines/m4temp.html]HK_M4[/url] Here are some of the highlights from HK's page: Unique Features: • Short-stroke piston gas system-- --Improved reliability --100% function --No fouling directed into weapon --Less cleaning --User removable/exchangeable components --Insensitive to barrel length or ammunition changes • Improved buffer system • Improved steel magazine: --Improved feeding reliability, durability, service life • Refined barrel/bolt locking recesses/lugs: --Improved function • Improved extractor and spring, buffer: --Improved function • Enhanced AG-C add-on 40mm grenade launcher • HK cold-hammer forged barrel --Extended service life --Improved accuracy and user safety Additional ongoing work: • Monolithic upper receiver with integral Rail Adapter System • Improved surface finish, ambidextrous controls • Safety Blank Firing Adapter and live round excluder magazine • HK free-floating modular rail system • Integrated reflex sight with nested IR laser aimer and illuminator Interesting things in the pipe such as a monolithic upper receiver.
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Link Posted: 2/12/2004 7:09:34 AM EST
no plans for a retail release.
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Link Posted: 2/12/2004 7:28:40 AM EST
Originally Posted By 1179: no plans for a retail release.
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From HK site: There are no plans [red]at this time[/red] to offer the HKM4 or its components for commercial or retail purchase.
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There is still some chance. [:)]
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Link Posted: 2/12/2004 7:42:30 AM EST
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Interesting weight comparison. HKM4 with vltor stock: 7.09lbs Colt M4 with regular stock and I assume carry handle: 5.9 lbs. [url]http://www.colt.com/mil/M4_2.asp[/url] How much heavier is the vltor? Edited to add: Colt M16A4 (with carry handle I assume): 7.5 lbs Hk 20" with A2 stock (with carry handle ??): 8.22 lbs that should give a pretty good idea of the wieght difference.
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Link Posted: 2/12/2004 7:46:58 AM EST
Can't wait to see the price on this one. Even a LE multiple purchase price.
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Link Posted: 2/12/2004 7:57:51 AM EST
A more reliable and cleaner AR. Now who would want that?
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Link Posted: 2/12/2004 8:06:16 AM EST
is the barrel chrome lined?
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Link Posted: 2/12/2004 8:13:14 AM EST
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Link Posted: 2/12/2004 8:16:54 AM EST
Originally Posted By Ridge: Interesting wieght comparison. HKM4 with vltor stock: 7.09lbs Colt M4 with regular stock and I assume carry handle: 5.9 lbs. [url]http://www.colt.com/mil/M4_2.asp[/url] How much heavier is the vltor?
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Link Posted: 2/12/2004 8:31:18 AM EST
pics with and without ejection port dust covers....wonder which is the final design.
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Link Posted: 2/12/2004 8:43:55 AM EST
What scope is on that thing? IT's not an Aimpoint, is it?
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Link Posted: 2/12/2004 8:56:02 AM EST
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Link Posted: 2/12/2004 9:15:06 AM EST
I LIKE it. it's GENIUS
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Link Posted: 2/12/2004 9:28:15 AM EST
[bounce][bounce] [crosses fingers]ON STANDBY for a Civvy Upper!!
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Link Posted: 2/12/2004 10:22:40 AM EST
No Civvy uppers, BUT... They will be marketed to LEO in the near future. What does that mean? I'm buying one and stripping it down for my civvy gun [;)] I didn't realize that it was going to be THAT reliable... That's awesome! -Cap'n
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Link Posted: 2/12/2004 11:02:18 AM EST
The goal of the program to offer an M4-style carbine that will fire 20,000 rounds without cleaning, lubrication, stoppages, or parts replacement has been realized in the development of the HKM4 Enhanced Carbine.
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The prices on transferable M16s are going to go up. DAM!! It doesnt look like the parts the HK upper uses will fit on to current AR uppers. The bolt and carrier looks the same but on one of their pictures it does not show anything coming out of the barrel where the gas tube would be. O well I guess i gotta start saving for whenever they release these out to the public.
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Link Posted: 2/12/2004 11:24:07 AM EST
He is trying SO hard not to get his cheek muddy [:D] [img]http://www.hk-usa.com/pages/military-le/mil-leimages/m4yumaburst.jpg[/img]
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Link Posted: 2/12/2004 12:35:45 PM EST
Anyone else consider this one hell of a better alternative to the XM8???
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Link Posted: 2/12/2004 12:56:15 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Nate1: Anyone else consider this one hell of a better alternative to the XM8???
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I would think somewhere inbetween the two would be perfect. This one definately needs to lose some weight. Edit: And of course with the ablity to accept any new improved chamberings.
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Link Posted: 2/12/2004 1:45:55 PM EST
Here's the link to all the info: [url]http://www.hk-usa.com/pages/Military-LE/rifles-carbines/m4.html[/url] Please, please, PLEASE let this be up civilian sale!
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Link Posted: 2/12/2004 2:13:31 PM EST
Unfortunately this will probably be another overpriced HK, that won't even be available to the average person in this country.
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Link Posted: 2/12/2004 2:14:16 PM EST
Just got back from the show. The HK guy let us take to handguard off and look. VERY slick and VERY G36ish. We took some pics but my buddy has them, will post later.
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Link Posted: 2/12/2004 2:26:45 PM EST
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Link Posted: 2/12/2004 2:54:12 PM EST
Originally Posted By Aimless: H&K is making 1911s now? Is there anyone who hasn't started making them in the last year?
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Indeed, Sig is making them now, too. Brian
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Link Posted: 2/12/2004 2:58:56 PM EST
Originally Posted By Nate1: Anyone else consider this one hell of a better alternative to the XM8??? I agree %100. If the weight could be lessened it would the answer to the reliabilty questions that seem to follow the M-16A2s. I'm wonder it hasn't gotten more publicity?
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Link Posted: 2/12/2004 2:59:42 PM EST
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Originally Posted By QuietShootr: I love HKs as much as the next guy, but what have I fallen back on time and time again? The 1911 and the M4. What's HK beginning to make again? Oh, yeah...1911s and M4s. Kinda funny.
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I gotta agree with QS. To me the HK M4 doesn't even have much appeal other than as novelty, although the gas piston system is a nice touch. Factor in that it will probably be overpriced, and there is a good chance they won't make it for civvies, and I could care less that they are making this... BUT if they do offer to civvies and at a competitive price I will be pleasantly surprised.
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Link Posted: 2/12/2004 3:04:03 PM EST
Shit I just want the new gas/piston system.
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Link Posted: 2/12/2004 3:32:59 PM EST
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The goal of the program to offer an M4-style carbine that will fire 20,000 rounds without cleaning, lubrication, stoppages, or parts replacement has been realized in the development of the HKM4 Enhanced Carbine.
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The prices on transferable M16s are going to go up. DAM!! It doesnt look like the parts the HK upper uses will fit on to current AR uppers. The bolt and carrier looks the same but on one of their pictures it does not show anything coming out of the barrel where the gas tube would be. O well I guess i gotta start saving for whenever they release these out to the public.
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Uppers available, perhaps....
While development and validation testing of the HKM4 is still ongoing, it is anticipated that HK will offer retrofit services for existing M4-style weapons to the HKM4 standard for U.S. and foreign military and law enforcement users. A “ drop in” HKM4 upper receiver module and a complete carbine are also nearing completion.
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Link Posted: 2/12/2004 4:10:52 PM EST
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Unless they mark the uppers LEO there will be uppers out there if only as stripped parts. The price though those would sell for if that were the only source for them....., Mike
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Link Posted: 2/12/2004 4:18:05 PM EST
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I just found this picture. [img]http://www.hk-usa.com/corporate/media/mediaimages/m4coverlg.jpg[/img] Its a real nice looking prototype and everything, but I just don't get the point. I'll stick with my Colt, Bushmaster, RRA, Olympic, DPMS, etc, etc, etc. I would love to get my hands on about 20-30 of the magazines!
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Link Posted: 2/12/2004 4:23:21 PM EST
I think alot of you are jumping the gun. For almost all of us this is the first time seeing this. They said they're undecided if they were going to release it to the civilian market. That doesn't mean NO. Would you consider $1500 too much for the upper? Look what a LMT upper cost. I think they're waiting on a military contract.
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Link Posted: 2/12/2004 4:33:22 PM EST
I believe this is it for the direct gas system. It's either the HK M4 upper or the XM8. I think the Jessica Lynch firefight was the final nail in the coffin. The U. S. public hasn't heard of military weapons failure since Vietnam and the introduction of the M16. If the new HK upper performs like promised I'd say stop right there we have a winner. If not I'm all for a new platform with a new caliber.
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Link Posted: 2/12/2004 4:40:01 PM EST
Originally Posted By Va_Dinger: Its a real nice looking prototype and everything, but I just don't get the point.
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Don't get the point?! An AR that goes "20,000 rounds without cleaning" doesn't interest you? If HK can "walk the walk", that reliability that I can only dream about with my AR. Hell, even my AK for that matter.
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Link Posted: 2/12/2004 4:44:24 PM EST
I wonder how much the rifle or the upper will cost IF made available to the public? They said that the gas system can be retrofitted to existing rifles so maybe they might make a kit available to the public. But then again HK is very slow when it comes to the public wants and needs. If the price is right, i'm selling my Bushy.
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Link Posted: 2/12/2004 5:08:10 PM EST
Dinger, ya mean these mags [;)] [img]http://www.hunt101.com/img/101251-big.jpg[/img] I got some more of the new ones, not the old dull finished ones, and I love them. These are nothing like the bad batch we received previously. Fit and finish are 100%, function is 110%, and they're so easy to clean. -Cap'n
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