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Posted: 2/12/2004 2:54:05 AM
[Last Edit: 2/12/2004 2:54:50 AM by 1001001]
Direct from HKPRO's main page.

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Posted: 2/12/2004 3:13:26 AM
but why?
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Posted: 2/12/2004 3:25:20 AM
under those handguards is the HK gas piston mechanism. I like it, esp. the pictograms and the new magazine.
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Posted: 2/12/2004 3:31:08 AM
I like it!
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Posted: 2/12/2004 6:36:04 AM
Uh-oh, come to daddy! :D
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Posted: 2/12/2004 7:29:59 AM
having seen the work that HK did on the SA80A2 the quality of the parts they added is visable. I would sugest that work of that quality would be put into the M4 could only improve it. The SA80A2 according to the tests and user reports is a much better weapon than the SA80A1
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Posted: 2/12/2004 8:53:29 AM
ah...it finally appears!! another desperate act to reclaim the L.E. market. The once mighty realm of the MP5 has fallen to the M16. The much ballyhooed UMP was a wash, the G36 series hasn't caused much of a stir - alas H&K's 'supreme engineering talent' has resorted to plagiarism (mildly warmed over). I bet that was a large irregularly shaped bitter pill for someone in Obendorf to swallow. It had to be said - Flame Away.
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Posted: 2/12/2004 9:09:20 AM
HK.... [chainsawkill]
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Posted: 2/12/2004 9:18:32 AM
I love HKs as much as the next guy, but what have I fallen back on time and time again? The 1911 and the M4. What's HK beginning to make again? Oh, yeah...1911s and M4s. Kinda funny.
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Posted: 2/12/2004 9:24:55 AM
H&K is making 1911s now? Is there anyone who hasn't started making them in the last year?
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Posted: 2/12/2004 9:27:12 AM
1911s? Wow.
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Posted: 2/12/2004 9:37:51 AM
Gas piston under the handguards? Sweet. But I'll still be buying American!
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Posted: 2/12/2004 10:06:14 AM
Originally Posted By fastang50: Gas piston under the handguards? Sweet. But I'll still be buying American!
Like H&K would give you the option anyway... anyone know whether this will be offered to the proles or is it LE/Military only?
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Posted: 2/12/2004 10:50:17 AM
This is kind of a bummer. Seems like HK either goes too far or not far enough. I was hoping for something that looked a little more G36ish with the ability to take a folding/adjustable stock. I wonde how much more this thing weighs than a regular AR?
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Posted: 2/12/2004 10:53:57 AM
cool!
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Posted: 2/12/2004 10:54:55 AM
1, That is a awesome picture, looks like the one I saw awhile back. not just an upper but the entire HK produced M4 with AR18 gas system and a tri rail block. you da man.....
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Posted: 2/12/2004 12:06:16 PM
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Here is the link to HK's official page on their new M4: [url=http://www.hk-usa.com/pages/military-le/rifles-carbines/m4temp.html]HK_M4[/url] Here are some of the highlights from HK's page: Unique Features: • Short-stroke piston gas system-- --Improved reliability --100% function --No fouling directed into weapon --Less cleaning --User removable/exchangeable components --Insensitive to barrel length or ammunition changes • Improved buffer system • Improved steel magazine: --Improved feeding reliability, durability, service life • Refined barrel/bolt locking recesses/lugs: --Improved function • Improved extractor and spring, buffer: --Improved function • Enhanced AG-C add-on 40mm grenade launcher • HK cold-hammer forged barrel --Extended service life --Improved accuracy and user safety Additional ongoing work: • Monolithic upper receiver with integral Rail Adapter System • Improved surface finish, ambidextrous controls • Safety Blank Firing Adapter and live round excluder magazine • HK free-floating modular rail system • Integrated reflex sight with nested IR laser aimer and illuminator Interesting things in the pipe such as a monolithic upper receiver.
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Posted: 2/12/2004 12:09:34 PM
no plans for a retail release.
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Posted: 2/12/2004 12:28:40 PM
Originally Posted By 1179: no plans for a retail release.
From HK site: There are no plans [red]at this time[/red] to offer the HKM4 or its components for commercial or retail purchase.
There is still some chance. [:)]
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Posted: 2/12/2004 12:42:30 PM
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Interesting weight comparison. HKM4 with vltor stock: 7.09lbs Colt M4 with regular stock and I assume carry handle: 5.9 lbs. [url]http://www.colt.com/mil/M4_2.asp[/url] How much heavier is the vltor? Edited to add: Colt M16A4 (with carry handle I assume): 7.5 lbs Hk 20" with A2 stock (with carry handle ??): 8.22 lbs that should give a pretty good idea of the wieght difference.
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Posted: 2/12/2004 12:46:58 PM
Can't wait to see the price on this one. Even a LE multiple purchase price.
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Posted: 2/12/2004 12:57:51 PM
A more reliable and cleaner AR. Now who would want that?
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Posted: 2/12/2004 1:06:16 PM
is the barrel chrome lined?
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Posted: 2/12/2004 1:13:14 PM
[img]http://www.hk-usa.com/pages/military-le/mil-leimages/m4yumaburst.jpg[/img]
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Posted: 2/12/2004 1:16:54 PM
Originally Posted By Ridge: Interesting wieght comparison. HKM4 with vltor stock: 7.09lbs Colt M4 with regular stock and I assume carry handle: 5.9 lbs. [url]http://www.colt.com/mil/M4_2.asp[/url] How much heavier is the vltor?
If anything, the vltor is lighter.
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Posted: 2/12/2004 1:31:18 PM
pics with and without ejection port dust covers....wonder which is the final design.
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