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Posted: 10/9/2010 11:02:11 PM EDT
Come on guys. Tell me this guy doesn't reflect your views of the members this site... I wouldn't have even heard of DD if not for this site.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CU5Y5aDdlc GD thread on video |
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So we're all just a bunch of Sponge Bob watching, laser jet printer fixing ass clowns? |
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Come on guys. Don't tell me this guy reflects your views of this site... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CU5Y5aDdlc GD thread on video that is a pretty weak statement that he made. He basically states that everybody on ARFCOM is an ass. He thinks he is better and superior to all other people and especially targets the people that frequent ARFCOM. He stated that you DD does not treat there Customers like sh.... but I guess you prefer to treat and call everybody that is on ARFCOM idiots or ass. For me you and LAV will never see a cent of my money. I sure look forward how you will spin this. |
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He thinks he is better and superior to all other people and especially targets the people that frequent ARFCOM. From a purely objective standpoint, his knowledge base is massive, and his experience/resume is extremely impressive. |
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I was uninspired to spend money on DD product after watching that piece of marketing.
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So we're all just a bunch of Sponge Bob watching, laser jet printer fixing ass clowns? You're going to make this awkward, aren't you. |
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He thinks he is better and superior to all other people and especially targets the people that frequent ARFCOM. From a purely objective standpoint, his knowledge base is massive, and his experience/resume is extremely impressive. Unfortunately it seems his personality leaves a great deal to be desired. I think Daniel Defense would be best served by finding themselves another spokesman. DD would be unknown to me if it weren't for AR15.com. This. Extremely classless on the part of DD for even allowing this video to be uploaded. I'll be looking elsewhere. |
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I was uninspired to spend money on DD product after watching that piece of marketing. Calling it a "Piece of Marketing" is being pretty generous... |
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I was uninspired to spend money on DD product after watching that piece of marketing. Calling it a "Piece of Marketing" is being pretty generous... I've never seen a manufacturer come out with a "hit piece" on a forum before. This is a first. I am very disappoint. That's because it's usually not public. You think it's coincidence that people from Colt or FN don't speak publicly here? Most of the industry people who actually KNEW something have been run off by the peanut gallery, leaving people who generally don't know WTF they're talking about to rule the roost. |
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I was uninspired to spend money on DD product after watching that piece of marketing. Calling it a "Piece of Marketing" is being pretty generous... I've never seen a manufacturer come out with a "hit piece" on a forum before. This is a first. I am very disappoint. That's because it's usually not public. You think it's coincidence that people from Colt or FN don't speak publicly here? Most of the industry people who actually KNEW something has been run off by the peanut gallery here, leaving people who generally don't know WTF they're talking about to rule the roost. If you look back to 05-06 and see who was posting here - and the depth of the knowledge they brought - it's pretty sad. |
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Couple years back,rhis guy was shooting a 57carbine. The camera guy was freakin at this guys 1oclock.
Wtf? When I brought it up,guys were like:well he's larry he knows what he's doing... I don't care who you are,you aint gonna shoot over my head unless bg's are shooting right back. ETA: I am a vet and when I saw that guys were like: don't you trust him? Yeah in a firefight sure. But not in a freakin tv show. EETA : this was not a remote camera. |
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I'm guessing the industry folks are not awake right now. However; right about now would be a good time for some damage control.
Shit, gotta go, someone just broke the printer. |
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I was uninspired to spend money on DD product after watching that piece of marketing. Calling it a "Piece of Marketing" is being pretty generous... I've never seen a manufacturer come out with a "hit piece" on a forum before. This is a first. I am very disappoint. That's because it's usually not public. You think it's coincidence that people from Colt or FN don't speak publicly here? Most of the industry people who actually KNEW something has been run off by the peanut gallery here, leaving people who generally don't know WTF they're talking about to rule the roost. If you look back to 05-06 and see who was posting here - and the depth of the knowledge they brought - it's pretty sad. come please stop defending him. Even if this is the case he made this statement not back than he made it recently, In addition he does not know everybody that is on here. He has for sure no clue who I am and what I do or know. So to make an ass-umption that everybody that spends some time on ARFCOM is a f' ass is just wrong and stupid of him. He is just way out of line to use this BS in a Commercial geared towards perhaps new Customers or even expand the existing customer base. Way to go and way to stay classy. I bring all this up for you to differentiate me from the guy who repairs Laser Jet Printers during the day secretly watches Sponge Bob during the evening and spends half the night arguing with other f... ass clowns on ARFCOM. I might actually know what I am talking about. brought to you by LAV
Basically what he says is people that work for a living are not worthy and just a bunch of idiots. |
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I was uninspired to spend money on DD product after watching that piece of marketing. Calling it a "Piece of Marketing" is being pretty generous... I've never seen a manufacturer come out with a "hit piece" on a forum before. This is a first. I am very disappoint. That's because it's usually not public. You think it's coincidence that people from Colt or FN don't speak publicly here? Most of the industry people who actually KNEW something has been run off by the peanut gallery here, leaving people who generally don't know WTF they're talking about to rule the roost. If you look back to 05-06 and see who was posting here - and the depth of the knowledge they brought - it's pretty sad. come please stop defending him. Even if this is the case he made this statement not back than he made it recently, In addition he does not know everybody that is on here. He has for sure no clue who I am and what I do or know. So to make an ass-umption that everybody that spends some time on ARFCOM is a f' ass is just wrong and stupid of him. He is just way out of line to use this BS in a Commercial geared towards perhaps new Customers or even expand the existing customer base. Way to go and way to stay classy. I bring all this up for you to differentiate me from the guy who repairs Laser Jet Printers during the day secretly watches Sponge Bob during the evening and spends half the night arguing with other f... ass clowns on ARFCOM. I might actually know what I am talking about. brought to you by LAV
Basically what he says is people that work for a living are not worthy and just a bunch of idiots. What I said were simple facts: - His opinion carries weight - This site has lost a large number of SMEs I am obviously a supporter and fan of AR15.com - or I would not have posted here 30,000 times - but did not take that statement to be as offensive as some here have taken it. The fact that this forum is so "open arms" is a double edged sword. Everyone is welcome to contribute - but sometimes the contribution is a steaming load of BS in a tech forum, and all too often it goes unchallenged by those with authority here. To be fair, they have their hands full keeping a massive "customer" base in line from a conduct standpoint only. Thus, the forum gains a poor reputation among many SMEs. |
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Lighten up, it's just a forum. You really don't have bigger things to worry about in life?
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Whats our October discount code this month?
Is it "assclown"? |
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what crappy marketing... i know, lets insult the people who buy our products
makes perfect sense.
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As someone that has been on this site for nearly a decade and has seen the directions this site has gone, someone that carries firearms for a living as an LEO, I applaud Larry for his views, and will be purchasing DD rail products in the near future. Assclowns on this site are like the obnoxious drunk in the bar. Yes, they're spending money, but they're driving all the rest of the customers away. Many other members and potential members here fit in that catagory.
It's refreshing to see them called out, and unfortunate that so many of the common man of the rest of the members are wanting to assiciate themselves with those assclowns, and lower themselves. LAV has earned the right. Assclowns have not. Anyone whining about his physique should go ahead and do what he's done, and see not only if they can, but when their bodies wear out. Good on LAV, good on Daniel Defense, and hopefully good on AR15.com for recognizing the differences. |
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Assclowns on arfcom . . . . Noooooo cant be . . . . NEVER!
But was he incorrect? DD still makes the best rails on the market and didn't the spongebob watching ass clowns on arfcom dismiss the D.D. rifle as ugly? Arfcom's armchair commandos who pontificate on knowlege they have no knowlege of is legendary. Its a great forum but the RKIs have been run off by members and others. |
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The guy knows what he's about. And he knows that the vast majority of guys with big opinions here are chairborne rangers...
The truth hurts. Change the perceptions and this will not happen. I'm in total agreement with LAV and I still love my DD rails. |
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LAV is being paid to make those comments. If he was fired tomorrow and hired by LaRue, Colt, BM or other manuf, he would be saying the same thing. His arrogance will be his downfall. He was a Spec Warfare Operator. Whoopie. There are thousands of operators and they all have opinions.
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Boy, people sure like to get their panties in a wad easily.
Are you guys attacking Vickers telling me there AREN'T assclowns on ar15.com that argue about stupid shit from an ignorant POV? |
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WTF is a LAV? Lavatory or Larry A. Vickers. Both have a purpose and at times are full of it. |
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i don't see a problem here. he's comparing this site to HIMSELF. basically verifying his credentials and saying he's not an internet commando. admittedly, DD should have reviewed it as it's a bit brash, but everything he says about DD is true and i will continue to buy DD products. as long as he's not lying, it's all good.
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He thinks he is better and superior to all other people and especially targets the people that frequent ARFCOM. From a purely objective standpoint, his knowledge base is massive, and his experience/resume is extremely impressive. That is true, however, there are many combat vets that post on this site, myself included, and the comment was ignorant and condescending. He came off an an arrogant ass. While he may have the creds to back up that attitude, you don't talk that way about your customer base. |
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Have you been on GD? What exactly was ignorant about it? There are plenty of people that have no clue what they are talking about that try and argue like they are SME's on here. And unfortunately, those that appreciate good discussion and/or are looking for correct and factual information actually receive BS way too often. So how was his statement about the armchair commando's ignorant?
Like I said before, way too many of you are trying to identify with the assclowns... |
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I have a few DD goodies , I ma the target customer for DD products . This video makes it herd to see any reason to buy said products . I would take his class
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I can't see being offended unless you think the description applies to you.
And unless you've got the creds of being part of Delta and an MSG in the Army, no you're opinion is not on par with LAV. |
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He thinks he is better and superior to all other people and especially targets the people that frequent ARFCOM. From a purely objective standpoint, his knowledge base is massive, and his experience/resume is extremely impressive. That is true, however, there are many combat vets that post on this site, myself included, and the comment was ignorant and condescending. He came off an an arrogant ass. While he may have the creds to back up that attitude, you don't talk that way about your customer base. Personally, I don't think anyone ever has enough creds to be an arrogant asshole, no matter what the subject. |
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He thinks he is better and superior to all other people and especially targets the people that frequent ARFCOM. From a purely objective standpoint, his knowledge base is massive, and his experience/resume is extremely impressive. That is true, however, there are many combat vets that post on this site, myself included, and the comment was ignorant and condescending. He came off an an arrogant ass. While he may have the creds to back up that attitude, you don't talk that way about your customer base. To be honest I'd probably never buy a DD gun anyways. It's out of my price range and I don't need it for the shooting I do. BUT that being said. I won't be recommending them to the people I DO know that spend money like that. I'd rather send them to Larue. And if you know me you'll know exactly what that means. |
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He thinks he is better and superior to all other people and especially targets the people that frequent ARFCOM. From a purely objective standpoint, his knowledge base is massive, and his experience/resume is extremely impressive. That is true, however, there are many combat vets that post on this site, myself included, and the comment was ignorant and condescending. He came off an an arrogant ass. While he may have the creds to back up that attitude, you don't talk that way about your customer base. To be honest I'd probably never buy a DD gun anyways. It's out of my price range and I don't need it for the shooting I do. BUT that being said. I won't be recommending them to the people I DO know that spend money like that. I'd rather send them to Larue. And if you know me you'll know exactly what that means. +1 i was about to purchase a new rail fromn DD but after seeing that video i think i will just wait and save up to buy a stealth upper from Larue. |
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I was uninspired to spend money on DD product after watching that piece of marketing. Calling it a "Piece of Marketing" is being pretty generous... I've never seen a manufacturer come out with a "hit piece" on a forum before. This is a first. I am very disappoint. That's because it's usually not public. You think it's coincidence that people from Colt or FN don't speak publicly here? Most of the industry people who actually KNEW something has been run off by the peanut gallery here, leaving people who generally don't know WTF they're talking about to rule the roost. If you look back to 05-06 and see who was posting here - and the depth of the knowledge they brought - it's pretty sad. they couldn't handle or ignore the assclowns? well that's stupid. obviously this site is the biggest on the net and it's a given it will have more idiots overall. as for what he said i could care less, it doesn't affect me or the people that follow him. |
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I was uninspired to spend money on DD product after watching that piece of marketing. Calling it a "Piece of Marketing" is being pretty generous... I've never seen a manufacturer come out with a "hit piece" on a forum before. This is a first. I am very disappoint. That's because it's usually not public. You think it's coincidence that people from Colt or FN don't speak publicly here? Most of the industry people who actually KNEW something has been run off by the peanut gallery here, leaving people who generally don't know WTF they're talking about to rule the roost. If you look back to 05-06 and see who was posting here - and the depth of the knowledge they brought - it's pretty sad. they couldn't handle or ignore the assclowns? well that's stupid. obviously this site is the biggest on the net and it's a given it will have more idiots overall. as for what he said i could care less, it doesn't affect me or the people that follow him. People with lots of expertise and a willingness to share their knowledge have been driven off the site and your response is that it's "stupid" that they "couldn't handle it"? No, they just found forums where people who spread misinformation aren't welcome. Beyond that, I don't believe that AR15.com is the biggest site on the net or even the biggest firearms related forum. |
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I can't see being offended unless you think the description applies to you. And unless you've got the creds of being part of Delta and an MSG in the Army, no you're opinion is not on par with LAV. Yeah what you are saying is true, but unless you want your customer base to only be guys with the same creds as LAV, you dont say shit like that about ARF.com |
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I was uninspired to spend money on DD product after watching that piece of marketing. Calling it a "Piece of Marketing" is being pretty generous... I've never seen a manufacturer come out with a "hit piece" on a forum before. This is a first. I am very disappoint. That's because it's usually not public. You think it's coincidence that people from Colt or FN don't speak publicly here? Most of the industry people who actually KNEW something has been run off by the peanut gallery here, leaving people who generally don't know WTF they're talking about to rule the roost. If you look back to 05-06 and see who was posting here - and the depth of the knowledge they brought - it's pretty sad. they couldn't handle or ignore the assclowns? well that's stupid. obviously this site is the biggest on the net and it's a given it will have more idiots overall. as for what he said i could care less, it doesn't affect me or the people that follow him. People with lots of expertise and a willingness to share their knowledge have been driven off the site and your response is that it's "stupid" that they "couldn't handle it"? No, they just found forums where people who spread misinformation aren't welcome. Beyond that, I don't believe that AR15.com is the biggest site on the net or even the biggest firearms related forum. Actually I believe arfcom is the biggest firearms forum. what about a special discount code for those offended? |
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I can't see being offended unless you think the description applies to you. And unless you've got the creds of being part of Delta and an MSG in the Army, no you're opinion is not on par with LAV. Yeah what you are saying is true, but unless you want your customer base to only be guys with the same creds as LAV, you dont say shit like that about ARF.com There is a good bit of truth to this as well... |
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I was uninspired to spend money on DD product after watching that piece of marketing. Calling it a "Piece of Marketing" is being pretty generous... I've never seen a manufacturer come out with a "hit piece" on a forum before. This is a first. I am very disappoint. That's because it's usually not public. You think it's coincidence that people from Colt or FN don't speak publicly here? Most of the industry people who actually KNEW something has been run off by the peanut gallery here, leaving people who generally don't know WTF they're talking about to rule the roost. If you look back to 05-06 and see who was posting here - and the depth of the knowledge they brought - it's pretty sad. they couldn't handle or ignore the assclowns? well that's stupid. obviously this site is the biggest on the net and it's a given it will have more idiots overall. as for what he said i could care less, it doesn't affect me or the people that follow him. People with lots of expertise and a willingness to share their knowledge have been driven off the site and your response is that it's "stupid" that they "couldn't handle it"? No, they just found forums where people who spread misinformation aren't welcome. Beyond that, I don't believe that AR15.com is the biggest site on the net or even the biggest firearms related forum. yeah, i find it stupid that they couldn't ignore them and were "driven" off the site which firearms site is bigger? i haven't found one yet, at least not for the ar15 rifle. |
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Just out of curiosity, does DD make most of their money from HSLD military contracts, or spongebob watching "armchair" commandos? I know when I was in the military (NOT HSLD) I couldn't even dream of affording one of these weapons. Only after starting an IT Company (which, btw, sometimes repairs laser printers) could I start to build my personal collection of military style weapons because I missed the fun with them that I had in the Army.
Not really a great idea to alienate your customer base with a "You're not worthy" statement such as this. Seems that there are some companies that do this (cough HK cough), and they aren't really that well represented on the AR platform side of the house. There are what, maximum of 2000 real, live Delta operators? I wouldn't want to base my business on that small of a number. Larry has the creds that speak for themselves. He is lowering himself by insulting members of this forum. He is speaking just like any of the other armchair commandos. He is better than that. My 2 cents. WMD |
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I can't see being offended unless you think the description applies to you. And unless you've got the creds of being part of Delta and an MSG in the Army, no you're opinion is not on par with LAV. Yeah what you are saying is true, but unless you want your customer base to only be guys with the same creds as LAV, you dont say shit like that about ARF.com There is a good bit of truth to this as well... Yes there is. My opinion may not matter, but my wallet does. Ask Mark LaRue. I think I paid for a new wing on his house... |
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Yeah, insulting customers & potential customers who happen to be members of the largest firearms forum isn't a good idea.
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I bet half of the people on here wouldn't know DD from a whole in the fucking ground if it wasn't for ARFCOM.
That was a slam to a big part of his customer base..... at least that's the way I see it. |
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Everyone should chill.
Hes just saying that some people who have never BTDT shouldn't be talking about shit they don't know. Plenty of people here do that. |
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Larry has the creds that speak for themselves. He is lowering himself by insulting members of this forum. He is speaking just like any of the other armchair commandos. He is better than that. My 2 cents. WMD He didn't insult the vast majority of the members of this forum. He insulted those that do a job, then in turn come here and say blah b;ah blah about things they have no experience in, while claiming to have such knowledge. That is the difference, and those are the assclowns. Not the overall general membership. People are rushing over themselves to be offended though... |
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Everyone should chill. Hes just saying that some people who have never BTDT shouldn't be talking about shit they don't know. Plenty of people here do that. BINGO!!! I'll add that it's ok to talk about things you don't know... As in ask questions about to learn or voice an opinion, etc... But don't make statements of fact, recommendations, etc... about shit one doesn't have proper experience in whatsoever.... That's the key, and the one so many just don't want to grasp... Like the drunk spewing his mouth at the bar like a poser..... |
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Everyone should chill. Hes just saying that some people who have never BTDT shouldn't be talking about shit they don't know. Plenty of people here do that. Apparently he flunked his Concise Speaking class. |
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Everyone should chill. Hes just saying that some people who have never BTDT shouldn't be talking about shit they don't know. Plenty of people here do that. So if people aren't super tactical uber tier one operators, they shouldn't have an opinion on firearms, or how well they operate? Big L needs to realize civvies put just as many rounds down range as LEOs/Mil Not every .mil man or woman delivers hot lead downrange. |
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amusing he takes a swipe at knights/HK
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