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Ordered a 9mm rifle kit last week and it arrived today. Kit included the hammer and unramped bolt shown below. Should I be concerned about premature hammer pin wear or breakage with this combination? http://i.imgur.com/gKDPW9a.jpg View Quote unfortunately yeah |
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So much for all new uppers having the ramped bolt carrier. View Quote who made the claim "all new upper have the ramped bolt carrier"? psa made this claim on the first page of this thread "Kits that have the ramped bolt will have that notation in the description." did i miss something in here? |
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who made the claim "all new upper have the ramped bolt carrier"? psa made this claim on the first page of this thread "Kits that have the ramped bolt will have that notation in the description." did i miss something in here? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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So much for all new uppers having the ramped bolt carrier. who made the claim "all new upper have the ramped bolt carrier"? psa made this claim on the first page of this thread "Kits that have the ramped bolt will have that notation in the description." did i miss something in here? Part of the confusion stems from the fact that none of their in-stock kits or uppers list a ramped bolt, but yet people are receiving ramped bolts. Bonus for them, I guess. Not so much for me. Also, someone posted in the Pistol Caliber forum that they called PSA and the rep said all new kits are shipping with ramped bolts. |
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What he said. .and in the description of all their complete uppers or kits on their website it just says bolt carrier included....
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If PSA is shipping kits (or the complete uppers) with the ramped bolt then why dont they state that on the website? AS soon as they do that I would consider ordering from them.
PSA, are you listening? |
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Yeah, I was going to buy a pistol kit next and SBR it, but there's no way I'll buy one until I know it comes with a ramped bolt. Fool me once, and all that.
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I just got in my 10.5" PSA 9mm upper and the bolt does not look ramped to me. Pics coming in a minute but I contacted PSA and they told me that ?Hello, Our 9mm upper receivers are compatible with AR-15 Mil-Spec lower receivers. We do not sell 9mm compete lower receivers, only AR-15 multi lower receivers. All of the hammers in our kits and complete lower receivers are non-notched hammers compatible with ramped 9mm bolts. Thank you, Customer Service Palmetto State Armory (803) 724-6950 [email protected] - So this had better work with my friend's pistol lower that has a regular hammer in it. Otherwise I will be contacting PSA about getting this remedied. Not feeling so good about this right now. |
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So am I right that in order to get this upper to work properly with the unramped bolt that I only need to pickup a 9mm hammer? Provided I have the 9mm buffer already, of course.
I just called PSA and they will not allow you to trade in the unused 9mm unramped bolt and pay the difference for a ramped bolt. Disappointed with that fact but it is what it is. |
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I just got in my 10.5" PSA 9mm upper and the bolt does not look ramped to me. Pics coming in a minute but I contacted PSA and they told me that ?Hello, Our 9mm upper receivers are compatible with AR-15 Mil-Spec lower receivers. We do not sell 9mm compete lower receivers, only AR-15 multi lower receivers. All of the hammers in our kits and complete lower receivers are non-notched hammers compatible with ramped 9mm bolts. Thank you, Customer Service Palmetto State Armory (803) 724-6950 [email protected] - So this had better work with my friend's pistol lower that has a regular hammer in it. Otherwise I will be contacting PSA about getting this remedied. Not feeling so good about this right now. View Quote LOL. But are they compatable with unramped bolts, since that is the configuration they are shipping? PSA has always been a lovable but slightly inept company. Lately they have been ditching the first part but keeping the second. |
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LOL. But are they compatable with unramped bolts, since that is the configuration they are shipping? PSA has always been a lovable but slightly inept company. Lately they have been ditching the first part but keeping the second. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I just got in my 10.5" PSA 9mm upper and the bolt does not look ramped to me. Pics coming in a minute but I contacted PSA and they told me that ?Hello, Our 9mm upper receivers are compatible with AR-15 Mil-Spec lower receivers. We do not sell 9mm compete lower receivers, only AR-15 multi lower receivers. All of the hammers in our kits and complete lower receivers are non-notched hammers compatible with ramped 9mm bolts. Thank you, Customer Service Palmetto State Armory (803) 724-6950 [email protected] - So this had better work with my friend's pistol lower that has a regular hammer in it. Otherwise I will be contacting PSA about getting this remedied. Not feeling so good about this right now. LOL. But are they compatable with unramped bolts, since that is the configuration they are shipping? PSA has always been a lovable but slightly inept company. Lately they have been ditching the first part but keeping the second. yes they should work (unless the parts are defective). 9mm ar's started in the 80's, about 25 years later a very few companies started ramping bolts (colt (the creator of this platform) just started ramping bolts about a few years ago). ramped bolts are kinda a new thing. in the perfect world you would buy a 9mm hammer (9mm hammer = rounded hammer as comes with that lower) and a ramped bolt. price out the parts here and you will see you are getting a $100 bolt, the closest ramped bolt i know of (other than PSA) is about $200. send this bolt off to be ramped for $50 and you have still come out ahead of the game (atleast 1 industry partner, and several members on this forum do this work). |
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I am going to send it to Adco for their ramping work but it would have been nice to have the option to buy the upper with a ramped bolt to start with. So you suggest a 9mm hammer as well for the best results? I intend to run this with a can on it and so I imagine it will have a little more pressure pushing back on the bolt. Thanks for your advice. |
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Update. I just heard from Palmetto State Armory that it is supposed to be a ramped bolt. I was happy with the deal on the upper and was all set to have it modified but this is even better. Thanks PSA! Hello, The bolt is supposed to be ramped. Please provide the order number the upper and bolt were placed with. A UPS return label will be issued to have the bolt exchanged for a ramped version. Thank you, Customer Service Palmetto State Armory (803) 724-6950 [email protected] |
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Interesting. I just IM'd them about the rifle kit that I received last Friday.
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Here you go... PSA 10.5" 9mm AR upper I haven't fired mine as I am sending my bolt back to be swapped out for the ramped bolt and I do not think they would appreciate my returning a used bolt. |
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Thanks. They told me that since my kit did not specify a ramped bolt it should not have had a ramped bolt. But NONE of their kits or uppers lists a ramped bolt, and yet some people are being told they were supposed to get a ramped bolt and others not.
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I don't understand how they decide things as I was all set to mail mine out today to a shop in Georgia (a member on this site) to have it ramped. Glad to save the money though. At $299 for my upper I still feel it is a great deal but it would be nice if they let you upgrade the bolt for an additional amount when you place the order. I would have like to have fired my 9mm upper earlier today but I am thankful they are taking care of me. Good luck. |
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I asked if a kit came with a ramped bolt, was told that it did, ordered it, and it showed today with a non ramped bolt ( with hammer marks).
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I just got my 10.5" 9mm upper, ordered on Memorial Day and at my house in 7 days, for $299. Mine came with the unramped bolt. I spent two days trying to call PSA. Since I was ordering a 9mm mag well adapter from AMM ( a local FL company), I asked if they did bolt ramping and they said "Yes they've done several PSA bolts lately". Forty bucks. So I ordered the magwell adapter, buffer and had them ramp my PSA bolt. It should be here next Wednesday.
The funny thing is... next Thursday, I'm actually driving up from FL to Columbia SC for a job interview. Plan on stopping in at PSA just for grins and giggles. Jeff GlockRocket34 |
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Thank you for your comments.
As stated previously, kits that have a ramped bolt will be advertised as such. If the kit does not advertise a ramped bolt, it likely has an unramped bolt. We have had no issues in testing with the standard PSA un-notched hammer and the unramped bolt, over thousands of rounds. We offer a ramped bolt for sale seperately for those who prefer one. |
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Thank you for your comments. As stated previously, kits that have a ramped bolt will be advertised as such. If the kit does not advertise a ramped bolt, it likely has an unramped bolt. We have had no issues in testing with the standard PSA un-notched hammer and the unramped bolt, over thousands of rounds. We offer a ramped bolt for sale seperately for those who prefer one. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Thank you for your comments. As stated previously, kits that have a ramped bolt will be advertised as such. If the kit does not advertise a ramped bolt, it likely has an unramped bolt. We have had no issues in testing with the standard PSA un-notched hammer and the unramped bolt, over thousands of rounds. We offer a ramped bolt for sale seperately for those who prefer one. So what gives with the below scenario? Did FF link to the wrong one? Did the listing change? He says he ordered that one (which doesn't say ramped) and PSA says it was supposed to be ramped. Given what PSA has been saying, it should be cut and dried - if it says ramped, it's ramped; if not, it isn't. But it doesn't sound like that's consistent with what's going on. Earlier someone said they got a PSA email that said all would have a ramped bolt. Below, it looks like they are saying one not listed as ramped should have been ramped. Can FF confirm that he ordered 505440 (as linked) and not 505442? Quoted:
Update. I just heard from Palmetto State Armory that it is supposed to be a ramped bolt. I was happy with the deal on the upper and was all set to have it modified but this is even better. Thanks PSA! Hello, The bolt is supposed to be ramped. Please provide the order number the upper and bolt were placed with. A UPS return label will be issued to have the bolt exchanged for a ramped version. Thank you, Customer Service Palmetto State Armory (803) 724-6950 [email protected] Quoted:
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Here you go... PSA 10.5" 9mm AR upper I haven't fired mine as I am sending my bolt back to be swapped out for the ramped bolt and I do not think they would appreciate my returning a used bolt. PSA 10.5" 9MM SQR 7" UPPER WITH BCG AND CHARGING HANDLE - 505440 Be the first to review this product IN STOCK $ 499.99 $ 299.99 Qty: ADD TO CART SKU: 505440 UPC: 505440 MFR#: 10.5" Barrel Length Chrome Moly Steel Barrel Melonite treated Barrel 9mm Chamber 1:10 Twist 7.2" SQR Quad Rail Barrel: 10.5" chrome moly steel barrel. Chambered in 9mm, (9x19), with a 1/10 twist. The carbine profile Barrel is melonite treated for durability and finished off with a Palmetto State Armory SQR 7" free-float rail and a 1/2-36 thread birdcage-syle flash hider. Upper: Forged 7075-T6 A3 AR upper is hard coat anodized black for durability. Featuring T-marks, these upper upper receivers are made for us right here in the USA. Bolt Carrier Group: For 9mm AR15. Includes Charging Handle. Each upper is assembled to order, and test fired to check function. *Please allow up to 15 business days for your Complete Assembled Upper to ship from our facility. Holiday and special lead times can be longer* Shipping labels are created shortly after orders are placed. Shipping labels update when the product leaves our facility and are en route to their destination. You will be emailed tracking information when the order leaves our facility, however if you receive one shortly after you place your order and it remains dormant, don’t be alarmed. Your tracking information will be updated when it leaves our facility and is still subject to the aforementioned lead time. If your tracking number goes beyond the listed lead time please get in contact with us via email or phone and we will look into your issue. Signature required on delivery. |
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That upper is what I ordered and hopefully will get to fire it today. PSA swapped out my unramped bolt for a ramped one and so I am happy. At the price they are selling it for it is still a great deal and I would just send it off to someone from the board like Madmachinist who does the modification to the bolt for $40.
The reason I haven't fired mine yet is I had to wait for the bolt to come in and then I decided to have it painted Daniel Defense FDE duracoat. It seems like PSA is having some communication problems lately but they are a great company and I have purchased a lot of stuff from them over the years and will continue to be a regular customer. Edit. I see they now have almost the same upper listed with a ramped bolt for only $30 more. http://palmettostatearmory.com/index.php/catalog/product/view/id/21427/s/psa-10-5-9mm-sqr-9-upper-with-bcg-and-charging-handle/category/4442/ |
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I just got my 16" 9mm upper that I ordered on 6-26 taking advantage of the free shipping... It was described as not having a ramped bolt but it does have a ramped bolt...
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I got a 9mm kit back in January from PSA. " TO BE RAMPED OR NOT TO BE RAMPED " This is the issue. I called everyone at PSA I think, but to no answer. So I ordered the kit and ordered a 9mm hammer from JSE. I just covered the bases, kit came in not ramped. Installed 9mm hammer and runs great! But now I want to install a ALG trigger which is a enhanced mil spec. I hope that PSA could help the ole Guinea pig out or some one else could give me some advice. or can I go with the none ramped bolt on a ALG or Geissele 3 gun or timney. thanks Bob
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Well, the kit I ordered this weekend specifies NON-Ramped. ($399 kit)
So I am assuming it would come with a 9mm hammer? Website picture shows regular hammer. I'm wanting to use one of my spare ALG triggers in it, so I should send the bolt out to get ramped? Sorry, new to this 9mm AR stuff. |
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It will work with the supplied hammer, but without the ramped bolt, the operation will be much more violent on the hammer than if you had a ramped bolt. There is a guy on here that ramps bolts for like $40. He posts in the pistol caliber section.
Edit: The guy that ramps the bolts is Mad-Machinist |
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it comes with a standard 223 hammer I bought a 9mm hammer from JSE Supply for 20 bucks. I also used KNS pins on the fire control group a little extra insurance on your lower. I would not spend 15 to 20 bucks for a spacer in the buffer tube. $1.75 in quarters fits perfect and right length for the spacer you need. hope my trail and error helps.
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thanks guys. i will use the supplied hammer for now. I will send the bolt out later for ramping so I can install my spare QMS trigger.
Now, the more serious question. Where should I cut and rethread the barrel? It looks too thin under the handguard. I will be putting a 6" suppressor on this. My handguard is a 10" free floater. I was thinking 5" but it might have to be longer. I bought the 16" upper. |
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Wow... That's pretty bullshit that the new carriers are $60 more. I bet they drop down after all the old ones are sold out. Just go ahead a penalize the customer. PSA should have done their homework before introducing these rifle kits with a standard hammer and non ramped carrier. Did Apple give you a free iPhone 6 to replace the old phone you have? You can have your carrier ramped, several places offer the service. THIS Will PSA take back the $189. + shipping MOE lower build kit that I bought during the Sandy Hook scare that I had to 'hand fit' to work with a standard lower? AHAHHAHA good one |
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