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Posted: 4/22/2014 4:33:14 PM EDT
As you probably have seen. Magpul has released their M-LOK technology to the public, and we will be one of the first to carry products to support this technology. Introducing the MK8
http://geissele.com/m-lok-technology Get a little sneak peek of the MK8, coming soon! |
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Can you please give us lengths and weight with barrel nut?
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Looks to be using the same aluminum light barrelnut from the MK4 series.
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I think this is what Bill told me about last year but asked me not to blab about...
Is there any way to get these to work on the MK4 OG slots? |
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Dibs on the first 15" produced.
Weights/lengths would be appreciated, looks good guys. |
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Just wondering why you guys have changed the design of your cuts.. see below. http://d3cfki0l5o2ps6.cloudfront.net/media/wysiwyg/special-content/MK8-black-background-1.jpg They look to be leaving much more material behind. Is this to reduce machine time and cost? View Quote I do not care for the cut outs in this pic. I much prefer the look of the original design. |
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Just wondering why you guys have changed the design of your cuts.. see below. http://d3cfki0l5o2ps6.cloudfront.net/media/wysiwyg/special-content/MK8-black-background-1.jpg They look to be leaving much more material behind. Is this to reduce machine time and cost? I do not care for the cut outs in this pic. I much prefer the look of the original design. Agreed. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Just wondering why you guys have changed the design of your cuts.. see below. http://d3cfki0l5o2ps6.cloudfront.net/media/wysiwyg/special-content/MK8-black-background-1.jpg They look to be leaving much more material behind. Is this to reduce machine time and cost? I do not care for the cut outs in this pic. I much prefer the look of the original design. We made the cuts squareish to go along with the rectangular M-LOK aperture. We can always do the other openings with the slim diagonal if thats what people want. Let us know once you see some more pictures of the rails out there |
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Will the new M-LOW system work with existing rails, like the Mk 4?
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I personally dig the squarish cuts in the rail; reminds me of the original MK4 Mod 0. You have to get one of these things in the hands to really appreciate the design cues.
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That there be the one. The square cuts were slightly oversized on the MK4 Mod 0 but I never burned my fingers on a hot barrel. The MK8 has smaller square cuts that mitigate that potential issue. I can see how folks appreciate the Mod 1 relief cut style but like I said, you have to get one in hand before passing judgement. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I personally dig the squarish cuts in the rail; reminds me of the original MK4 Mod 0. You have to get one of these things in the hands to really appreciate the design cues. This the Mod 0??? http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac81/trident1982/b147e787-0e1e-49fe-b9bc-cb3edd3ff13e_zps8f9656ee.jpg That there be the one. The square cuts were slightly oversized on the MK4 Mod 0 but I never burned my fingers on a hot barrel. The MK8 has smaller square cuts that mitigate that potential issue. I can see how folks appreciate the Mod 1 relief cut style but like I said, you have to get one in hand before passing judgement. But 75% of my decision is based on looks, Geissele Rails happen to excel at function too. |
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Maybe it is the angle that I took the photo that doesn't do it justice. I'll try to get more photos by week's end.
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We made the cuts squareish to go along with the rectangular M-LOK aperture. We can always do the other openings with the slim diagonal if thats what people want. Let us know once you see some more pictures of the rails out there View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Just wondering why you guys have changed the design of your cuts.. see below. http://d3cfki0l5o2ps6.cloudfront.net/media/wysiwyg/special-content/MK8-black-background-1.jpg They look to be leaving much more material behind. Is this to reduce machine time and cost? I do not care for the cut outs in this pic. I much prefer the look of the original design. We made the cuts squareish to go along with the rectangular M-LOK aperture. We can always do the other openings with the slim diagonal if thats what people want. Let us know once you see some more pictures of the rails out there NO! The original square/oval cuts from the early rails is exactly what I want back. I am not fond of the diagonal "pears", they clash with the rest of the openings on the side and upper portions. |
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NO! The original square/oval cuts from the early rails is exactly what I want back. I am not fond of the diagonal "pears", they clash with the rest of the openings on the side and upper portions. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Just wondering why you guys have changed the design of your cuts.. see below. http://d3cfki0l5o2ps6.cloudfront.net/media/wysiwyg/special-content/MK8-black-background-1.jpg They look to be leaving much more material behind. Is this to reduce machine time and cost? I do not care for the cut outs in this pic. I much prefer the look of the original design. We made the cuts squareish to go along with the rectangular M-LOK aperture. We can always do the other openings with the slim diagonal if thats what people want. Let us know once you see some more pictures of the rails out there NO! The original square/oval cuts from the early rails is exactly what I want back. I am not fond of the diagonal "pears", they clash with the rest of the openings on the side and upper portions. The only reason we changed from the Mod 0 cuts was the fact that your finger could get stuck in the cutout or your finger could enter the cut and get burned. Is this really an issue? |
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The only reason we changed from the Mod 0 cuts was the fact that your finger could get stuck in the cutout or your finger could enter the cut and get burned. Is this really an issue? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Just wondering why you guys have changed the design of your cuts.. see below. http://d3cfki0l5o2ps6.cloudfront.net/media/wysiwyg/special-content/MK8-black-background-1.jpg They look to be leaving much more material behind. Is this to reduce machine time and cost? I do not care for the cut outs in this pic. I much prefer the look of the original design. We made the cuts squareish to go along with the rectangular M-LOK aperture. We can always do the other openings with the slim diagonal if thats what people want. Let us know once you see some more pictures of the rails out there NO! The original square/oval cuts from the early rails is exactly what I want back. I am not fond of the diagonal "pears", they clash with the rest of the openings on the side and upper portions. The only reason we changed from the Mod 0 cuts was the fact that your finger could get stuck in the cutout or your finger could enter the cut and get burned. Is this really an issue? I guess that depends on the end user. For me, using a Mk1 with the Mod 0 cuts on an SPR type rifle the issue of finger burning wouldn't really come to mind. Maybe on a shorter carbine running a can, or where you're doing high volumes of fire while ninja rolling, I'd see it maybe being an issue if you prefer not to wear gloves. Personally, I always wear some Mechanix gloves, as I run a can on an SBR and the area where I usually grip the rail/vfg gets pretty hot. Right now I have the DD Mk18 rail, but have been eyeballing a 9.5" SMR for some time as it needs to be that length to clear my suppressor mount. Also eyeballing the M-LOK thing as Keymod just hasn't really floated my boat. In any case, you run a very, very busy machine shop. I understand that in order to keep things flowing smoothly, products need to be standardized. If you guys just need the lower cuts to be the same across the board, so be it. Whatever helps you guys deliver the products on time with the quality folks have come to expect takes priority over tastes in visual appearance That being said though, is there a way to sneak in limited runs once a year or so of the "Mod 0" cuts, for those with that preference? I can't begin to tell you how much I still want the original Mk1 Mod0 in 13" and 15" offerings. |
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While I like the cutouts of the MK4 better, either way I plan on purchasing a MK8.
Will the MK8 work with a MK4 barrel nut? I ask because I'm lazy and don't want to have to remove the barrel nut on one of my builds if I can get by with just slipping the MK8 rail onto it. |
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While I like the cutouts of the MK4 better, either way I plan on purchasing a MK8. Will the MK8 work with a MK4 barrel nut? I ask because I'm lazy and don't want to have to remove the barrel nut on one of my builds if I can get by with just slipping the MK8 rail onto it. View Quote It will no problem |
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While I like the cutouts of the MK4 better, either way I plan on purchasing a MK8. Will the MK8 work with a MK4 barrel nut? I ask because I'm lazy and don't want to have to remove the barrel nut on one of my builds if I can get by with just slipping the MK8 rail onto it. It will no problem Excellent. Will I be able to get my hands on a 9.5" MK8 prior to Cola Warrior? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Looks like a great rail. I like the square holes on the bottom better too.
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I wonder how much this is going to cost since the M-LOK is cheaper to make vs Keymod, and I also wonder how light it will be?
Looking forward to it either way.
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Don't like the squares, like the triangular ones the best. Aside from liking the non-square better I do think burning your fingers is a valid issue.
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I like the rail exactly as shown in the prototype images. The square holes look boss.
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Being such a nice guy I'm willing to take a MK8 with the non square cuts off your hands if you have a 9.5" one laying around. No sense trying to sell it to someone else if you are going to produce the square cut version.
(I will take either version provided I can get it in the next couple weeks to assemble in time for CW4) Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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I like the rail exactly as shown in the prototype images. The square holes look boss. Agreed. Geissele guys, Any word on weight yet? It will be exactly the same as the MK4 per CAD. That not with any accessories. And if I remember correctly that was the Mod 0 MK4 |
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I like the rail exactly as shown in the prototype images. The square holes look boss. Agreed. Geissele guys, Any word on weight yet? It will be exactly the same as the MK4 per CAD. That not with any accessories. And if I remember correctly that was the Mod 0 MK4 Sooooo, eta? |
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Will you be making a m-lok for th ar10? I like the oblong holes better!
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Hey i like the square cuts but either way, square or pear, at least it's not c0ck n balls all over the rail! ( Down to key mod!)
Eta on these things? Perhaps one in stealth grey? |
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Actually it would be nice if you just produced the 20 different types of handguards you already sell. I tried to buy several in April and couldnt because every MK model I wanted was out of stock, thats consistent. Dont produce yet another until you can fulfill what you have please.
I just checked today and you are out of 69% of your handguards at this time. Thats a real kicker for us who want to support you. |
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Quoted: Actually it would be nice if you just produced the 20 different types of handguards you already sell. I tried to buy several in April and couldnt because every MK model I wanted was out of stock, thats consistent. Dont produce yet another until you can fulfill what you have please. I just checked today and you are out of 69% of your handguards at this time. Thats a real kicker for us who want to support you. View Quote Just my opinion but I'd rather see the MK8 than any other right now. You can find most of the MK1-4s online if you look hard enough. I don’t know about the MK5s because I don't care about keymod.
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Quoted: Actually it would be nice if you just produced the 20 different types of handguards you already sell. I tried to buy several in April and couldnt because every MK model I wanted was out of stock, thats consistent. Dont produce yet another until you can fulfill what you have please. I just checked today and you are out of 69% of your handguards at this time. Thats a real kicker for us who want to support you. View Quote Which rail are you looking for?
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Actually it would be nice if you just produced the 20 different types of handguards you already sell. I tried to buy several in April and couldnt because every MK model I wanted was out of stock, thats consistent. Dont produce yet another until you can fulfill what you have please. I just checked today and you are out of 69% of your handguards at this time. Thats a real kicker for us who want to support you. Which rail are you looking for? I went to another manufacturer because none of the Mk.2, 4 or 5 in a 9.5" were available for some time and I was also looking for the 10 and 10.5" handguards. It's like the super scar triggers but they were eventually produced in higher quantities and became available. Great products but finding some of them is next to impossible. |
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Sagmill will correct me if I'm wrong but I believe the MK8 is made from extruded 6061 aluminum and is not billet. Should I keep my MK8 under plexiglass too? I don't trust the wife... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Sagmill will correct me if I'm wrong but I believe the MK8 is made from extruded 6061 aluminum and is not billet. Should I keep my MK8 under plexiglass too? I don't trust the wife... An extrusion? did not know that.....that would make a heck of a you tube video.... The idea that a big ole chunk of Al gets machined into something intricate still fascinates me... Got the MK4 out today trying to figure out which upper to build with it....;) |
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I thought they were all extruded. Making them from billet would be insane.
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I've got a MK8 I just built up on a test gun for demos, etc. It's built to exactly the same standards as every other Geissele product...perfection.
It is my 16th Geissele handguard, beginning with a pre-production HK416 10.5 variant. I couldn't be happier with any of them, and am really liking the MK8 (obviously, I have a close connection to that particular variant). I think people are really going to like M-LOK, and I can't imagine a better way to get into the system than a Geissele handguard. FWIW, that block of AL is one we use at all the trade shows. I could have told you what it was going to be at some point, but I forgot. I believe it was also the pedestal for the launch of the 25LR at SHOT 2013 and various other products. |
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So you're saying I didn't get the first one made?
I called dibs on the first page, man. |
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We had a few before the world knew they existed...sorry man
Good news is, many of them were used for destructive-type testing. They held up so well we were still able to use them to show folks at the NRA show. That's a testament to Geissele design and engineering. |
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