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Posted: 4/15/2014 7:26:44 AM EDT
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well that is interesting....looks heavy though, do you have a weight for it?
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The Tacmod is has adjustments not only for the length of pull and comb, but also angles left and right to customize to the individual shooter.
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Palmetto State Armory is proud to announce the availability of Tacmod AR15 Buttstocks: http://palmettostatearmory.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/t/a/tacmod1.jpg Click Here! View Quote interesting.. at a magpul ctr price.. id probably buy at least one to have. at 275.... i'll be having to pass. i do agree with d16 though.. looks heavy. |
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It's hideous, and looks like something out of a hardware store.
Plus $275 is insane. |
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Thank you for your comments.
The only similarity between the Tacmod stock and a UBR is price point. As someone who has shouldered a TacMod and a UBR, it isn't even close. Like comparing a Lazyboy to a dentist chair. Both recline, but the Lazyboy is a lot more comfortable...for a lot of reasons. |
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Thank you for your comments. The only similarity between the Tacmod stock and a UBR is price point. As someone who has shouldered a TacMod and a UBR, it isn't even close. Like comparing a Lazyboy to a dentist chair. Both recline, but the Lazyboy is a lot more comfortable...for a lot of reasons. View Quote So is the TacMod the lazyboy or the dentist chair? |
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heh yea idk which is the lazy boy but im betting the rep was saying teh tac mod is like a lazy boy.
I am not sure i need to hold one and feel one before i pass final judgement, but at 275, i wont be buying one to just "try" |
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Dentist chair or lazy boy, $200 will buy a PRS and will make me happier. I'm sure it will go on sale eventually.
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Well PSA... It looks like the only way to get this whole thing figured out is to have a comparison study conducted by an independent entity. I'll go on record as a volunteer to perform the study, so why don't you just send me one of each, the TacMod and UBR, and I'll report back here for all to see. No separate monetary compensation is necessary... I'll just keep the research samples provided.
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Found the weight somewhere else. The whole assembly is 29.2 oz
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This stock definitely isn't for the "mom's basement-dwelling, paintball team-having, Internet SF unit, PTac-buying crowd" so I'm not surprised it wasn't well-received on ARFCOM.
As far as weight comparison: PSA TACmod- 1.82lbs UBR- 1.46lbs (1.63lbs w/entry rcvr ext) PRS- 168lbs (1.90lbs w/rcvr ext) PSA has obviously keyholed themselves to residing in the bargain basement of the AR market. If something like this was offered by LWRC or LMT or AI, their clientel would probably "get it." Granted, as stated, this isn't a weekend plinker's stock. This isn't a "heybo, watch this" type of shooter's product. This is the same reason Rock Island sells more 1911s than Ed Brown, Nighthawk, Wilson Combat and Les Baer combined. Good luck with this one, PSA. You're going to need it. |
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This stock definitely isn't for the "mom's basement-dwelling, paintball team-having, Internet SF unit, PTac-buying crowd" so I'm not surprised it wasn't well-received on ARFCOM. As far as weight comparison: PSA TACmod- 1.82lbs UBR- 1.46lbs (1.63lbs w/entry rcvr ext) PRS- 168lbs (1.90lbs w/rcvr ext) PSA has obviously keyholed themselves to residing in the bargain basement of the AR market. If something like this was offered by LWRC or LMT or AI, their clientel would probably "get it." Granted, as stated, this isn't a weekend plinker's stock. This isn't a "heybo, watch this" type of shooter's product. This is the same reason Rock Island sells more 1911s than Ed Brown, Nighthawk, Wilson Combat and Les Baer combined. Good luck with this one, PSA. You're going to need it. View Quote Right on I do not bench rest my ARs in competition so Ill pass. I bet it is comfy but not 270 comfy and neither is the UBR 270 bucks comfy. Ill stick to the MOE and M4 types AL |
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This stock definitely isn't for the "mom's basement-dwelling, paintball team-having, Internet SF unit, PTac-buying crowd" so I'm not surprised it wasn't well-received on ARFCOM. As far as weight comparison: PSA TACmod- 1.82lbs UBR- 1.46lbs (1.63lbs w/entry rcvr ext) PRS- 168lbs (1.90lbs w/rcvr ext) PSA has obviously keyholed themselves to residing in the bargain basement of the AR market. If something like this was offered by LWRC or LMT or AI, their clientel would probably "get it." Granted, as stated, this isn't a weekend plinker's stock. This isn't a "heybo, watch this" type of shooter's product. This is the same reason Rock Island sells more 1911s than Ed Brown, Nighthawk, Wilson Combat and Les Baer combined. Good luck with this one, PSA. You're going to need it. View Quote lol basement dwelling, do they even build homes with basements here in sc? i know my house is on sand and thats no bueno. lol the stock to me is too pricy, its higher than a prs, and well that is pretty hihg. other critiicizms are the thing is fugly. Granted i know function over asthetics and all, but if it doesnt look "cool" folks wont buy it. it may be the very best damn stock ever built for a precision shooter, but a 275 dollar buttstock, is not anywhere near my list of mus haves.. and i assume its that way for many folks. like i said my original post, that stock at a CTR price, id give her a go. |
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"That stock at a CTR price" wouldn't have near the functionality and it would probably weigh two pounds more.
A BMW M5, at a "Toyota Corolla price", well, isn't a BMW M5. |
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Aluminum isn't that expensive, as a raw material, but it's not cheap to mill/machine it. Especially when you consider all of the articulations of this stock.
I get that it doesn't "fill the bill" for you but anyone that has ever looked at a AI chasis, and things of that nature, knows what they're looking at when considering this type of product. Like I said earlier, this isn't a plinker's stock. |
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From the manufacturer:
The TacMod AR-15 butt stock represents the ultimate in full adjustability for your AR-15 rifle. Designed and refined by competition and precision shooters at the US Army Marksmanship Unit, http://www.usaac.army.mil/amu/unit/actionshooting.asp it features a fully adjustable Kydex comb allowing perfect repeatable cheek placement for iron sights and optics of any height. Full adjustability for length of pull is accomplished independent of comb and features cant adjustment of the Limsaver recoil pad for the ultimate fit to YOUR shooting style. Additionally the TacMod butt stock is provisioned for QD sling swivels (left and right) and picatinny rail (sold separately) for mono-pod attachment along its sand-sock rest. Apparently some folks have had some success with it in 3 gun competition: |
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You're talking to the wrong crowd, PSA. Now, if you have some generic hunk of shit that costs less than $50....THESE ARE YOUR PEOPLE!!!!!
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Aluminum isn't that expensive, as a raw material, but it's not cheap to mill/machine it. Especially when you consider all of the articulations of this stock. I get that it doesn't "fill the bill" for you but anyone that has ever looked at a AI chasis, and things of that nature, knows what they're looking at when considering this type of product. Like I said earlier, this isn't a plinker's stock. View Quote i get the milling isnt that cheap. seeing the picture of the Army shooter from the side psa posted makes teh stock look a TON better. that pic they have on the first page didnt do it justice there. I have a feeling that if i see it on a rifle or in person and can see its articulations i may like its "look" better. the price is of course somethign like i said that was too high for me, I have a hard time shelling out the cash for a PRS though. I am not a competition shooter though either. PSA thanks for the videos and teh information. that helped alot. |
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i get the milling isnt that cheap. seeing the picture of the Army shooter from the side psa posted makes teh stock look a TON better. that pic they have on the first page didnt do it justice there. I have a feeling that if i see it on a rifle or in person and can see its articulations i may like its "look" better. the price is of course somethign like i said that was too high for me, I have a hard time shelling out the cash for a PRS though. I am not a competition shooter though either. PSA thanks for the videos and teh information. that helped alot. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Aluminum isn't that expensive, as a raw material, but it's not cheap to mill/machine it. Especially when you consider all of the articulations of this stock. I get that it doesn't "fill the bill" for you but anyone that has ever looked at a AI chasis, and things of that nature, knows what they're looking at when considering this type of product. Like I said earlier, this isn't a plinker's stock. i get the milling isnt that cheap. seeing the picture of the Army shooter from the side psa posted makes teh stock look a TON better. that pic they have on the first page didnt do it justice there. I have a feeling that if i see it on a rifle or in person and can see its articulations i may like its "look" better. the price is of course somethign like i said that was too high for me, I have a hard time shelling out the cash for a PRS though. I am not a competition shooter though either. PSA thanks for the videos and teh information. that helped alot. Have to agree with this...being able to see it work as designed as opposed to the front page pic is a big +1. |
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The price is reasonable compared to other similar products. The precision chassis that was originally designed for is $1400.
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Without GCO's seal of approval this is a no go for me. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes haha i dont know if i should be honored or worried. :) seriously I'll wait to see it in person before i make final judgement, but for my needs i dont think i'd go with it. Quoted:
The price is reasonable compared to other similar products. The precision chassis that was originally designed for is $1400. geeze. |
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The only difference in the pictures is one is as it comes out of the box and the other is shown having been adjusted.
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The only difference in the pictures is one is as it comes out of the box and the other is shown having been adjusted. View Quote yea but the adjusted one looks better, gives me a better view mentally of how the stock functions, and adjusts. add that to what PSA stated about the stock from the MFR. well it helps :) |
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Question... is the buffer tube standard length? Or does this allow a shorter than normal length of pull?
I've been looking for a tube/stock combo that works better for training women and children since they both have T-rex arms compared to the average AR shooter. Specifically when chambered in .22lr; since the bolt doesnt even go into the tube, there's no need for it to have such a long length of pull. |
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My 8 year old nephew can shoot my AR with my stock (LMT SOPMOD) fully collapsed. If they need something shorter than that, well, I don't know what to tell you.
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It is approximately 9 inches minimum to the end of the buttpad Limbsaver.
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Question... is the buffer tube standard length? Or does this allow a shorter than normal length of pull? I've been looking for a tube/stock combo that works better for training women and children since they both have T-rex arms compared to the average AR shooter. Specifically when chambered in .22lr; since the bolt doesnt even go into the tube, there's no need for it to have such a long length of pull. View Quote Edit by PSA: Fixed the obvious "thats what she said" setup. |
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It is approximately 9 inches minimum to the end of the buttpad. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
It is approximately 9 inches minimum to the end of the buttpad. Quoted:
Question... is the buffer tube standard length? Or does this allow a shorter than normal length of pull? I've been looking for a tube/stock combo that works better for training women and children since they both have T-rex arms compared to the average AR shooter. Specifically when chambered in .22lr; since the bolt doesnt even go into the tube, there's no need for it to have such a long length of pull. There is a bad joke in that answer...but anywho....limbsavers are pretty cushy. I have one on my remington 870 and it makes a dramatic difference in the recoil and the length. So I would guess the tube is a little less than 8" given the pics. |
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The limbsaver and aluminum buttplate are 1.75" thick, so about 7.25" for the tube.
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It is approximately 9 inches minimum to the end of the buttpad Limbsaver. Edit by PSA: Fixed the obvious "thats what she said" setup. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
It is approximately 9 inches minimum to the end of the buttpad Limbsaver. Quoted:
Question... is the buffer tube standard length? Or does this allow a shorter than normal length of pull? I've been looking for a tube/stock combo that works better for training women and children since they both have T-rex arms compared to the average AR shooter. Specifically when chambered in .22lr; since the bolt doesnt even go into the tube, there's no need for it to have such a long length of pull. Edit by PSA: Fixed the obvious "thats what she said" setup. drat.. hahahhahaa |
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