Author
Message
bobapunk
Offline
Posts: 1767
Feedback: 100% (1)
Posted: 7/14/2011 11:05:26 AM
I have a Scout Light mounted with a Gear Sector Mount to an Ultimak gas tube rail on an Yugo Underfolder AK.

Since that expatiation might be hard to follow, here is a picture:





It works pretty well as it but since the light is so far back, the front sight creates a shadow.

A mount that clamped onto the Ultimak, and then doglegged forward and to the left, with the Scout on it would either solve or at least mitigate this issue.

Are there any plans for a mount like that in the works? Or is there another mount out there that would work?

Thanks.
skebe
Meat Popsicle.
Offline
Posts: 3146
Feedback: 0% (0)
Link To This Post
Posted: 7/30/2011 8:42:53 PM
I could use something like that as well!
Among all the secret defenses the body uses to show courage, the true secret is the mind

Ohkuni Kihei Shigenobu
13th Soke of Kukishin-ryu
4th Soke of Takagi Yoshin-ryu
MOUNT-N-SLOT
Partner
Offline
Posts: 320
Feedback: 0% (0)
Link To This Post
Posted: 7/30/2011 10:25:59 PM
IWC's finalizing design of a new mount product line... for 1913 Rails. But we're at least 6 months away. These are not your normal mounts anyone can make using a cross bolt. IWC's will solve a lot of problems at a great value point.

Your rifle does present a problem because of the gap between the rail and the FSB. Let me look into it.


MOUNT-N-SLOT
MOUNT-N-SLOT brand Direct Attach Mounts
www.impactweaponscomponents.com
sales@impactweaponscomponents.com
bobapunk
Offline
Posts: 1790
Feedback: 100% (1)
Link To This Post
Posted: 8/5/2011 8:53:51 AM
[Last Edit: 8/5/2011 8:54:32 AM by bobapunk]
Originally Posted By MOUNT-N-SLOT:
IWC's finalizing design of a new mount product line... for 1913 Rails. But we're at least 6 months away. These are not your normal mounts anyone can make using a cross bolt. IWC's will solve a lot of problems at a great value point.

Your rifle does present a problem because of the gap between the rail and the FSB. Let me look into it.


MOUNT-N-SLOT


Thanks!

I thought I remember reading that 1913 mounts were in the works. I am happy to hear that you are still working on it.

My rifle config does present some issues. I could solve them by Dremmeling off the grenade sight, but I am not quite ready to go that far yet...

If I can be of any help, let me know!
skebe
Meat Popsicle.
Offline
Posts: 3454
Feedback: 0% (0)
Link To This Post
Posted: 11/23/2011 11:39:56 PM
http://www.haleystrategic.com/adaptive_weapons_manipulation/adaptive_light_mounts.php

Is this it?

Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile
Among all the secret defenses the body uses to show courage, the true secret is the mind

Ohkuni Kihei Shigenobu
13th Soke of Kukishin-ryu
4th Soke of Takagi Yoshin-ryu
MOUNT-N-SLOT
Partner
Offline
Posts: 371
Feedback: 0% (0)
Link To This Post
Posted: 11/24/2011 12:40:21 AM
Originally Posted By skebe:
http://www.haleystrategic.com/adaptive_weapons_manipulation/adaptive_light_mounts.php

Is this it?

Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile


Yep... the Thorntail...
MOUNT-N-SLOT brand Direct Attach Mounts
www.impactweaponscomponents.com
sales@impactweaponscomponents.com
Lancelot
Member
Military
Offline
Posts: 14350
Feedback: 100% (7)
Link To This Post
Posted: 11/24/2011 1:30:49 PM
MOUNT-N-SLOT
Partner
Offline
Posts: 372
Feedback: 0% (0)
Link To This Post
Posted: 11/25/2011 12:33:29 AM
[Last Edit: 11/25/2011 12:34:07 AM by MOUNT-N-SLOT]






THORNTAIL by Haley Strategic Partners and Impact Weapons Components
MOUNT-N-SLOT brand Direct Attach Mounts
www.impactweaponscomponents.com
sales@impactweaponscomponents.com
bobapunk
Offline
Posts: 1859
Feedback: 100% (1)
Link To This Post
Posted: 11/27/2011 11:50:23 AM
[Last Edit: 11/27/2011 12:01:49 PM by bobapunk]
Awesome!

Are these reversible? For my application I need it to mount on the top rail and hold the light to the left of the front sight.

OK, after further reading, this image shows how I need to mount the light on my AK. However, I would like to verify that this mounting setup is possible and this image is not a mirror flip or anything.



Thanks!
MOUNT-N-SLOT
Partner
Offline
Posts: 379
Feedback: 0% (0)
Link To This Post
Posted: 11/27/2011 12:06:58 PM
Originally Posted By bobapunk:
Awesome!

Are these reversible? For my application I need it to mount on the top rail and hold the light to the left of the front sight.

OK, after further reading, this image shows how I need to mount the light on my AK. However, I would like to verify that this mounting setup is possible and this image is not a mirror flip or anything.

http://soldiersystems.net/blog1/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/HSP-thorn-light-mount.jpg

Thanks!


Hi bobapunk,

Both DROPWING and THORNTAIL are fully AMBI and reversible. I'll have some pics up later today showing THORNTAIL mounted on either side of IWC's LMT MRP CQB. Order yours with confidence today...

MOUNT-N-SLOT
MOUNT-N-SLOT brand Direct Attach Mounts
www.impactweaponscomponents.com
sales@impactweaponscomponents.com
bobapunk
Offline
Posts: 1861
Feedback: 100% (1)
Link To This Post
Posted: 11/27/2011 12:10:05 PM
Originally Posted By MOUNT-N-SLOT:
Originally Posted By bobapunk:
Awesome!

Are these reversible? For my application I need it to mount on the top rail and hold the light to the left of the front sight.

OK, after further reading, this image shows how I need to mount the light on my AK. However, I would like to verify that this mounting setup is possible and this image is not a mirror flip or anything.

http://soldiersystems.net/blog1/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/HSP-thorn-light-mount.jpg

Thanks!


Hi bobapunk,

Both DROPWING and THORNTAIL are fully AMBI and reversible. I'll have some pics up later today showing THORNTAIL mounted on either side of IWC's LMT MRP CQB. Order yours with confidence today...

MOUNT-N-SLOT


Thanks! So does the arm that the Scout mounts to screw onto the rail clamp?

MOUNT-N-SLOT
Partner
Offline
Posts: 380
Feedback: 0% (0)
Link To This Post
Posted: 11/27/2011 6:32:26 PM
So does the arm that the Scout mounts to screw onto the rail clamp?

Hi bobapunk,



#8 pass thru #2 & the recoil slots in the 1813 rail and thread into #3. #3 is threaded on both sides, making it ambi.

We think it's a really innovative approach to a mount and have filed patents to protect it.

MOUNT-N-SLOT
MOUNT-N-SLOT brand Direct Attach Mounts
www.impactweaponscomponents.com
sales@impactweaponscomponents.com
bobapunk
Offline
Posts: 1862
Feedback: 100% (1)
Link To This Post
Posted: 11/27/2011 11:40:33 PM
That is really ingenious! Good luck with the patents!
MOUNT-N-SLOT
Partner
Offline
Posts: 386
Feedback: 0% (0)
Link To This Post
Posted: 12/7/2011 9:25:31 AM
Read the review of THORNTAIL on "Jerking The Trigger"

MOUNT-N-SLOT
MOUNT-N-SLOT brand Direct Attach Mounts
www.impactweaponscomponents.com
sales@impactweaponscomponents.com
bobapunk
Offline
Posts: 1879
Feedback: 100% (1)
Link To This Post
Posted: 12/19/2011 7:50:30 AM
[Last Edit: 12/19/2011 8:04:59 AM by bobapunk]
Are these shipping from anywhere yet?

You website says that they are not going to be in-stock for another 9 days.

Can anyone confirm if this mount will fit over the Yugo folding grenade sight without modification to the mount or the sight?

Thanks
MOUNT-N-SLOT
Partner
Offline
Posts: 400
Feedback: 0% (0)
Link To This Post
Posted: 12/19/2011 11:50:10 AM
Originally Posted By bobapunk:
Are these shipping from anywhere yet?

You website says that they are not going to be in-stock for another 9 days.

Can anyone confirm if this mount will fit over the Yugo folding grenade sight without modification to the mount or the sight?

Thanks


Post a pic of the area of the rifle where THORNTAIL would mount.

All versions will be up on IWC and are shipping this week.

MOUNT-N-SLOT
MOUNT-N-SLOT brand Direct Attach Mounts
www.impactweaponscomponents.com
sales@impactweaponscomponents.com
bobapunk
Offline
Posts: 1880
Feedback: 100% (1)
Link To This Post
Posted: 12/19/2011 9:38:26 PM
I posted some pics in the OP. I'll try to get some clear close ups, if it will help.
bobapunk
Offline
Posts: 1881
Feedback: 100% (1)
Link To This Post
Posted: 12/20/2011 7:55:45 AM
Hopefully these photos will help:


Bottom, non-ejection port side, looking at an upward angle


Top, ejection port side, looking at a downward angle


Front, muzzle looking toward receiver

I am a little concerned about having enough clearance between the bezel of the light and the grenade sight. I don't need the grenade sight to be able to be flipped up, I just want the light to fit without touching it.

Thanks!

MOUNT-N-SLOT
Partner
Offline
Posts: 403
Feedback: 0% (0)
Link To This Post
Posted: 12/20/2011 11:20:54 AM
I am a little concerned about having enough clearance between the bezel of the light and the grenade sight. I don't need the grenade sight to be able to be flipped up, I just want the light to fit without touching it.

Thanks!

Thanks for the pics!

THORNTAIL's cantilevered mounting arm makes contact with the rail all the way forward to where the Scout Light attaches, which would occupy the same surface your grenade sight does. So it will not work.

Sorry!!!

MOUNT-N-SLOT

MOUNT-N-SLOT brand Direct Attach Mounts
www.impactweaponscomponents.com
sales@impactweaponscomponents.com
bobapunk
Offline
Posts: 1882
Feedback: 100% (1)
Link To This Post
Posted: 12/20/2011 7:54:44 PM
ARRRRGHHH!!!!!!

Wow, I might have to cut this grenade sight down after all....
GuyinFL
Offline
Posts: 65
Feedback: 100% (1)
Link To This Post
Posted: 12/23/2011 1:47:08 PM
I ordered a Thorntail a few weeks ago. I'm so excited to get this thing, especially after seeing it mounted on the 12:00 rail but still placing the light out in front at 11:00. Absolutely perfect.