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I would be very curious to hear Geissele's response to this. Surely they had prototypes to test this out with...
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Yea, looks like my Geissele rifle will have some other makers charging handle. Maybe they will come out with a Gen 2 model in a year or so. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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What a huge disappointment. Yea, looks like my Geissele rifle will have some other makers charging handle. Maybe they will come out with a Gen 2 model in a year or so. Damn Looks like my SBR will be getting a raptor for now. As a Geissele fan boy this blows. |
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Damn Looks like my SBR will be getting a raptor for now. As a Geissele fan boy this blows. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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What a huge disappointment. Yea, looks like my Geissele rifle will have some other makers charging handle. Maybe they will come out with a Gen 2 model in a year or so. Damn Looks like my SBR will be getting a raptor for now. As a Geissele fan boy this blows. Ya know, I just figured out on my AR rifles, I have a little over $1800 worth of Geissele products. Now that's probably little fish territory for most people, but it's a lot for a working man. I love their stuff and I respect the man, his company, and his beliefs. But I'm a little annoyed this thread has been ignored by them since January. A little information on where I could have bought one and a realistic update on their progress would have been nice. |
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Ya know, I just figured out on my AR rifles, I have a little over $1800 worth of Geissele products. Now that's probably little fish territory for most people, but it's a lot for a working man. I love their stuff and I respect the man, his company, and his beliefs. But I'm a little annoyed this thread has been ignored by them since January. A little information on where I could have bought one and a realistic update on their progress would have been nice. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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What a huge disappointment. Yea, looks like my Geissele rifle will have some other makers charging handle. Maybe they will come out with a Gen 2 model in a year or so. Damn Looks like my SBR will be getting a raptor for now. As a Geissele fan boy this blows. Ya know, I just figured out on my AR rifles, I have a little over $1800 worth of Geissele products. Now that's probably little fish territory for most people, but it's a lot for a working man. I love their stuff and I respect the man, his company, and his beliefs. But I'm a little annoyed this thread has been ignored by them since January. A little information on where I could have bought one and a realistic update on their progress would have been nice. I have about the same amount of money of their gear too. I love every piece I own so hopefully they can address our concerns and let us know whats up. |
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I have about the same amount of money of their gear too. I love every piece I own so hopefully they can address our concerns and let us know whats up. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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What a huge disappointment. Yea, looks like my Geissele rifle will have some other makers charging handle. Maybe they will come out with a Gen 2 model in a year or so. Damn Looks like my SBR will be getting a raptor for now. As a Geissele fan boy this blows. Ya know, I just figured out on my AR rifles, I have a little over $1800 worth of Geissele products. Now that's probably little fish territory for most people, but it's a lot for a working man. I love their stuff and I respect the man, his company, and his beliefs. But I'm a little annoyed this thread has been ignored by them since January. A little information on where I could have bought one and a realistic update on their progress would have been nice. I have about the same amount of money of their gear too. I love every piece I own so hopefully they can address our concerns and let us know whats up. Agreed..!! |
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Here is a quick & dirty review/comparison I conducted with the Geissele Super Charging Handle. I have not fired the rifle with the GSCH installed yet, but so far I'm disappointed in the design. IMO, the top of the stem needs to have more of a bevel. I'm also doubting its supposed gas-busting capabilities until proven otherwise. http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/696039_Charging_Handle_Comparison____Warning__Willy_Nilly_and_Unscientific_as_a_MFer___.html View Quote We tested these guys on every gun we could get our hands on and never saw the sticking issue. Just call into the shop and talk to Joe P. We will do whats needed to make this right. If anyone has this same issue we will fix it. If those bevels are absolutely needed we put them in and send a new SCH out. Sometimes issues come up when components get into the wider AR world. Just know we will make things completely good. WHG |
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We tested these guys on every gun we could get our hands on and never saw the sticking issue. Just call into the shop and talk to Joe P. We will do whats needed to make this right. If anyone has this same issue we will fix it. If those bevels are absolutely needed we put them in and send a new SCH out. Sometimes issues come up when components get into the wider AR world. Just know we will make things completely good. WHG View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Here is a quick & dirty review/comparison I conducted with the Geissele Super Charging Handle. I have not fired the rifle with the GSCH installed yet, but so far I'm disappointed in the design. IMO, the top of the stem needs to have more of a bevel. I'm also doubting its supposed gas-busting capabilities until proven otherwise. http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/696039_Charging_Handle_Comparison____Warning__Willy_Nilly_and_Unscientific_as_a_MFer___.html We tested these guys on every gun we could get our hands on and never saw the sticking issue. Just call into the shop and talk to Joe P. We will do whats needed to make this right. If anyone has this same issue we will fix it. If those bevels are absolutely needed we put them in and send a new SCH out. Sometimes issues come up when components get into the wider AR world. Just know we will make things completely good. WHG Cool, I'll still buy one then! |
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We tested these guys on every gun we could get our hands on and never saw the sticking issue. Just call into the shop and talk to Joe P. We will do whats needed to make this right. If anyone has this same issue we will fix it. If those bevels are absolutely needed we put them in and send a new SCH out. Sometimes issues come up when components get into the wider AR world. Just know we will make things completely good. WHG View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Here is a quick & dirty review/comparison I conducted with the Geissele Super Charging Handle. I have not fired the rifle with the GSCH installed yet, but so far I'm disappointed in the design. IMO, the top of the stem needs to have more of a bevel. I'm also doubting its supposed gas-busting capabilities until proven otherwise. http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/696039_Charging_Handle_Comparison____Warning__Willy_Nilly_and_Unscientific_as_a_MFer___.html We tested these guys on every gun we could get our hands on and never saw the sticking issue. Just call into the shop and talk to Joe P. We will do whats needed to make this right. If anyone has this same issue we will fix it. If those bevels are absolutely needed we put them in and send a new SCH out. Sometimes issues come up when components get into the wider AR world. Just know we will make things completely good. WHG Awesome. Just awesome. |
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Ok we got Dets upper in today.
There are two things going on here. One is our bad. We have the hole in the front of the charging handle offset by a slight amount where it needs to be so that its centered on the gas key. This is not a machining problem but a design problem and we are shifting the hole so it line up better. This does not seem to be any issue on every gun we have on our hands but in the case of Det's gun the gas key seems to be sloped downward toward the muzzle by .004". With this slope and our hole offset it was causing the tabs in the charging handle to rub in the slots. This is why the charging handle seemed stiff. So Det I am sorry for the inconvenience we caused you. When you get your gun back please take a moment and let us know if the care package we are sending with your upper makes things right :). If anyone has a charging handle that does not move freely just contact us and we will send a modified one out. WHG |
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Quoted: Ok we got Dets upper in today. There are two things going on here. One is our bad. We have the hole in the front of the charging handle offset by a slight amount where it needs to be so that its centered on the gas key. This is not a machining problem but a design problem and we are shifting the hole so it line up better. This does not seem to be any issue on every gun we have on our hands but in the case of Det's gun the gas key seems to be sloped downward toward the muzzle by .004". With this slope and our hole offset it was causing the tabs in the charging handle to rub in the slots. This is why the charging handle seemed stiff. So Det I am sorry for the inconvenience we caused you. When you get your gun back please take a moment and let us know if the care package we are sending with your upper makes things right :). If anyone has a charging handle that does not move freely just contact us and we will send a modified one out. WHG View Quote I've never had any G issues but I'm always impressed how you take care of everyone. Keep up the great work. |
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Awesome. Any new product launch might have some flaws and hiccups, but it's what is done to solve these issues that defines a great company from a average company. Nice to see them taking care of you. Can't wait to hear about the care package...
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Are these available from the Geissele website yet? View Quote Aim has some: http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?item=XGASCHDDC&name=Geissele+Automatics+Super+Charging+Handle+5.56+-+DDC&groupid=2595 |
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Aim has some: http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?item=XGASCHDDC&name=Geissele+Automatics+Super+Charging+Handle+5.56+-+DDC&groupid=2595 View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Are these available from the Geissele website yet? Aim has some: http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?item=XGASCHDDC&name=Geissele+Automatics+Super+Charging+Handle+5.56+-+DDC&groupid=2595 I saw that but I want it in black and it's OOS. |
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Ok we got Dets upper in today. There are two things going on here. One is our bad. We have the hole in the front of the charging handle offset by a slight amount where it needs to be so that its centered on the gas key. This is not a machining problem but a design problem and we are shifting the hole so it line up better. This does not seem to be any issue on every gun we have on our hands but in the case of Det's gun the gas key seems to be sloped downward toward the muzzle by .004". With this slope and our hole offset it was causing the tabs in the charging handle to rub in the slots. This is why the charging handle seemed stiff. So Det I am sorry for the inconvenience we caused you. When you get your gun back please take a moment and let us know if the care package we are sending with your upper makes things right :). If anyone has a charging handle that does not move freely just contact us and we will send a modified one out. WHG View Quote This is exactly why I buy from specific manufacturers. They make great products and when there's an error they do what they can to correct it and make things right. |
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Ok we got Dets upper in today. There are two things going on here. One is our bad. We have the hole in the front of the charging handle offset by a slight amount where it needs to be so that its centered on the gas key. This is not a machining problem but a design problem and we are shifting the hole so it line up better. This does not seem to be any issue on every gun we have on our hands but in the case of Det's gun the gas key seems to be sloped downward toward the muzzle by .004". With this slope and our hole offset it was causing the tabs in the charging handle to rub in the slots. This is why the charging handle seemed stiff. So Det I am sorry for the inconvenience we caused you. When you get your gun back please take a moment and let us know if the care package we are sending with your upper makes things right :). If anyone has a charging handle that does not move freely just contact us and we will send a modified one out. WHG View Quote Bill, where do I begin? This doesn't happen very often where I am at a complete loss for words. As you may have guessed, my upper assembly showed back up today. When I opened the box, my kids had to run in the room and check on me because they thought I was having a heart attack. Thank you so much for the gear and swag. Honestly, Bill, I cannot remember a time in my entire life when I have been shown such kindness and generosity by someone whom I'd never met. You didn't have to do any of this. You truly went way above and far beyond any expectations here. Wow, just unbelievable. I am so happy right now. Thank you so much! Your customer for life, DetrhoytMAK |
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Det: I'm like you, I've never had the privilege of meeting any of the Geissele crew in person. However, I've always been floored by their politeness, and courtesy offered to everyone, even a simple, boring person like myself.
There is a very simple reason I spend my money on things from Geissele. They give a damn. |
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I'm happy to report that my Super Charging Handle works perfectly in my KAC Mod 2 upper. I look forward to shooting it this weekend!
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Anyone have a chance to run one of these suppressed? I'm waiting to see how they handle gas.
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Just ordered all the parts to finish my AR build, and the SCH are all out of stock
Not so patiently awaiting a FDE one to come into stock!! |
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Gun Toyz had some of the tan ones at the mesquite gun show this weekend. They'll be in Fort Worth next week if you're still looking.
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Primary Arms has some DDC CH in stock: http://www.primaryarms.com/05-313s/p/05-313s/
SWFA may have some (it adds to cart): http://swfa.com/Geissele-Super-Charging-Handle-P93244.aspx |
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Primary Arms has some DDC CH in stock: http://www.primaryarms.com/05-313s/p/05-313s/ SWFA may have some (it adds to cart): http://swfa.com/Geissele-Super-Charging-Handle-P93244.aspx View Quote Thank you!!! Ordered. Now I can finish the rifle! |
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Primary Arms has some DDC CH in stock: http://www.primaryarms.com/05-313s/p/05-313s/ SWFA may have some (it adds to cart): http://swfa.com/Geissele-Super-Charging-Handle-P93244.aspx View Quote Order placed with SWFA. Thanks! |
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Got to love PA's fast shipping. Got my DDC SCH today, so I'm just waiting on a TA33 and BCG from AIM to complete the rifle.
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Got an email saying it was out of stock, back ordered, and wouldn't be available for several weeks. I cancelled my order and will wait for it to show up in stock elsewhere. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Order placed with SWFA. Thanks! Got an email saying it was out of stock, back ordered, and wouldn't be available for several weeks. I cancelled my order and will wait for it to show up in stock elsewhere. That's pretty common with them. It'll pop up somewhere soon. I'd be surprised if someone doesn't advertise it with their holiday sales (though maybe not discounted just yet). |
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I'd like to test further, it may be the charging handle. I don't want to place blame yet.
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Quoted: After speaking with Det I received my Geissele charging handle last night and in my Spikes billet upper it does not move freely. I used fine grit sand paper and kept at it and it has loosened a bit but still does not slide freely. I happened to mention this to Det and he said he had a similar issue and forwarded me this thread. View Quote |
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Sorry he posted earlier and I didn't remember his full name. Either way I think it may be an issue from the Spikes upper so I will withdraw that claim. Might have been a bit early
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Quoted: Sorry he posted earlier and I didn't remember his full name. Either way I think it may be an issue from the Spikes upper so I will withdraw that claim. Might have been a bit early View Quote |
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Well I've been using the sand paper on the inside of the channel in the upper. I've been sliding the charging handle within the chamber and it now looks like its seen 100's of rounds. I'm not to worried about appearance of the charging handle or the inside of the upper I just want a functioning gun. I sent the Spikes rep I got the upper on the board from an email asking for advice on how best to allow the charging handle to move freely.
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When are some more black CH's going to ship, I've been on backorder for weeks?
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Any reviews from suppressed shooters on handling blowback? View Quote I will say it does an alright job, but not as good a job as the Armageddon CH. Then again, as a lefty, I'm going to be more susceptible to catching whatever comes out of the ejection port as well. Because of this, I've put my two Geissele CHs on my SBRs, one of which has a 10.3" DD barrel with the smaller gas port, the other has a 12" LaRue barrel and a SLR adjustable gas block. The Armageddon is on my 14.5" P&W that has a Voodoo barrel with regular port size and no adjustable gas block. |
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Has anyone been able to find the charging handles in stock anywhere? Geissele, when are you shipping more charging handles?
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