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Posted: 2/6/2014 5:24:10 PM EDT
Am I crazy or did this just pop up for sale today?
https://www.primaryarms.com/Red-Dot-Sights-Primary-Arms-s/903.htm I'm about to order it but i'd love to hear some more info from the PA guys. It says both 30,000 hours and 50,000 hours so i'm not sure which. |
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It really does. I was about to order the standard red dot but I'm seriously considering this. Perhaps we can see a shot through the glass
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Not to mention lifetime warranty with integrated qd. I want to know if its absolute or lower 1\3 though.
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We put these up late yesterday and I will get a more detailed post today. These are amazing for the price. The use the latest LED technology for the light source. In addition to the longer battery life that gives a super sharp dot and less parallax error than anything else on the market. I also like that they use CR123 batteries. I prefer that as a standard when it comes to weapons.
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OK, that came out of nowhere. $170 for a 50k hour QD mount reflex sight? WTF is the catch here? That green laser version looks slick, too... low-temp green laser for that money isn't bad.
Also, just a note, but the description says 30k hours. Which is it? (Not that 30k is bad, mind you.) |
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OK, that came out of nowhere. $170 for a 50k hour QD mount reflex sight? WTF is the catch here? That green laser version looks slick, too... low-temp green laser for that money isn't bad. Also, just a note, but the description says 30k hours. Which is it? (Not that 30k is bad, mind you.) View Quote I'd like to know 30 or 50 as well. I wonder how accurate the laser is. I've never seen one mounted on a sight before. Factory says 50,000 at medium setting. They are estimating based on power draw. Laser sucks a lot of battery power. |
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Deciding on whether I want the green laser or not is keeping me from pulling the trigger already.
At $170 or $220 with a lifetime warranty, these specs and Primary's rep I'm pretty confident in buying before major reviews come out. |
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my bdays in a week and a half. this would be a nice present to try out
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These look really nice! So, how does this work, you have a red dot and a choice to switch to a laser sight?
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I'd like to know 30 or 50 as well. I wonder how accurate the laser is. I've never seen one mounted on a sight before. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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OK, that came out of nowhere. $170 for a 50k hour QD mount reflex sight? WTF is the catch here? That green laser version looks slick, too... low-temp green laser for that money isn't bad. Also, just a note, but the description says 30k hours. Which is it? (Not that 30k is bad, mind you.) I'd like to know 30 or 50 as well. I wonder how accurate the laser is. I've never seen one mounted on a sight before. EOTech EOLAD |
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Id like to see some more info on these, looking for a nice budget red dot, this might be just the one to get.
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Are these lower 1/3 co witness or absolute? They look like maybe lower 1/3 but Im not sure.
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Too many choices. I was set on getting a micro dot and a 30mm, then this came up so I figured the laser less version and possibly a micro. Now I wonder if I should ditch the micro and get the laser. Grrr. Damn you PA! lol
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30k hour battery life and a lifetime warranty? Just ordered two.
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Its parallax free after 50 yards. To what degree is the parallax inside 50 yards?
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Puttin in the order for the non laser version.....maybe a micro too. :)
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Oh good mine is coming in today. I ordered before knowing what cowitness it was but I wanted absolute anyway.
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Oh good mine is coming in today. I ordered before knowing what cowitness it was but I wanted absolute anyway. View Quote Post lots of pics. :) |
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You are awesome! Great pics. Looks solid. I'm still on the fence with the laser. Seems cool but don't know why I would use it. Looks like a quality piece though.
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You are awesome! Great pics. Looks solid. I'm still on the fence with the laser. Seems cool but don't know why I would use it. Looks like a quality piece though. View Quote After looking at the battery side I realized the laser really adds no bulk to the dot. If you think you'll use the laser get it, but with both eyes open it's really easy to see this red dot. The only complaint I have so far is that the brightness resets each time you turn it on and off. I didn't find anything in the manual about programming it to keep your last setting. Oh yeah and this thing gets really bright. Edit: Forgot to say I took a pic of the bottom of the mount for one reason. You can move the cross bolt to the front or back of the mount. This gives you great flexibility in the mount. I mean this red dot barely costs any more than most QD mounts, and it's seems to have a good QD mount as well. |
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Thanks for the info. I really like that you don't see the emitter. I was initially looking at the lucid hd7 but the emitter being so visible just bugs me. I was wondering about the brightness. It would be nice if you could program the brightness. Maybe even disable the auto off. At 50,000 hours you could just leave it on for a few years. Ha.
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Any impressions or comparisons with the glass? I was extremely impressed with what PA did with the 2.5x glass, and it'd be nice to hear if this new sight had a similar jump in quality.
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I may not be the best person to answer that as I haven't looked through really high end optics.
It's definitely nicer than the sparc. Here is a picture I took with my cell phone using my magnifier through the pa advanced. https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Jk_eKE7SR3Q/UvmiOQULbqI/AAAAAAAAIQ8/gRjtDkHeX4w/w1012-h759-no/IMG_20140210_180309.jpg With the Sparc through my Vortex Magnifier I used to get a greenish tint with the PA Microdot there appears to be very minimal change to the color. |
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Way to kick the PRO in the nuts, haha. View Quote Honestly I was saving up to buy the Pro then I saw this announcement and figured it was a no brainer. I really like the mount especially since it isn't using a ring so it keeps the profile of the body nice and slim. The mount location of the buttons is nice as well. They shouldn't get pushed accidentally in your bad and if they did you got the same battery life of a pro with an automatic 8 hour shut off. The pro has the better flip caps but that can easily be remedied. As far as the dot itself I say the clarity of the dots is pretty close between the two. |
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Only real advantage I could see for the Pro would be magnification. Looks like you wouldn't be able to fit a magnifier if you had a delta ring setup still. Maybe without the rear buis?
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+1. That's a feature I really don't like. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Well fo when the auto shut off is removed +1. That's a feature I really don't like. I dunno. The usual reason I hear for dumping that feature is "I don't want to turn on my HD gun optic". Wouldn't you want an Aimpoint PRO anyways for that use? I don't think PA has ever marketed their optics for real combat use, albeit it wouldn't shock me if they did such a line in the near future (and, for the record, I'd buy in). |
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I dunno. The usual reason I hear for dumping that feature is "I don't want to turn on my HD gun optic". Wouldn't you want an Aimpoint PRO anyways for that use? I don't think PA has ever marketed their optics for real combat use, albeit it wouldn't shock me if they did such a line in the near future (and, for the record, I'd buy in). View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Well fo when the auto shut off is removed +1. That's a feature I really don't like. I dunno. The usual reason I hear for dumping that feature is "I don't want to turn on my HD gun optic". Wouldn't you want an Aimpoint PRO anyways for that use? I don't think PA has ever marketed their optics for real combat use, albeit it wouldn't shock me if they did such a line in the near future (and, for the record, I'd buy in). Yes, I would and do have PROs for that usage. I like to use PA's products on bang around hunting rifles. I'm not a fan of auto shut off in that application. Eight hours is quite a bit better than what Vortex went with though. |
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8 hours makes it not a issue for a class or day of hunting. Some competitors use 2 hours which makes no sense. We do it to prolong the life of the emitter. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Well fo when the auto shut off is removed 8 hours makes it not a issue for a class or day of hunting. Some competitors use 2 hours which makes no sense. We do it to prolong the life of the emitter. I would prefer to set it and forget it. |
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