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Why are you so concerned over the casting flash in the trigger guard? Knock it down with a file, then blacken. But if you do nothing, it won't matter. All Colt lowers have a casting line in the trigger guard and usually have tool marks where they smoothed it on the assembly line. No doubt they should have knocked it down at the factory but they didn't. Military inspectors would not reject the gun for that. You are getting military quality with Colt, not a shiny commercial copy. The other stuff you called out is nit-picking and normal. View Quote This. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Why are you so concerned over the casting flash in the trigger guard? Knock it down with a file, then blacken. But if you do nothing, it won't matter. All Colt lowers have a casting line in the trigger guard and usually have tool marks where they smoothed it on the assembly line. No doubt they should have knocked it down at the factory but they didn't. Military inspectors would not reject the gun for that. You are getting military quality with Colt, not a shiny commercial copy. The other stuff you called out is nit-picking and normal. This. That's only because colt uses inferior cast receivers. Reputable manufacturers use forged receivers and they clean them up before sale. |
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Finally, someone who understands! Ask and you shall receive: <a href="http://s283.photobucket.com/user/05LT/media/IMG_20160426_220233_zps0aaknkqa.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk309/05LT/IMG_20160426_220233_zps0aaknkqa.jpg</a> View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Just curious. Did you do the paperwork on it already? If you did, why? You should have asked for a different rifle. That trigger area really looks like shit. I'd be disappointed. I'd talk to someone about it but if the transfer is already done I'd probably just fix it myself since the paperwork takes so damn long. Good luck Yes, I ordered it directly from a LE distributor, about 90 minutes away. I called them up, placed the order, paid for it, they sent me the forms once it came in from Colt, I did my part, sent the paperwork out to the ATF, 5 months later I get a call from the dealer to inform me that my stamp was in. I went to go pick it up and in all of the excitement I didn’t notice the inside of the trigger guard until I got home (not that it would have made a difference if I noticed the trigger guard at the dealer, the paperwork was already completed and it’s not like they could just give me another one). I guess I should have made the drive out there to check it out before completing the paperwork, but I never expected to receive something like that from Colt. Granted, “Colt makes war guns, not safe queens”… I get it. I do. That’s why I went with Colt. But come one, am I really “nitpicking”? Not nitpicking in my eyes. That looks like crap. I bought a 6933 from David Spiwak a few years ago and mine has none of the flaws yours has. I'd be pissed especially since it's an NFA gun. Since all the paperwork is done I guess you'll end up fixing it yourself. That sucks and I'd give the LE dealer an ear full for not checking it either. On the bright side, you have one of the coolest looking and best shooting rifles Colt makes, well except the ones with happy switches. Enjoy your new gun. Edit- how about a picture of the whole gun. They are sexy. Finally, someone who understands! Ask and you shall receive: <a href="http://s283.photobucket.com/user/05LT/media/IMG_20160426_220233_zps0aaknkqa.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk309/05LT/IMG_20160426_220233_zps0aaknkqa.jpg</a> They are purty. Now all you need is a DD omega handgaurd, stubby vertical grip, magpul ctr stock, aimpoint t2, geissele SD-C trigger and a vickers padded 2 point sling. Oh and a couple cases of ammo. I love spending other people's money Congrats. Enjoy. I know I love mine. |
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I'm surprised nobody has commented on the NFA status of it.
Colt's going to want to just swap out that lower if OP contacts them. But the lower is stamped. I doubt they're going to strip it, bead blast it, re-mark the rollmark, fix that trigger area, and then re-anodize. They're also not going to dupe the serial and destroy the original. It's going to be another $200 wasted for OP, and another 3-6 month wait. In you rcase, I think you HAVE to more or less live with it. |
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That's only because colt uses inferior cast receivers. Reputable manufacturers use forged receivers and they clean them up before sale. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Why are you so concerned over the casting flash in the trigger guard? Knock it down with a file, then blacken. But if you do nothing, it won't matter. All Colt lowers have a casting line in the trigger guard and usually have tool marks where they smoothed it on the assembly line. No doubt they should have knocked it down at the factory but they didn't. Military inspectors would not reject the gun for that. You are getting military quality with Colt, not a shiny commercial copy. The other stuff you called out is nit-picking and normal. This. That's only because colt uses inferior cast receivers. Reputable manufacturers use forged receivers and they clean them up before sale. Not sure if serious...? |
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On topic though, what is there that Colt can do about the lower? They can't replace the lower without a new stamp, can they? IMO I'd still call and see what they say as that is downright unacceptable for the trigger guard. That said, if I were the OP I'd get a refund/discount for getting a blem and clean the trigger guard up with a file and air sander to smooth it up, then finish with alumablack.
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Why are you so concerned over the casting flash in the trigger guard? Knock it down with a file, then blacken. But if you do nothing, it won't matter. All Colt lowers have a casting line in the trigger guard and usually have tool marks where they smoothed it on the assembly line. No doubt they should have knocked it down at the factory but they didn't. Military inspectors would not reject the gun for that. You are getting military quality with Colt, not a shiny commercial copy. The other stuff you called out is nit-picking and normal. This. Lol |
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If someone bought a BCM with this shit ARFCOM would explode. I get a bit tired of the excuses people give for Colt.
If it weren't for gov't contracts and the history, modern day Colt would be easily overtaken. |
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That's what they call Mil-Spec. You get that with a Colt. There poor excuse for selling seconds.
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I'm open to your thoughts, ideas, suggestions, etc. View Quote you bought a colt, thats what you get with colt. either deal with it, or buy a more refined brand |
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There was a time twenty or so years ago when almost ALL mil-spec forged-lowers from just about every single manufacturer, including Colt, had almost the exact same amount of left-over "flashing" not removed from the lower, especially in the trigger-guard area.
We've all become spoiled in the past decade or so with various manufactures selling "prettier", better-machined and finished lowers. Colt included. |
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If someone bought a BCM with this shit ARFCOM would explode. I get a bit tired of the excuses people give for Colt. If it weren't for gov't contracts and the history, modern day Colt would be easily overtaken. View Quote I would expect everybody to be pissed if BCM or Noveske put out something like this, we are talking a completely different class of guns, Colt in the civilian market is a working mans gun, does what it is suppose to do, without the refinement, but as I said, if your concerned, call them and see what they have to say. But with it being an NFA stamped item, it could turn into a real hassle. I would take a small needle file to it, clean it up and refinish that small area and shoot the shit out of it. |
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Colt, BCM, Noveske, LMT, blah, blah, blah!!!! It don't make a hill of beans what roll mark you're buying, you're gonna have stuff like that. Stuff slips through the cracks from EVERY shop to our doors. If it's doing what you want it to on the range and when the SHTF then like so many have said, fix it yourself and keep rolling. These are working man guns made to dirty and beat up. If you bought something for the shadow box then you wasted some funds. However I do find it funny that the Colt fan club is for the most part saying it's all good , it's Colt let'em slide. Cause if it were any other roll mark, then it would be the biggest hunk o' scat ever made, get a Colt or pound sand. It is what it is.
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For the most part, I won't buy a Colt, I do own 3 Colt's and they are NFA guns, but they were manufactured and had the shit beat out of them back in the 60's and the cosmetic flaws on them just add character!
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I love Colt almost as much as I love this thread.
File that sucker down, black it, and forget it exists. Once you start worrying about crap that doesn't matter, you'll always worry about crap that doesn't matter. To paraphrase a post from a "blem BCG" thread a month ago, "The only thing those marks hurt are your feelings." |
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I understand not liking it, but I think Id just clean it up and shoot the piss out of it.
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So OP, have you contacted Colt yet just to hear what they suggest/say?
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Contact Colt....I do not care what Colt worshippers say on here that is unsat.
Seen many Colt's in the service but nothing like yours. Every manufacturer no matter how good can every once in awhile miss something. I hope they work it out for you. |
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Thats really sad. But just echoes what my friends Colt looks like.... Crap. My PSA looks better that!!!
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Quoted: That's only because colt uses inferior cast receivers. Reputable manufacturers use forged receivers and they clean them up before sale. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Why are you so concerned over the casting flash in the trigger guard? Knock it down with a file, then blacken. But if you do nothing, it won't matter. All Colt lowers have a casting line in the trigger guard and usually have tool marks where they smoothed it on the assembly line. No doubt they should have knocked it down at the factory but they didn't. Military inspectors would not reject the gun for that. You are getting military quality with Colt, not a shiny commercial copy. The other stuff you called out is nit-picking and normal. This. That's only because colt uses inferior cast receivers. Reputable manufacturers use forged receivers and they clean them up before sale. |
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Michelin left those little tire nubbies on my new set of tires. Should I send them back?
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Its a Colt. It adds character and charm to the experience. I have a few that are worse than that. One of mine you can see the unfinished machining marks and the unbeveled edge on the front left side. One has a light purple anodizing that matches my upper which I have grown quite fond of. My most recent one which is a M4LE has the same excess trigger guard molding but I really didn't give 2 shits once the gun was put together. Now I wouldn't even notice it. It will not affect the future value 1%. Once you start using it you will create some new character marks. Colt usually just slaps some black paint over the mistakes. If I were you I would just get some black paint and slather it over the hole. Don't do a good job, make sure to use too much paint and let it dry in a glob. Then it will be more authentic Colt. Just enjoy it and know each colt is unique and yours is unique.
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Its been known for decades that colt rifles aren't the prettiest, you should expect some cosmetic flaw from a sub $1k colt rifle. If you wanted purdy you should have coughed up the cash for a noveske, larue, lwrc, etc.
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I love Colt almost as much as I love this thread. File that sucker down, black it, and forget it exists. Once you start worrying about crap that doesn't matter, you'll always worry about crap that doesn't matter. To paraphrase a post from a "blem BCG" thread a month ago, "The only thing those marks hurt are your feelings." View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
I love Colt almost as much as I love this thread. File that sucker down, black it, and forget it exists. Once you start worrying about crap that doesn't matter, you'll always worry about crap that doesn't matter. To paraphrase a post from a "blem BCG" thread a month ago, "The only thing those marks hurt are your feelings." This actually made me laugh out loud. The marks, yes, but the trigger guard is what I'm on the fence about. Quoted:
So OP, have you contacted Colt yet just to hear what they suggest/say? Not yet, I've been pretty busy at work lately and I'm just trying to get as much feedback as I can before I call, but I do plan on contacting Colt, if for nothing else, just to see what they say or how they handle this. I wonder what my options will be, if any. Many are telling me to just "send it back" but it's not that easy when dealing with NFA items. |
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Its been known for decades that colt rifles aren't the prettiest, you should expect some cosmetic flaw from a sub $1k colt rifle. If you wanted purdy you should have coughed up the cash for a noveske, larue, lwrc, etc. View Quote Oh man, so I over paid?! You must get an employee discount or something. If not, care to share where you found a 6933 for "sub $1k"? I get it... "Colt makes war guns, not safe queens...", that's why I bought a Colt, but where do you draw the line in what's acceptable and what's not when talking about "cosmetic flaws" and QC? ETA: Just to reiterate, this thread was not created to bash Colt. Thinking back now, I guess maybe I should have disguised the manufacturer of the rifle in question. I wonder how different these replies would be if I just posted pictures of the trigger guard area. |
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All mine (and I have over 10) Colt rifles are like that. Maybe not in those specific areas, but they all have something. If you send it back, they will send you one with the same blems in a different location. Colt's make weapons that go to war, not made to be a safe queen. If you want a safe queen, don't buy a Colt rifle. I say keep it, and enjoy a well made reliable gun. View Quote M brand new, out of the plastic M4 that went to war looked better than that. |
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Yea I would not lose any sleep over that
Others amongst arf would blow a gasket and go into DefCon 3 |
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Is it sharp enough to cut you? If not no biggie.
If so, it should probably be filed down to where it will not cause harm to the user of the weapon and the spot be re-anodized. For anyone saying he should do this himself; Any finishing machining or chemical treatment that needs to be done to the firearm to remove dangerous sharp edges or burrs should either be done by Colt, or done by a competent gunsmith and billed to Colt. It should never fall on the customer to do finishing work. Sooo what did Colt say?? |
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Just to reiterate, this thread was not created to bash Colt. Thinking back now, I guess maybe I should have disguised the manufacturer of the rifle in question. I wonder how different these replies would be if I just posted pictures of the trigger guard area. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Just to reiterate, this thread was not created to bash Colt. Thinking back now, I guess maybe I should have disguised the manufacturer of the rifle in question. I wonder how different these replies would be if I just posted pictures of the trigger guard area. It's almost like I saw the future! Quoted:
Just shoot it. Colt's finish quality has gotten worse over the past 10-ish years. It's been pointed out several times, but threads usually devolve into purse swinging about function over form. |
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You expect quality from Colt? My DPMS makes that look bad. And GASP! It has been 100% from day one. Not a glitch of any kind. You expect too much.
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You expect quality from Colt? My DPMS makes that look bad. And GASP! It has been 100% from day one. Not a glitch of any kind. You expect too much. View Quote Isn't that the truth, my DPMS Oracle looks perfect with no flaws at all and I have shot close to 10K rounds through it the last few months without a problem at all! |
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ARFCOM is weird. Half of guys are building new guns to look old, and the other half complain about tiny blems on mil spec guns.
My Colt is decades old and if looked at carefully has some casting flash and blemishes. An early Del-Ton lower is the most cosmetically perfect lower I have. Either way I don't much give a shit as long as they hold parts where they go and don't cut me. |
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There was a time twenty or so years ago when almost ALL mil-spec forged-lowers from just about every single manufacturer, including Colt, had almost the exact same amount of left-over "flashing" not removed from the lower, especially in the trigger-guard area. We've all become spoiled in the past decade or so with various manufactures selling "prettier", better-machined and finished lowers. Colt included. View Quote This Colt makes a Military grade rifle with a Military grade finish for....wait for it.....The Military. Aesthetically pleasing is not a Mil Spec...buy $3K Benelli shotgun for that. |
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This Colt makes a Military grade rifle with a Military grade finish for....wait for it.....The Military. Aesthetically pleasing is not a Mil Spec...buy $3K Benelli shotgun for that. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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There was a time twenty or so years ago when almost ALL mil-spec forged-lowers from just about every single manufacturer, including Colt, had almost the exact same amount of left-over "flashing" not removed from the lower, especially in the trigger-guard area. We've all become spoiled in the past decade or so with various manufactures selling "prettier", better-machined and finished lowers. Colt included. This Colt makes a Military grade rifle with a Military grade finish for....wait for it.....The Military. Aesthetically pleasing is not a Mil Spec...buy $3K Benelli shotgun for that. I'm more of a Browning guy. |
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Oh man, so I over paid?! You must get an employee discount or something. If not, care to share where you found a 6933 for "sub $1k"? I get it... "Colt makes war guns, not safe queens...", that's why I bought a Colt, but where do you draw the line in what's acceptable and what's not when talking about "cosmetic flaws" and QC? ETA: Just to reiterate, this thread was not created to bash Colt. Thinking back now, I guess maybe I should have disguised the manufacturer of the rifle in question. I wonder how different these replies would be if I just posted pictures of the trigger guard area. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Its been known for decades that colt rifles aren't the prettiest, you should expect some cosmetic flaw from a sub $1k colt rifle. If you wanted purdy you should have coughed up the cash for a noveske, larue, lwrc, etc. Oh man, so I over paid?! You must get an employee discount or something. If not, care to share where you found a 6933 for "sub $1k"? I get it... "Colt makes war guns, not safe queens...", that's why I bought a Colt, but where do you draw the line in what's acceptable and what's not when talking about "cosmetic flaws" and QC? ETA: Just to reiterate, this thread was not created to bash Colt. Thinking back now, I guess maybe I should have disguised the manufacturer of the rifle in question. I wonder how different these replies would be if I just posted pictures of the trigger guard area. Not sure how much you paid but dsg had them for $975 LE/Mil and $1050 Civilian last year. Doesn't look like dsg carries colt anymore |
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Pretty sure the government contracts colt not because of quality but because they were the lowest bidder.
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Actually over the years, Colt has had many other manufactures help them fulfill orders for the M/AR series rifles and there have been manufactures over the years that have had contracts with government to build battle rifles.
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