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Posted: 1/11/2012 1:06:42 AM
Seen here: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_2_282/203631_Differences_between_BAR_and_SAR_handguard_.html&page=1#i1748321
Originally Posted By badazzar15:
Originally Posted By Trumpet:
Will a KX3 or PWS CQB comp fit under a SAR? I know the KX3 will find under the SAR or SAR2. So what's different about the SAR2?  |
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badazzar15
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Posted: 1/11/2012 1:42:48 AM
Originally Posted By GeneralPurpose:
Seen here: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_2_282/203631_Differences_between_BAR_and_SAR_handguard_.html&page=1#i1748321 Originally Posted By badazzar15:
Originally Posted By Trumpet:
Will a KX3 or PWS CQB comp fit under a SAR? I know the KX3 will find under the SAR or SAR2. So what's different about the SAR2? The mounting system and a couple other slight changes. |
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Posted: 1/11/2012 3:10:47 AM
Interesting...I may one day replace my BAR with a SAR. By then you might be on the SAR4 anyway though. Thanks for the info.
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Posted: 1/11/2012 3:46:33 AM
Originally Posted By GeneralPurpose:
Interesting...I may one day replace my BAR with a SAR. [red]By then you might be on the SAR4 anyway though.[/SAR]. Thanks for the info. That's no lie. I improve or change our product line faster than the company can keep up with! |
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Posted: 1/11/2012 12:30:17 PM
Pics of SAR2?
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Posted: 1/11/2012 12:40:25 PM
Originally Posted By TXN_Infidel:
Pics of SAR2? 12" SAR 2 
8" SAR 2 (for MAR PDW) (This is Bryan from AIM's 5" 3 lug 9mm upper) 
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Posted: 1/11/2012 5:03:00 PM
If I put a LRS-2 on a 16" barrel can I use a 13.2 SAR? or will I have to use a BAR....
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Posted: 1/11/2012 5:05:52 PM
Originally Posted By TXN_Infidel:
If I put a LRS-2 on a 16" barrel can I use a 13.2 SAR? or will I have to use a BAR.... LRS will NOT fit inside the SAR. |
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Posted: 1/11/2012 5:06:25 PM
Is the 9" SAR 2 going to be available with only the front section railed like the 8" in the pic? If so I'm in, was going to order a 9" SAR for my middy project but would be willing to wait for a half railed SAR 2.
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Posted: 1/11/2012 5:16:58 PM
Originally Posted By badazzar15:
Originally Posted By TXN_Infidel:
If I put a LRS-2 on a 16" barrel can I use a 13.2 SAR? or will I have to use a BAR.... LRS will NOT fit inside the SAR. Thanks! BAR it is then. |
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Posted: 1/11/2012 5:36:37 PM
I am ready for a SAR2 13" or longer Spring relase date or sooner?
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Posted: 1/12/2012 5:18:31 PM
That looks amazing. Naturally, I just bought a 13.2" SAR.
I'm okay with that since it doesn't look like you'll have a SAR2 that long for while anyways. Curious though, as this may be well suited for my next build. I'm looking to do a biohazard set, with a 10"-12" barrel in 300BLK. What size SAR2's are coming down the pipe? Ideally, I would like to have the AAC 762-SDN-6 snugged up against the rail. Will you have anything coming in that fits that idea? |
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Posted: 1/13/2012 4:53:17 PM
The reflex mounting depth is 2.5", so on a 16" barrel that means it goes back to 13.5". I can't remember if the 13.2" SAR length is overall 13.2" or if it is 13.2" plus receiver extension (approx .7"). If the overall length on the 13.2" is actually 13.2", then it may sit just in front of the end of the rail. Let me check my 18" SPR upper when I get home and I can tell you for sure if it'll work.
Shoot me an email to remind me to check if you definitely want this answer (or I'll forget). |
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Posted: 1/14/2012 12:54:30 AM
[Last Edit: 1/14/2012 1:01:20 AM by v6pwr]
only if it had the tapered side rails in front, like the original sar...would look 300%better. or better yet, mirror the new back grooved-out tapered side rail in the front..maybe don't have to be as long and can shorten the tapered length, if that was a concern? but, shouldn't have just chopped it off completely! looks....chopped off up front! it lost the sar and bar looks, and now look like any other rail.
eta: have you guys considered this, but just left out that detail for some reason? i think that's why the overall looks of the sar2 is turning some people away.. maybe it's not too late to change this minor detail??  |
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Posted: 1/14/2012 7:57:57 PM
Ha to tell you sir bit I like that more of the forwad part of the rail is now us full instead of being tapered!
Do we have a weight of the new sar 2s? |
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Posted: 1/15/2012 3:40:57 AM
Originally Posted By sgwlower: Ha to tell you sir bit I like that more of the forwad part of the rail is now us full instead of being tapered! Do we have a weight of the new sar 2s? Please repost that sober. It is making my head hurt. =)~ |
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Posted: 1/15/2012 7:42:38 AM
[Last Edit: 1/15/2012 7:44:16 AM by sgwlower]
My apologies,
On the v1 Bar and Sar the forward part of the rail, although pretty and tapered, was useless and greatly cut down on useful rail space for forward mounting items such as weapon lights. I much prefer the new rail which is more useful till the end of each rail. On another note, do we have the new weights of each of the new SAR 2's? |
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Posted: 1/15/2012 3:40:37 PM
Yes, the side rails lose less space up front. The bottom rail is about the same, and the top goes all the way again. The weight difference will actually be marginal, as the mounting system is a little heavier, and the rail body is a little lighter. Don't have the exact weights yet as full production samples haven't made it in yet.
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Posted: 1/15/2012 6:52:33 PM
time frame. I have a 18" barrel coming from DSG and dont want to pull apart my 13.2 SAR from my other rifle
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Posted: 1/15/2012 11:27:32 PM
very nice. well be looking to forward to build another rifle.
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Posted: 1/16/2012 2:03:49 AM
Man...I'm always last to hear about everything. Interesting new design.
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Posted: 1/16/2012 10:59:25 AM
Originally Posted By JaxChris:
The reflex mounting depth is 2.5", so on a 16" barrel that means it goes back to 13.5". I can't remember if the 13.2" SAR length is overall 13.2" or if it is 13.2" plus receiver extension (approx .7"). If the overall length on the 13.2" is actually 13.2", then it may sit just in front of the end of the rail. Let me check my 18" SPR upper when I get home and I can tell you for sure if it'll work. Shoot me an email to remind me to check if you definitely want this answer (or I'll forget). Were you speaking to my question or the OP? |
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Posted: 1/16/2012 3:09:54 PM
It was your question. And after measuring my 18" SPR upper, it appears that the mounting collar will back up directly to the front of the 13.2" SAR, and there is a 1/4" of collar that the suppressor doesn't overlap. This means your suppressor will be as far back as safely possible without touching.
Get one of the Lothar Walther barrels for it if you plan to make it a marksman/mini-sass type weapon. Remember that whichever barrel you go with, a step will be needed on the barrel for mounting the alignment collar. |
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Posted: 1/23/2012 9:33:14 AM
Any idea if the SAR2 is going to be compatible with the Adams Arms piston kit?
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Posted: 1/23/2012 3:12:11 PM
Originally Posted By voodooridr:
Any idea if the SAR2 is going to be compatible with the Adams Arms piston kit? According to Tom because I ask the same question, the SAR2 will not be compatible. The SAR1 with the alignment shim kit will. I am still working on the upper. |
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Posted: 1/23/2012 3:36:49 PM
Well, Crap! Ok then, back to the drawing board.
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