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New to optics, other than the extra zoom, why should I choose this over the psa 1-4x? Looks to be 150 more thanks
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I was going to post a pic from Oleg, but see he already has.
Here is a link to it on Olegs page. http://olegvolk.net/blog/2013/07/03/a-good-deal-in- |
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New to optics, other than the extra zoom, why should I choose this over the psa 1-4x? Looks to be 150 more thanks Smaller, more magnification, lots of quality low cost 1-4x options, not so much for 1-6x. |
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I like the reticle, but if you have an autoranging reticle why the stadia ranger right next to it? Its there for situations when the target is sideways or moving. Its hard to range shoulder to shoulder when the target is sideways. In some cases only the torso is visible but the brain can very quickly figure out where the feet or parts covered by dead space would be. We spend a lot of time developing it and even more testing it. You can watch the video to get a better understanding how it works http://youtu.be/nxwaiDeXP8c Dimitri Mikroulis |
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We received the short eye relief AK version today. Once we verify the reticle is right we will get that one in the build que as well.
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We received the short eye relief AK version today. Once we verify the reticle is right we will get that one in the build que as well. How short is short? |
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We received the short eye relief AK version today. Once we verify the reticle is right we will get that one in the build que as well. AK version as in 7.62x39 BDC reticle? |
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We received the short eye relief AK version today. Once we verify the reticle is right we will get that one in the build que as well. AK version as in 7.62x39 BDC reticle? YES |
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I like the reticle, but if you have an autoranging reticle why the stadia ranger right next to it? Its there for situations when the target is sideways or moving. Its hard to range shoulder to shoulder when the target is sideways. In some cases only the torso is visible but the brain can very quickly figure out where the feet or parts covered by dead space would be. We spend a lot of time developing it and even more testing it. You can watch the video to get a better understanding how it works http://youtu.be/nxwaiDeXP8c Dimitri Mikroulis What was the reason for placing it so close to the primary aim point? |
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We received the short eye relief AK version today. Once we verify the reticle is right we will get that one in the build que as well. Can't wait! Any updates on the fixed mag versions of either the AR or AK versions? |
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We received the short eye relief AK version today. Once we verify the reticle is right we will get that one in the build que as well. AK version as in 7.62x39 BDC reticle? YES NICE! Will there be a 308 version of the 1-6, and will all the 1-4 be offered with the different BDC ACSS reticles down the road? |
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We received the short eye relief AK version today. Once we verify the reticle is right we will get that one in the build que as well. AK version as in 7.62x39 BDC reticle? YES NICE! Will there be a 308 version of the 1-6, and will all the 1-4 be offered with the different BDC ACSS reticles down the road? Neither of thise are currently being considered. A 4-14X .FFP 308 is in the works |
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Marsh. Can you provide if possible: - weight - length - 30mm tube? - price range? I'm debating on this or an Aimpoint Pro, and need to know where to spend my money (both would be with you of course). 30mm. The sample is out in CA for testing so I can;t get the other info until it gets back. Price is not firm but $250-300 range Marsh, I couldn't wait and ordered an Aimpoint Pro from you this morning....and....got my shipping confirmation an hour later I'm still going to get one of these too! |
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Do you think you will have the RS AK303 and the AMK 30mm rings back in stock by the time the 1-6 hits your website?
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Now that I see this is up on the website, since it's second focal plane, will the reticle not be accurate at lower power settings and only be able to reach out at 6x?
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Now that I see this is up on the website, since it's second focal plane, will the reticle not be accurate at lower power settings and only be able to reach out at 6x? View Quote Correct. The marking will only be on at 6X. That is where you will doing most of you long range shooting. |
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Correct. The marking will only be on at 6X. That is where you will doing most of you long range shooting. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Now that I see this is up on the website, since it's second focal plane, will the reticle not be accurate at lower power settings and only be able to reach out at 6x? Correct. The marking will only be on at 6X. That is where you will doing most of you long range shooting. |
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I don't know why people are upset. FFP on low power variables usually results in the BDC being too small to see at low magnification anyways.
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I don't know why people are upset. FFP on low power variables usually results in the BDC being too small to see at low magnification anyways. View Quote In a well-illuminated scope, that's literally the idea. With FFP, a scope with a well-designed reticle like this one turns into something very close to reflex sight (ie, all you see is a red dot). With SFP, you've got to tell your brain to ignore the rest of the reticle. It's not quite as fast. That's why I'm actually rather a fan of the fixed magnification version of these optics; at the very least, I won't ever be confused about whether BDC is valid or not. |
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In a well-illuminated scope, that's literally the idea. With FFP, a scope with a well-designed reticle like this one turns into something very close to reflex sight (ie, all you see is a red dot). With SFP, you've got to tell your brain to ignore the rest of the reticle. It's not quite as fast. That's why I'm actually rather a fan of the fixed magnification version of these optics; at the very least, I won't ever be confused about whether BDC is valid or not. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I don't know why people are upset. FFP on low power variables usually results in the BDC being too small to see at low magnification anyways. In a well-illuminated scope, that's literally the idea. With FFP, a scope with a well-designed reticle like this one turns into something very close to reflex sight (ie, all you see is a red dot). With SFP, you've got to tell your brain to ignore the rest of the reticle. It's not quite as fast. That's why I'm actually rather a fan of the fixed magnification version of these optics; at the very least, I won't ever be confused about whether BDC is valid or not. That I can understand, but that's not the complaints made thus far. Chances are I'll be using just the 1 and 6, and while there is a lot to the reticle, it's not clustered at all and every horseshoe I've looked through was great for closer work. |
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I might have to build another AR, so I have something to put one of these 1-6 scopes on...
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How do I get on the waiting list? This is coming out about the right time when I need a scope
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I use this on my primary arms 1-4x. Coaster Cat Tail it works for most variable scopes. http://i651.photobucket.com/albums/uu234/carbonfly/3Gun/fb2f593c6293135a21a6a2c09be47f23_zps065174c1.jpg http://i651.photobucket.com/albums/uu234/carbonfly/3Gun/c2b2e20538fcd32fa66a739d03257343_zps54631bcc.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Will a "cat-tail" be useable or available? I use this on my primary arms 1-4x. Coaster Cat Tail it works for most variable scopes. http://i651.photobucket.com/albums/uu234/carbonfly/3Gun/fb2f593c6293135a21a6a2c09be47f23_zps065174c1.jpg http://i651.photobucket.com/albums/uu234/carbonfly/3Gun/c2b2e20538fcd32fa66a739d03257343_zps54631bcc.jpg Is this the new "Dog Dick Red" Cerakote I keep hearing about? |
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Looks like the eye box is a bit smaller than most variables, but look at that weight! 1-6 with ullumination and only 16.6 ounces. Not bad, not bad at all.
The Sightmark 1-6 weighs almost a quarter pound more, but also has 50% more exit pupil on 1X. |
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Looks like the eye box is a bit smaller than most variables, but look at that weight! 1-6 with ullumination and only 16.6 ounces. Not bad, not bad at all. The Sightmark 1-6 weighs almost a quarter pound more, but also has 50% more exit pupil on 1X. View Quote With the exception of the Leupold VX-6 and the Swarovski 1-6x, I could not find a lighter 1-6x at any price range. |
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What was the reason for placing it so close to the primary aim point? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I like the reticle, but if you have an autoranging reticle why the stadia ranger right next to it? Its there for situations when the target is sideways or moving. Its hard to range shoulder to shoulder when the target is sideways. In some cases only the torso is visible but the brain can very quickly figure out where the feet or parts covered by dead space would be. We spend a lot of time developing it and even more testing it. You can watch the video to get a better understanding how it works http://youtu.be/nxwaiDeXP8c Dimitri Mikroulis What was the reason for placing it so close to the primary aim point? Are you referring to ranging bracket on the right? Its close so you can transition from ranging to shooting as fast as possible. It sits far enough not to get in the way of 10 or even 15 mph hold. Like I said before a lot of thought and testing went into this The number one reason shots are missed is wrong ranging then wind The ACSS is not just another reticle it deals with the reality of a shot. In CQB mode the large horseshoe allows you to be on target fast and if the target is moving have the proper lead. In medium range ranging your target is as easy as placing it in the right bracket in live situations there is no time to mil and use a calculator to determine range and then turn knobs with ACSS all the math and knob turning has been done. The process is simple range, hold for wind and engage. In testing it has proven far more effective then other $2000 dollar optics. Shooting at a stationary target is one thing and live situations is a whole other. The reality is multiple targets at unknown distances with limited exposure and moving! Dimitri Mikroulis Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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The problem is under stress there is a small potential of picking the ranging stadia, vice the primary aimpoint.
I think the stadia makes sense, but it is too close to primary aimpoint. |
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The problem is under stress there is a small potential of picking the ranging stadia, vice the primary aimpoint. I think the stadia makes sense, but it is too close to primary aimpoint. View Quote The stadia is a must if a target is sideways there is no way to range them using the center mass portion only that you see in a lot of other reticles. In live situation everyone is moving in all angles not standing to be ranged and shot. This concept has been successfully used by the PSO Draganov rifle and many others. I took what works put it all together and dropped anything that is complicated or requires a calculator. Under stress the brain picks up the huge horseshoe what your talking about would be at medium range. We have shot it in all kinds of situation and have never aimed with the ranging portion. Its off to the side and tiny compared to the centered big horseshoe after a while the ACSS becomes second nature even to a 9 year old child! Dimitri Mikroulis Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Wow that looks to be nice for the money! I hadn't even heard of the fixed 6x model until yesterday and then I saw this, I must've been living under a rock. My question here would be how well it will perform toward dusk and dawn w/ the smaller objective lens? Regardless of the answer to that question, it looks like it'll be a great value for the money. Decent low-light performance and the ability to see the illuminated horseshoe in daylight would make this a SMOKING deal. Either way I added myself to the email list, looking forward to its release!
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The stadia is a must if a target is sideways there is no way to range them using the center mass portion only that you see in a lot of other reticles. In live situation everyone is moving in all angles not standing to be ranged and shot. This concept has been successfully used by the PSO Draganov rifle and many others. I took what works put it all together and dropped anything that is complicated or requires a calculator. Under stress the brain picks up the huge horseshoe what your talking about would be at medium range. We have shot it in all kinds of situation and have never aimed with the ranging portion. Its off to the side and tiny compared to the centered big horseshoe after a while the ACSS becomes second nature even to a 9 year old child! Dimitri Mikroulis Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The problem is under stress there is a small potential of picking the ranging stadia, vice the primary aimpoint. I think the stadia makes sense, but it is too close to primary aimpoint. The stadia is a must if a target is sideways there is no way to range them using the center mass portion only that you see in a lot of other reticles. In live situation everyone is moving in all angles not standing to be ranged and shot. This concept has been successfully used by the PSO Draganov rifle and many others. I took what works put it all together and dropped anything that is complicated or requires a calculator. Under stress the brain picks up the huge horseshoe what your talking about would be at medium range. We have shot it in all kinds of situation and have never aimed with the ranging portion. Its off to the side and tiny compared to the centered big horseshoe after a while the ACSS becomes second nature even to a 9 year old child! Dimitri Mikroulis Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile What kind of circumstances define all kind of circumstances? Because one could say the same thing for AK sights, but it is not unheard of of people using the wings vice the post under stress Notice how the PSO and everyone else who puts a stadia range finder does not put it in line with the primary aim point? |
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What kind of circumstances define all kind of circumstances? Because one could say the same thing for AK sights, but it is not unheard of of people using the wings vice the post under stress Notice how the PSO and everyone else who puts a stadia range finder does not put it in line with the primary aim point? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The problem is under stress there is a small potential of picking the ranging stadia, vice the primary aimpoint. I think the stadia makes sense, but it is too close to primary aimpoint. The stadia is a must if a target is sideways there is no way to range them using the center mass portion only that you see in a lot of other reticles. In live situation everyone is moving in all angles not standing to be ranged and shot. This concept has been successfully used by the PSO Draganov rifle and many others. I took what works put it all together and dropped anything that is complicated or requires a calculator. Under stress the brain picks up the huge horseshoe what your talking about would be at medium range. We have shot it in all kinds of situation and have never aimed with the ranging portion. Its off to the side and tiny compared to the centered big horseshoe after a while the ACSS becomes second nature even to a 9 year old child! Dimitri Mikroulis Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile What kind of circumstances define all kind of circumstances? Because one could say the same thing for AK sights, but it is not unheard of of people using the wings vice the post under stress Notice how the PSO and everyone else who puts a stadia range finder does not put it in line with the primary aim point? We are always working on the next generation and look forward to feedback when these get into the market. It won't be long now. I have not shot it as much as Dimitri but I find I tune out the secondary scale pretty quick and it is a very deliberate action to use it . |
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The problem is under stress there is a small potential of picking the ranging stadia, vice the primary aimpoint. I think the stadia makes sense, but it is too close to primary aimpoint. View Quote Your brain has been trained to use the centralized aiming point in a scope. It’s how every scope works. The only mistake with aiming points I’ve seen made with a scope under stress was instinctively reverting back to the main aiming point instead of using the correct holdover point. I think worrying that you will use the ranging stadia on the side is like worrying that all those dots in a mill dot scope will confuse you and under stress you mistakenly use one of the dots instead of the center crosshairs. |
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Your brain has been trained to use the centralized aiming point in a scope. It’s how every scope works. The only mistake with aiming points I’ve seen made with a scope under stress was instinctively reverting back to the main aiming point instead of using the correct holdover point. I think worrying that you will use the ranging stadia on the side is like worrying that all those dots in a mill dot scope will confuse you and under stress you mistakenly use one of the dots instead of the center crosshairs. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The problem is under stress there is a small potential of picking the ranging stadia, vice the primary aimpoint. I think the stadia makes sense, but it is too close to primary aimpoint. Your brain has been trained to use the centralized aiming point in a scope. It’s how every scope works. The only mistake with aiming points I’ve seen made with a scope under stress was instinctively reverting back to the main aiming point instead of using the correct holdover point. I think worrying that you will use the ranging stadia on the side is like worrying that all those dots in a mill dot scope will confuse you and under stress you mistakenly use one of the dots instead of the center crosshairs. Thats exactly what happens. And good questions and points Ron. I as well have used the bunny ears on an AK jumping out of vehicle but when you look through the scope you will see what I mean. Dimitri Mikroulis Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Looks like the 1-6x is listed on the website now (but out of stock of course). At $249.99 I am very interested.
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How large is the center dot? I know the system is designed for 5.56 but what kind of recoil will this scope withstand? I know the drop tables will be off but I got .338 win mag I would love to try a 1-6 on with out having to drop $1000
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Setting up my order so my girlfriend can buy this if I am at work when its released. A couple questions.
First, will a MaTech back up iron sight fit under this scope, when mounted on an ar-15? Second, any reason all the pictures show it mounted in an extended scope mount? I was thinking a deluxe (non extended) scope mount would give me more room for BUIS Plus it seems sturdier). Heres to hoping its released 9/1/13!!! |
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How large is the center dot? I know the system is designed for 5.56 but what kind of recoil will this scope withstand? I know the drop tables will be off but I got .338 win mag I would love to try a 1-6 on with out having to drop $1000 View Quote It is shock rated up to a .308. 1MOA at 6X |
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A 6.8 reticle would be divine... NO ONE is building anything in this class with a 6.8 reticle. The only 6.8 reticle is a $1400 ACOG...
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Never been in stock. We went ahead and put it on the site so you can sign up for the email when in stock notofication. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Looks like the 1-6x is listed on the website now (but out of stock, of course). At $249.99 I am very interested. Never been in stock. We went ahead and put it on the site so you can sign up for the email when in stock notofication. Could have made my post more clear, I knew that. Was making it known that the price seems to be set And thanks for the reminder to sign up for that email! |
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How's the Glass quality compare to the Optisan Prestige 1-6x you were selling a while back? Really liked the glass in that one. Stupid state tax agency just slashed my optics budget so may pick one of these up for my AR 10 and maybe a replacement for the Optisan on my 308 VEPR. Should be able to adapt the reticle fairly easily with trusty notepad and trial and error.
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Ha, even if they copied Optisan, the geometry may be the same, but at this price point, at best I am expecting Chinese "Leupold" Imported glass quality. However I am not sure how Optisan compares to China Leupold, which is the best I have looked through, and is the best I own.
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I think they based their 1-6x on the Optisan so it should be the same glass quality. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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How's the Glass quality compare to the Optisan Prestige 1-6x you were selling a while back? Really liked the glass in that one. Stupid state tax agency just slashed my optics budget so may pick one of these up for my AR 10 and maybe a replacement for the Optisan on my 308 VEPR. Should be able to adapt the reticle fairly easily with trusty notepad and trial and error. I think they based their 1-6x on the Optisan so it should be the same glass quality. Absolutely not the case. We will have a version of the Optisan with our reticle as well. This scope is made in completely different factory. |
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Absolutely not the case. We will have a version of the Optisan with our reticle as well. This scope is made in completely different factory. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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How's the Glass quality compare to the Optisan Prestige 1-6x you were selling a while back? Really liked the glass in that one. Stupid state tax agency just slashed my optics budget so may pick one of these up for my AR 10 and maybe a replacement for the Optisan on my 308 VEPR. Should be able to adapt the reticle fairly easily with trusty notepad and trial and error. I think they based their 1-6x on the Optisan so it should be the same glass quality. Absolutely not the case. We will have a version of the Optisan with our reticle as well. This scope is made in completely different factory. Oh, your just putting your reticle on the optisan. My bad, editing my previous post. |
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I'd be interested in the 7.62x39 reticle as it should come close with 300BO.
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