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Unfortunately, we don't have any updates on the release of the Viper red dot at this time. We were having some issues getting the battery life to do what we wanted it to do.
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I just received a Venom today (after a couple months wait), which unfortunately was defective. Vortex is taking care of me, but I'm a little disappointed that the Venom didn't get a little more T&E before shipping. Might be one of the reasons the Viper was delayed.
The battery cover apparently has some design issues. They're working on a fix, and in the meantime they're sending me a replacement. I'd be interested to know if other folks have had the same issue. The rubber seal was removed from mine prior to it being shipped out, since apparently they're causing issues with not seating properly with a battery in the optic. Even without it, the cover will not thread in with a battery present. I love Vortex, but this is a bummer. |
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I picked up a Vortex Venom a couple of weeks ago and it has been good so far. The battery cover came off and back on with no problems. I used the tool that came with it to make it easier.
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Quoted: I just received a Venom today (after a couple months wait), which unfortunately was defective. Vortex is taking care of me, but I'm a little disappointed that the Venom didn't get a little more T&E before shipping. Might be one of the reasons the Viper was delayed. The battery cover apparently has some design issues. They're working on a fix, and in the meantime they're sending me a replacement. I'd be interested to know if other folks have had the same issue. The rubber seal was removed from mine prior to it being shipped out, since apparently they're causing issues with not seating properly with a battery in the optic. Even without it, the cover will not thread in with a battery present. I love Vortex, but this is a bummer. View Quote |
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The Venom can use the Burris FF3 plates/adapters. Also the Venom only offers a 3MOA dot which is for it's primary use on the AR-15 platform. The Razor is the higher end line of the venom (even though it's a tad older than the venom if that make sense). The Razor was developed for 3 gun competition and handguns primarily due to the fact you can get a 6MOA dot for the handgun platform or a 3MOA dot for longer range. The venom or razor will work great for the AR-15 platform on it's own or with a scope + red dot. The difference between them I believe is just the MOA availability and about the same difference between the PST and the Razor scope products lines. Both do relatively the same thing but the Razor is a tad "better". If you are just looking for something to play with on a shotgun or AR-15 at the range I would say pick up the Venom. If you want to do competition or tactical switching between short and long range rifling or handgun I would go with the Razor as you may find it a bit crisper to use. To Vortex - Has their been any developments on the Viper Red Dot? I would love to pick that up and I am continuing to wait on it. I will be using it on my custom Gen 4 Glock 17 Suppressor setup and need a decent optic! |
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Ok, my Venom arrived today......MAN that sucker is small. Anyone that has both can you tell me is the Razor the same size, except for having a beefier bottom section? Or is the Razor bigger all the way around? How about the glass? Is this portion also larger or the same?
Very nice, you can definitely see the good workmanship on it. Very happy, can't wait to see how it looks with the new riser that should be in soon also. I'm looking into a new rifle build and wanting to go very minimalist and as lightweight as possible. Hope this will work with it. Thanks, |
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Quoted: Can you tell me, is the Venom a new Razor upgrade or are they totally different optics? The basic question i guess I'm getting at is the Razor worth the extra $150-$200 price difference? Is one stronger and more reliable than the other, I haven't seen any comparisons on the two of them, guess cause the Venom is so new. What I understand the basic difference between the Venom and Viper are dot size? P.S. I'm also a big time Vortex Fan. I have a Strikefire, 2- Sparc II's, a new Viper PST 1-4 and a Venom on the way. Very good products for the price and it is true. I had an issued with my Stirkefire and you guys fixed it no questions asked in no time. Thanks for the Great Professional Customer Care. Robert This one is may all time favorite!!!!!!!!!!!! http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag67/tinstartio/Spikes%20SBR%201_zpsgbpxej1k.jpg View Quote |
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Quoted: The Venom can use the Burris FF3 plates/adapters. Also the Venom only offers a 3MOA dot which is for it's primary use on the AR-15 platform. The Razor is the higher end line of the venom (even though it's a tad older than the venom if that make sense). The Razor was developed for 3 gun competition and handguns primarily due to the fact you can get a 6MOA dot for the handgun platform or a 3MOA dot for longer range. The venom or razor will work great for the AR-15 platform on it's own or with a scope + red dot. The difference between them I believe is just the MOA availability and about the same difference between the PST and the Razor scope products lines. Both do relatively the same thing but the Razor is a tad "better". If you are just looking for something to play with on a shotgun or AR-15 at the range I would say pick up the Venom. If you want to do competition or tactical switching between short and long range rifling or handgun I would go with the Razor as you may find it a bit crisper to use. To Vortex - Has their been any developments on the Viper Red Dot? I would love to pick that up and I am continuing to wait on it. I will be using it on my custom Gen 4 Glock 17 Suppressor setup and need a decent optic! View Quote |
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Can anyone who has both the Venom and Razor red dot please take side by side pics so we can see how much of a difference they are. I have the Venom and I like it. I'm thinking about a Razor but just not sure if I want to drop the extra coin for it.
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Quoted: Can anyone who has both the Venom and Razor red dot please take side by side pics so we can see how much of a difference they are. I have the Venom and I like it. I'm thinking about a Razor but just not sure if I want to drop the extra coin for it. Thanks, Robert View Quote Otherwise I can just post them to here when I get back. It will be a few days before I get back. |
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Love Vortex. I have 3 Vortex scopes on my rifles. I purchased a Mossberg 500 recently and was thinking of putting the Venom on it. Would this be recommended?
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Quoted: Love Vortex. I have 3 Vortex scopes on my rifles. I purchased a Mossberg 500 recently and was thinking of putting the Venom on it. Would this be recommended? View Quote |
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Awesome!!
Thank you for your great optics and great customer service!! |
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Quoted: i would like a few comparison pics of all 3 models offered. View Quote http://s473.photobucket.com/user/Vortex-Optics/media/IMG_0571_zpsmrkfo87s.jpg.html http://s473.photobucket.com/user/Vortex-Optics/media/IMG_0572_zpsykle5ria.jpg.html The Viper is not on the market yet and samples seem to be pretty scarce around here at the moment so here are side by side comparisons of the Venom and Razor. Let me know if you need anything else on this. I'm happy to help. |
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Any idea how well a venom using the stock mount will co-witness on an AK with an Ultimak gas tube rail?
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It will be close, but probably not close enough that I can call it an honest cowitness. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Any idea how well a venom using the stock mount will co-witness on an AK with an Ultimak gas tube rail? Hmm, want to send me one for R&D Thanks for an honest response! |
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Haha wish I could, we are still just trying to dig out of the backorders!
Thanks for the interest. We really appreciate it and please let me know if you need anything else. I'm happy to help. |
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Hi,
I too have a Mossberg but a 590 with the factory 3dot sights. I would like to mount a venom on it but not on a rail. I feel using a rail makes it sit too high/far from co-witness. I'm trying to get as close to co-witness as possible with the front sight just incase I have an optics failure. Any suggestions on a plate to mount venom directly to receiver? Does anyone have experience using Burris fastfire plates with venom on 590? pics maybe? Thanks in advance. |
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Quoted: Hi, I too have a Mossberg but a 590 with the factory 3dot sights. I would like to mount a venom on it but not on a rail. I feel using a rail makes it sit too high/far from co-witness. I'm trying to get as close to co-witness as possible with the front sight just incase I have an optics failure. Any suggestions on a plate to mount venom directly to receiver? Does anyone have experience using Burris fastfire plates with venom on 590? pics maybe? Thanks in advance. View Quote |
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Are there any more updates on the Vortex Viper Red Dot? I was checking out the Vortex website and usually when you go to the Viper Red Dot information page, click on the MOA link for the specific item there is a big red "POSTPONED" where the MSRP is. It is no longer there.
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The postponed notation is still present on the top right portion of the screen in small red letters. We are hoping to have the Viper out sometime in 2016 but we can't be certain. Thanks and please let me know if you have further questions. I would be happy to help.
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No, only the Razor will mount onto that unfortunately. For the Venom, you will need to find a mount with a picatinny rail surface, or a Docter/Fastfire footprint.
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Anyone mounted a Venom on an AR yet? I have one I'm going to use for an AR Pistol build and I'm curious if I'll need a mount/riser or not. I assume it'll be too low without one. I'll be using a Thordsen cheek rest, if that matters.
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Yes, I have it on my Diamondback SBR. I had to purchase the AR15 Riser Mount for it to co-witness with my back up sights. Really nice and light. If you want to see a pic let me know, I'm at work, when I get home I can upload a pic. I really like it, I had a Vortex Sparc II on it and when I switched to this one, I'm sure it's a psychological thing but it feels way lighter.
The riser is made for the Razor Red Dot and the Venom is just a tad lower. Co-witness isn't dead on but pretty close. |
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Quoted: Yes, I have it on my Diamondback SBR. I had to purchase the AR15 Riser Mount for it to co-witness with my back up sights. Really nice and light. If you want to see a pic let me know, I'm at work, when I get home I can upload a pic. I really like it, I had a Vortex Sparc II on it and when I switched to this one, I'm sure it's a psychological thing but it feels way lighter. The riser is made for the Razor Red Dot and the Venom is just a tad lower. Co-witness isn't dead on but pretty close. View Quote A pic would be great! I'm not too worried about co-witness, mostly just wanting to get it at a proper height for cheek weld. Thanks! |
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Quoted: Here you go Brother.......Have a good one. http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag67/tinstartio/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsfnjxdigq.jpeg View Quote |
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Quoted: Quoted: Here you go Brother.......Have a good one. http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag67/tinstartio/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsfnjxdigq.jpeg That's the one you need. Thanks and let me know if you need anything else. I'm happy to help. |
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Quoted: http://www.vortexoptics.com/product/razor-red-dot-ar15-mount-with-quick-release-lever That's the one you need. Thanks and let me know if you need anything else. I'm happy to help. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Here you go Brother.......Have a good one. http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag67/tinstartio/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsfnjxdigq.jpeg That's the one you need. Thanks and let me know if you need anything else. I'm happy to help. Perfect, thanks! |
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Quoted: http://www.vortexoptics.com/product/razor-red-dot-ar15-mount-with-quick-release-lever That's the one you need. Thanks and let me know if you need anything else. I'm happy to help. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Here you go Brother.......Have a good one. http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag67/tinstartio/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsfnjxdigq.jpeg That's the one you need. Thanks and let me know if you need anything else. I'm happy to help. Merica!!!! |
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Thanks again, I really like the looks of it. I have one on the way.
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I see that the product page for the Vortex Viper Red Dot has been changed to Summer 2016 finally! http://www.vortexoptics.com/product/viper-red-dot-6-moa-dot --> Are there any updates or changes or product information you can tell us, esp about accuracy/glass compared to the Razor version and the battery life?
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You should start to see the Vipers trickling out to dealers here in the next couple of weeks! We'll be keeping everyone updated on tech specs asap!
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I'm doing some searching, trying to find a nice red dot for a glock with mos.
I've come across this vortex venom and its in my top 2 so far. Just curious if you think the venom will co-witness with glock suppressor sights? |
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For a Glock MOS I'd probably wait for the Viper as the slide cut with adapter plate may sit a bit high for suppressor sights. The Viper is 1.3mm lower than the Venom, so that would be my choice for the Glock MOS.
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Besides battery type, what else differentiates the Venom and Razor for use on a CZ Scorpion Evo3 S1?
I'm seeing the Venom has 12hr auto-off and ambient light sensor, while the Razor has 6hr auto-off. Razor has slightly bigger window, and a little bigger in width and height while being a fraction heavier. Looks like just a matter of preference for the most part, did I miss anything? |
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I actually think the venom will work better than cause my glock suppressor sights don't even clear the suppressor. That's what I wanted to check on. I didn't want to be looking at a dot on my suppressor. Thanks
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Oh I see! Yes- the Venom sits up a bit higher so that would work in theory!
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Quoted: Besides battery type, what else differentiates the Venom and Razor for use on a CZ Scorpion Evo3 S1?I'm seeing the Venom has 12hr auto-off and ambient light sensor, while the Razor has 6hr auto-off. Razor has slightly bigger window, and a little bigger in width and height while being a fraction heavier. Looks like just a matter of preference for the most part, did I miss anything? View Quote |
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...The Viper is 1.3mm lower than the Venom. View Quote I have a Viper on order for a 300blk, likely all subsonic rounds. I plan to get a 1/3 SOCOM height riser, which means an ADM riser with QD mount (made for the Burris FF). Seems to be the only mount/QD that's available that I'd like. I know 1.3mm is not much height to lose, but there's also the height difference between a Burris FF and the Viper red dot to consider. Questions... 1. Will the Viper dot be somewhere between 1/3-cowitness and absolute cowitness (from actual "eyes-on" real experience with the Viper, versus based-on "the math")? 2. Does the Viper hang-over the Burris designed mounts, by just a hair, like the Venom does? |
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