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Posted: 1/25/2016 10:09:59 PM EDT
When is the NEW m4v7 shipping to dealers?
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Will I be able to update my older v7 like the new one by swapping the rail? Or are there other things need to be done. Not counting the stock or any internal parts. Mainly outward appearance , gas block, tube. I am not as big on the older mfr as I used to be. Thanks.
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Will I be able to update my older v7 like the new one by swapping the rail? Or are there other things need to be done. Not counting the stock or any internal parts. Mainly outward appearance , gas block, tube. I am not as big on the older mfr as I used to be. Thanks. View Quote You'll be able to swap the rail out. the new MFR XS has a different barrel nut than the old MFR, so you'll have to pull off your gas block and flash hider in order to swap everything out. |
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You'll be able to swap the rail out. the new MFR XS has a different barrel nut than the old MFR, so you'll have to pull off your gas block and flash hider in order to swap everything out. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Will I be able to update my older v7 like the new one by swapping the rail? Or are there other things need to be done. Not counting the stock or any internal parts. Mainly outward appearance , gas block, tube. I am not as big on the older mfr as I used to be. Thanks. You'll be able to swap the rail out. the new MFR XS has a different barrel nut than the old MFR, so you'll have to pull off your gas block and flash hider in order to swap everything out. That is good news. Not a problem. Is there a price on just the rail kit yet? I haven't checked the site yet, wanted to know if it would work first. One more question, will the light weight have the same rail and just go with a slimmer bbl? |
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I changed out my factory v7 rail for the later factory slim rail; love it http://digitalsimple.com/eames/0208/IMG_0719.JPG View Quote That is exactly the look I am after. Nice, thanks for the pic. |
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That is exactly the look I am after. Nice, thanks for the pic. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I changed out my factory v7 rail for the later factory slim rail; love it http://digitalsimple.com/eames/0208/IMG_0719.JPG That is exactly the look I am after. Nice, thanks for the pic. There is a slim 15" for sale in the ee. I can't remember if it was the new or old upper section. |
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There is a slim 15" for sale in the ee. I can't remember if it was the new or old upper section. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I changed out my factory v7 rail for the later factory slim rail; love it http://digitalsimple.com/eames/0208/IMG_0719.JPG That is exactly the look I am after. Nice, thanks for the pic. There is a slim 15" for sale in the ee. I can't remember if it was the new or old upper section. Did you use the same barrel nut or did it have to be changed? The new version v7 has a new bbl nut design. |
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The old MFR Rail had it's own very unique barrel nut that wasn't usable for any other rail system.
Current Rail systems (DDM4 Rail, SLiM Rail, RIS II, and soon to be MFR XS) will all use the same barrel nut. The DDM4 Rail and SLiM Rail acutally share the same Bolt-Up Plate which makes going from one to the other very easy. The RIS II and MFR XS will have their own Bolt Up Plates. Long Story Short, if anyone has a DDM4 Rail Or SLiM rail and wants to put the new MFR XS on their rifle, it's going to require removing everything from the barrel in order to install the new mounting hardware. |
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The old MFR Rail had it's own very unique barrel nut that wasn't usable for any other rail system. Current Rail systems (DDM4 Rail, SLiM Rail, RIS II, and soon to be MFR XS) will all use the same barrel nut. The DDM4 Rail and SLiM Rail acutally share the same Bolt-Up Plate which makes going from one to the other very easy. The RIS II and MFR XS will have their own Bolt Up Plates. Long Story Short, if anyone has a DDM4 Rail Or SLiM rail and wants to put the new MFR XS on their rifle, it's going to require removing everything from the barrel in order to install the new mounting hardware. View Quote ok thanks, I am guessing the bbl nut will come with each new rail sold. |
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ok thanks, I am guessing the bbl nut will come with each new rail sold. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The old MFR Rail had it's own very unique barrel nut that wasn't usable for any other rail system. Current Rail systems (DDM4 Rail, SLiM Rail, RIS II, and soon to be MFR XS) will all use the same barrel nut. The DDM4 Rail and SLiM Rail acutally share the same Bolt-Up Plate which makes going from one to the other very easy. The RIS II and MFR XS will have their own Bolt Up Plates. Long Story Short, if anyone has a DDM4 Rail Or SLiM rail and wants to put the new MFR XS on their rifle, it's going to require removing everything from the barrel in order to install the new mounting hardware. ok thanks, I am guessing the bbl nut will come with each new rail sold. Correct. If any of our rail systems require a proprietary barrel nut, they are included with the rail along with any required mounting hardware and barrel nut wrench. |
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Correct. If any of our rail systems require a proprietary barrel nut, they are included with the rail along with any required mounting hardware and barrel nut wrench. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The old MFR Rail had it's own very unique barrel nut that wasn't usable for any other rail system. Current Rail systems (DDM4 Rail, SLiM Rail, RIS II, and soon to be MFR XS) will all use the same barrel nut. The DDM4 Rail and SLiM Rail acutally share the same Bolt-Up Plate which makes going from one to the other very easy. The RIS II and MFR XS will have their own Bolt Up Plates. Long Story Short, if anyone has a DDM4 Rail Or SLiM rail and wants to put the new MFR XS on their rifle, it's going to require removing everything from the barrel in order to install the new mounting hardware. ok thanks, I am guessing the bbl nut will come with each new rail sold. Correct. If any of our rail systems require a proprietary barrel nut, they are included with the rail along with any required mounting hardware and barrel nut wrench. Ok, Thanks for simplifying everything sir. Last question. If this on the website just let me know and I will go there. The weight of the slim Rail vs the MFR XS, which one is the lightest. Or is it so min it is not worth mentioning? |
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Quoted: Did you use the same barrel nut or did it have to be changed? The new version v7 has a new bbl nut design. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I changed out my factory v7 rail for the later factory slim rail; love it http://digitalsimple.com/eames/0208/IMG_0719.JPG That is exactly the look I am after. Nice, thanks for the pic. There is a slim 15" for sale in the ee. I can't remember if it was the new or old upper section. Did you use the same barrel nut or did it have to be changed? The new version v7 has a new bbl nut design. |
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Sorry if I missed it but what is the weight on a LW with the new rail?
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Will the DD5 ever be offered with a 12" MLOK rail?
Will the V7 be offered with a 14.5" LW mid-length barrel? |
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Seen a Cabelas ad that has the new V7 in it for $100 off. Might be a Memorial Day thing
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Says in stock now for $1519. I wish Daniel would sell these for 12-1300. I'd be all over one. 1500 is a bit steep
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I just think they are missing out on a lot of sales. I think there is a lot of people out their like me. Willing to pay $1200-1300, but 1500 ? That's getting up there. Especially if you already have a few rifles. 1st time buyer, not bad. Atleast include some sights for that price
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I just think they are missing out on a lot of sales. I think there is a lot of people out their like me. Willing to pay $1200-1300, but 1500 ? That's getting up there. Especially if you already have a few rifles. 1st time buyer, not bad. Atleast include some sights for that price View Quote Plenty of people don't have the problem of saving another 200-300 bucks. |
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Well, the DD lower is nothing special. So when people can build the same rifle for $1000, why buy the DD for $1500 plus shipping or Tax ?
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Having owned one, the fit and finish was very nice, and the flared mag well was a nice feature. Other than a matching gun though, there's nothing it can do that a quality forged one can't. Nothing propertietary. So really it's nothing special. Just quality.
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Well, I had a DD at one time. The lower was no more special than any other. As a matter of fact, I thought my Sig lower was better as well as my Pws. I also have a Spikes. Also, the DD I had to use a punch to disassemble the gun the pins were off a little or too big. You DD fan boys crack me up
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Proud fanboy here! Let me know when Spikes or Anderson replace their lowers after YOU strip the grips screw.
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Does anyone know if they'll be offering the M4V7 in Kryptek Typhon like they do for the M4V11?
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[#36]
Same old song and dance, cannot justify the 200 $ difference don't buy it, but do not put it down.Top shelf production vs mass production with less QC and tolerances. I consider DD as a custom production. Not a mass production. Worth every bit of 200 to 300. bucks in my opinion. YMMV. I own two and they are top notch.
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I have to disagree. If they were so top shelf and custom, I wouldn't have got a lemon a couple years ago. Now I know I could have just got a bad one, but I honestly didn't see any difference between the Sig I had also bought.
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I have to disagree. If they were so top shelf and custom, I wouldn't have got a lemon a couple years ago. Now I know I could have just got a bad one, but I honestly didn't see any difference between the Sig I had also bought. View Quote Yup.. you got a bad one. It happens.. happens to the best of products: Boeing, Porche, etc and yes, even Daniel Defense. Nobody is perfect, but there's a far greater likelihood of receiving a quality product from a company with a proven track record for quality. Also, Daniel Defense has a rock solid reputation for swiftly taking care of any issues that do happen to occur with one of their products. This counts for a lot with many. I too, own a sizeable number of SIGs, including a 516. The main two reasons I bought it was for SIG's reputation for also putting out quality firearms and that it was a piston rifle. Now, if I had to make a choice between a SIG and a DD AR, I would readily take the DD rifle. |
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I hear you, I actually asked for a refund after 2 problems and was told no. That's not exactly the awesome customer service I think of. So I sold it on armslist. After I had a guy Cerakote the terrible paint job Daniel put on.
Just saying, don't think Daniel doesn't put out bad rifle like any other company. I also work for Boeing. Trust me, some of the people they hire ? Makes me wonder how planes even make it off the runway ! |
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I hear you, I actually asked for a refund after 2 problems and was told no. That's not exactly the awesome customer service I think of. So I sold it on armslist. After I had a guy Cerakote the terrible paint job Daniel put on. Just saying, don't think Daniel doesn't put out bad rifle like any other company. I also work for Boeing. Trust me, some of the people they hire ? Makes me wonder how planes even make it off the runway ! View Quote I'm sorry for your past rifle experience. Lol.. I hear you about questionable employees. I worked for about a year for L3 which had a contract to do post deployment phase maintenance on UH-60s, CH-47s as well as providing direct unit support for AH-64s. There were some guys that we worried about when they were just riding a bicycle on the flight line going from hangar to hangar. |
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I also worked for L3, they hired some real winners to work for $14,000 a month. Guys that I would want to tie their own shoes.
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Had one in the shop for about two days before it sold. Daniels are easy to move at normal dealer prices, just have to know why they cost more.
It gets tough when I've got the DI LWRCI IC next to it for about the same money (within $100). |
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All I am sayin is my own experience is DD is a quality product. I own Sig's as well. But I will not lump DD in with 98% of AR mfgs on the market. Apparently the military thinks so too. Not saying that is the end all but it sure stands on its own. I have 2 DD and the only thing I am not liking is the older V7 MFR and want to change it for a updated version. No disrespect to you or your opinion. You had a bad experience, sold it to someone else and moved on. No problems.
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I actually like the slick tube of the v7. I doubt it has much of a secondary market value. I was thinking of SBR'ing my v7 before 41f, and was thinking of cutting down the handguard to fit a 12" larue barrel vs. using the 12.5" DD barrel which should clear, but will be more expensive on the barrel. What color is your rail?
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I liked the slick handgaurd to. I had one and sold it cause of problems. I just hate that a company comes out with a design and people buy it. Then a couple years later they discontinue it and all the people are screwed. No accessories now. Who's to say in a few years they do it again.
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I liked the slick handgaurd to. I had one and sold it cause of problems. I just hate that a company comes out with a design and people buy it. Then a couple years later they discontinue it and all the people are screwed. No accessories now. Who's to say in a few years they do it again. View Quote how is anyone screwed? it literally comes with 3 pic rails to attach, guess what, picatinny accessories! picatinny isnt going anywhere |
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Those are proprietary pic rails dude. For the V7 holes. You now have to see if Daniel has any left. No other stores carry them anymore. That's what I'm saying
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Those are proprietary pic rails dude. For the V7 holes. You now have to see if Daniel has any left. No other stores carry them anymore. That's what I'm saying View Quote We have plenty of these still available for customer that still want/need picatinny rail sections for their legacy MFR Rails. I doubt we'll run out anytime soon. |
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I am a big DD fan but I will have to agree with the statement made above about the lower ..... Its a solid milspec lower with a good finish but there is nothing "special" about them
They are on par with other quality milspec lowers (Spikes, Aero, etc) ..... The DD lower offers no additional features over a plain jane lower because that's what it is Ambi features aren't a must but they are nice to have like on the KAC and LWRC rifles |
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