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Posted: 7/1/2013 8:45:11 PM
[Last Edit: 7/2/2013 1:46:54 PM by dsonyay]
I have an HBC. Anyone have an idea of what the trigger pulls average coming out the factory? Mine seems awefully heavy now that I've fired it over 200 rounds. Trying to shoot a tight group is made difficult by the trigger. I'm going to have it weighed when I get home this weekend.

I'm thinking of buying a 6lb GI spec drop-in from Midway. Mine feels like its about 8 pounds maybe 9.

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/788204/alg-defense-quality-mil-spec-trigger-ar-15-lr-308-small-pin-154-single-stage-matte?cm_vc=subv1469179

Or this:

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/469179/alg-defense-combat-trigger-ar-15-lr-308-small-pin-154-single-stage-matte



I'd send it in but I hate thinking it could get stolen or something. I'm a bit distrustful of UPS
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Posted: 7/6/2013 9:29:48 PM
My SRC was pretty tough too. I did not measure it but it seemed over 7lbs stock. And a enough creep to be annoying.
I just got a new single-stage ALG trigger tuned by Geissele for $70 and put a red hammer spring (Brownells) instead of the on it comes with for more positive ignition/reliability.

The Result: I freaking love it! My guess is <5.5 lbs now and smooth. VERY smooth. I found the link. its cheaper now. Highly recommend it. The "Tuned By Geissele" maybe made the difference.

http://www.joeboboutfitters.com/ALG_Defense_Combat_Trigger_ACT_Tuned_By_Geissele_p/alg-act.htm
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Posted: 7/15/2013 8:16:50 AM
Originally Posted By dbrevelle:
My SRC was pretty tough too. I did not measure it but it seemed over 7lbs stock. And a enough creep to be annoying.
I just got a new single-stage ALG trigger tuned by Geissele for $70 and put a red hammer spring (Brownells) instead of the on it comes with for more positive ignition/reliability.

The Result: I freaking love it! My guess is <5.5 lbs now and smooth. VERY smooth. I found the link. its cheaper now. Highly recommend it. The "Tuned By Geissele" maybe made the difference.

http://www.joeboboutfitters.com/ALG_Defense_Combat_Trigger_ACT_Tuned_By_Geissele_p/alg-act.htm


I installed the ACT as well. Love it. 65.00 and installed in 10 minutes:

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w274/dsonyay/IMG_20130713_123554_741_zps45dfac4e.jpg

I did the same as well. I thought about sending it back to Windham. They offered to look over the trigger and make some adjustments for me. But I figured I'd just have a bit of fun, polish it myself, and learn something in the process. It is very easy to get to these parts out and if a real repair is needed, I can do it myself now.

Well, I polished up the trigger and hammer as well as I could but the trigger was not improved very much.

I want to say, the trigger was likely fine for what it was intended for, just not great- probably on the high end of milspec.

Doing it myself was fun too. In the end I dropped in the new ACT and love it. A little lube and a dab of grease on the engagement area and it's really nice. Really nice take up and a break at an estimated 6 pounds.

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w274/dsonyay/IMG_20130713_123554_741_zps45dfac4e.jpg

Engagement areas are polished really bright. Camera couldn't get as good an image as I wanted, and everything has a "slick" feel.

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w274/dsonyay/IMG_20130713_123623_165_zps4a284b39.jpg


After install:

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w274/dsonyay/IMG_20130713_125534_314_zps41dbb1f7.jpg

I'm probably going to Duracoat the trigger pad black. So far I'm fine with the slight contrast.
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Posted: 7/16/2013 6:46:05 PM
Yep.. looks just like mine.
I kinda like the contrast of the silver trigger.

Glad the new trigger worked out. I didnt want to pay $200+ for a high-end single stage drop-in trigger. The ACT was the only viable option for me. Glad i did.

I do Cerakote at my house. Not professionally (although I have charged a few friends cost of materials and such). I happened to have the equipment and decided to Cerakote my pistols and rifles a while back.
Haven't had time to do the Windham SRC yet, its still a stock finish. But I'm thinking Tungsten Gray upper & lower with black furniture...
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Posted: 7/22/2013 1:58:36 PM
Any reports on the drop in trigger that Windham offers from Patriot Ordnance..... 3-5 pound pull is way better then what I currently have in my Mass. Compliant AR.
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Posted: 7/23/2013 4:31:48 PM
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I'm curious about the drop in trigger Isotox mentioned. I picked up an ALG to have as a spare. I'm pretty happy with the trigger on my WW after Erik worked on it so I don't intend to replace it. In fact I love it.

I guess I'm asking how does that drop in from Patriot Ord compare to what I have? Erik, any thoughts? I'd love to be able to replicate the trigger with a drop in unit instead of having to trouble you for any future rifles.
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Posted: 7/24/2013 7:28:03 AM
[Jump To Reply]Originally Posted By Shorts:
I'm curious about the drop in trigger Isotox mentioned. I picked up an ALG to have as a spare. I'm pretty happy with the trigger on my WW after Erik worked on it so I don't intend to replace it. In fact I love it.

I guess I'm asking how does that drop in from Patriot Ord compare to what I have? Erik, any thoughts? I'd love to be able to replicate the trigger with a drop in unit instead of having to trouble you for any future rifles.


The POF trigger is very nice. I think it's somewhere between 4-5lbs and very crisp. I also just got a sample of a Chip McCormick single stage trigger in. That one wieghed out at 3.5lbs. Actually a little lighter than I prefer.
I heard Chip McCormick no longer makes a two stage.
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Posted: 7/24/2013 5:36:40 PM
Thanks Erik. That gives me perspective.
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Posted: 7/27/2013 3:38:22 PM
i did this and honed the hammer , great trigger at no cost . i have done it to 3 ar-15 's so far , easy .

http://www.sargenthome.com/15_Minute_AR_Trigger_Job.htm
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Posted: 8/6/2013 9:15:08 PM
i did the 15 MIN T.J. also to my WW M4 , as well as my son's Olympic arm ar . 15 , cost zero ;) both have smooth light triggers .
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Posted: 8/7/2013 4:37:36 PM
Wonder what WW-Tech Support thinks about the 15 Trigger Job?
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Posted: 8/8/2013 8:31:55 AM
[Jump To Reply]Originally Posted By windhampensacolanma:
Wonder what WW-Tech Support thinks about the 15 Trigger Job?


Seems like it's probably okay. I don't know why he suggests removing the safety. If you just rotate the safety 45 degrees you get the trigger out. Also I don't cut a leg of the hammer spring since this engages the groove in the trigger pin to keep it from walking. Yes you can just make sure the groove is on the side of the uncut leg of the spring, but I would rather both legs be intact. I just bend one of the hammer spring legs a bit more which lightens the pull.