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Posted: 1/12/2012 10:44:08 AM
[Last Edit: 1/20/2012 3:54:41 PM by ArmaLite]
ARMALITE® INTRODUCES
TWO ADDITIONS TO THE AR-10® FAMILY NEW AR-10A RIFLES ACCEPT 3RD PARTY MAGS! NOTE: WARRANTY HAS BEEN CHANGED TO OUR LIMITED LIFETIME WARRANTY. (Geneseo, IL) ArmaLite, Inc. is pleased to announce the AR-10A. This new option of the famous AR-10 will accept traditional ArmaLite “waffle” magazines and some 3rd party magazines. ArmaLite customers asked for a choice, and that’s just what we’ve provided. The AR-10A family of ArmaLite® firearms is functionally identical to our AR-10B family. Operation, controls, and maintenance are the same. However, the AR-10A family is designed to accept early ArmaLite AR-10 “Waffle” magazines and good quality magazines copied from them, instead of ArmaLite’s proprietary steel magazines that are used in our AR-10B family. Neither family of firearms will function correctly with the other family’s magazines. We have tested, we recommend, and we ship polymer Magpul PMAG® 20LR magazines with our AR-10As. Other similar derivative magazines such as the KAC, M110, and DPMS / Remington 19 round magazines may fit and may function, but we have not tested them so we can’t assess their reliability. You can purchase extra PMAG®s from our website, www.armalite.com. The first members of the AR-10A family are the AR-10 Super SASS and the AR-10 A4 Carbine. Both will be formally introduced to the public on Tuesday, January 17th at the 2012 SHOT Show in Las Vegas. If you will be attending SHOT, please visit us at Booth 11771. ArmaLite has one of the broadest product lines in the firearms industry. We manufacture and sell semiautomatic rifles in a variety of calibers including 5.56mm and 7.62mm, long range super-accurate bolt action rifles in calibers including .308 Winchester, .300 Winchester Magnum, .338 Lapua, 50 BMG, and classic 9mm pistols. Visit ArmaLite at www.armalite.com. TECH NOTE 101 
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Posted: 1/12/2012 10:50:34 AM
[Last Edit: 1/12/2012 10:52:12 AM by Southrnshooter]
Not exactly sure what to say....
edit...should sell more rifles with the choice. I for one am very happy with mine and the steel mags. |
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BrowardMason
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Posted: 1/12/2012 10:55:04 AM
Will you sell just the stripped lowers? If so will the new stripped lowers work with the older internals?
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Posted: 1/12/2012 11:02:13 AM
In for a certain someone's meltdown.
Smart move. Now the original AR10 magazine is the standard for all. |
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remixer69
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Posted: 1/12/2012 11:06:36 AM
FYI,, Your links to armalite are coded wrong.. you have it as mailto
so when you click the link it opens our email programs |
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Posted: 1/12/2012 11:12:26 AM
Originally Posted By Southrnshooter:
Not exactly sure what to say.... edit...should sell more rifles with the choice. I for one am very happy with mine and the steel mags. We did this so that customers would have a choice. We're not abandoning our AR-10B by any stretch of the imagination. TR |
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Posted: 1/12/2012 11:14:57 AM
[Last Edit: 1/12/2012 11:17:59 AM by HK-USP]
I agree it is a smart "marketing" move to get more sales from new customers that are not sure about purchasing their rifles
because they use a proprietary steel mag that Armalite has based the AR10 platform on for several years. For the dedicated customers who already own one or more Armalite AR10s it is a little confusing. Will they discontinue the rifles and mags they use? What will happen to the value of their rifles if Armalite discontinues that line of rifles and magazines in the future or with 2 mag options on the rifle. |
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Posted: 1/12/2012 11:15:18 AM
Originally Posted By BrowardMason:
Will you sell just the stripped lowers? If so will the new stripped lowers work with the older internals? You would need to purchase the lower and upper receiver along with the new mag catch and bolt stop for use with the non-ArmaLite magazines. All other parts are the same. As stated in the announcement, the tech note will be on the website on Monday that will explain things much better. TR |
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Posted: 1/12/2012 11:19:40 AM
Originally Posted By olds442tyguy:
In for a certain someone's meltdown. Smart move. Now the original AR10 magazine is the standard for all. If you're speaking about LarryG, he already knows. TR |
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Posted: 1/12/2012 11:26:20 AM
Originally Posted By remixer69:
FYI,, Your links to armalite are coded wrong.. you have it as mailto so when you click the link it opens our email programs Changed it. Don't know why it did that. TR |
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Posted: 1/12/2012 11:29:45 AM
Originally Posted By HK-USP:
I agree it is a smart "marketing" move to get more sales from new customers that are not sure about purchasing their rifles because they use a proprietary steel mag that Armalite has based the AR10 platform on for several years. For the dedicated customers who already own one or more Armalite AR10s it is a little confusing. Will they discontinue the rifles and mags they use? What will happen to the value of their rifles if Armalite discontinues that line of rifles and magazines in the future or with 2 mag options on the rifle. As stated earlier, we're not abandoning the AR-10B by any stretch of the imagination. Wait for the tech note on Monday that will explain this for you. TR |
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Posted: 1/12/2012 12:16:30 PM
[Last Edit: 1/12/2012 12:18:55 PM by Southrnshooter]
Originally Posted By ArmaLite:
Originally Posted By HK-USP:
I agree it is a smart "marketing" move to get more sales from new customers that are not sure about purchasing their rifles because they use a proprietary steel mag that Armalite has based the AR10 platform on for several years. For the dedicated customers who already own one or more Armalite AR10s it is a little confusing. Will they discontinue the rifles and mags they use? What will happen to the value of their rifles if Armalite discontinues that line of rifles and magazines in the future or with 2 mag options on the rifle. As stated earlier, we're not abandoning the AR-10B by any stretch of the imagination. Wait for the tech note on Monday that will explain this for you. TR Looking forward to Monday and the tech note. I agree that this is a smart move to sell more rifles and eliminate some of the percieved issues others have had with Armalite mags. Not that I intend to ever sell my AR-10's, they will be passed to my boys, I can't help but feel they have decreased in value with this move and at that I am a little sad. I know get the sand out. 
Edit...someone check on LarryG |
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Posted: 1/12/2012 12:27:22 PM
This kinda sucks. This only means, in the near future, Armalite WILL abandon the M14 style of magazine. They will NOT be able to keep up production of them all forever. And, stopping all production of their own magazines will be cheaper.
I for one, do not like this move. Of all the things Armalite could have released, yall come out with this. Bah! For one, the rifle just looks funny with the Waffle mag or PMag. For some reason, the Armalite AR-10 does not "mesh" well visually with the waffle or Pmags. It just looks wrong. I honestly dont see why besides to get the uninformed buyer and now they will eventually scrap all that work on designing the GEN II mags. Not now, but it will happen. I wish yall would have released something more appealing to EVERYONE instead of just those who want PMags. Maybe, a COP style upper for the AR-10, or just a new rail, something besides a new upper and lower just for PMags. It just kinda seems like a slap in the face to those who have stood by Armalite and their decisions AGAINST the PMag. Complete makes all those arguments about the PMag vs the GEN II mag null and void. Is nothing sacred anymore?!?!  |
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Posted: 1/12/2012 12:29:13 PM
Originally Posted By Southrnshooter:
Originally Posted By ArmaLite:
Originally Posted By HK-USP:
I agree it is a smart "marketing" move to get more sales from new customers that are not sure about purchasing their rifles because they use a proprietary steel mag that Armalite has based the AR10 platform on for several years. For the dedicated customers who already own one or more Armalite AR10s it is a little confusing. Will they discontinue the rifles and mags they use? What will happen to the value of their rifles if Armalite discontinues that line of rifles and magazines in the future or with 2 mag options on the rifle. As stated earlier, we're not abandoning the AR-10B by any stretch of the imagination. Wait for the tech note on Monday that will explain this for you. TR Looking forward to Monday and the tech note. I agree that this is a smart move to sell more rifles and eliminate some of the percieved issues others have had with Armalite mags. Not that I intend to ever sell my AR-10's, they will be passed to my boys, I can't help but feel they have decreased in value with this move and at that I am a little sad. I know get the sand out.
Edit...someone check on LarryG This may kill the poor guy, didnt he just get out of a coma? |
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Rocksarge
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Posted: 1/12/2012 12:46:19 PM
In before Larry G
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Posted: 1/12/2012 12:54:30 PM
Choice is good. I see this as a good move allowing ArmaLite to bring in more sales (and maybe give us a mag sale j/k).
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Joe731
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Posted: 1/12/2012 1:20:12 PM
Dang. A month after I buy an AR10T and five magazines, this come out. This also probably won't help the resale value of the DPMS I was wanting to get rid of.
Originally Posted By crocodile427:
This kinda sucks. This only means, in the near future, Armalite WILL abandon the M14 style of magazine. Time to buy 'em cheap and stack 'em deep. Well, maybe just stack 'em deep. I honestly dont see why besides to get the uninformed buyer Well you have to admit there are a lot of those out there. Before, DPMS had two advantages: cheaper and Pmags. Now they're only cheaper, and barely. I would like to have seen an AR10 that took regular M14 mags, but I guess if it was possible they would have done that in the first place. |
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dtrosch
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Posted: 1/12/2012 1:34:39 PM
Can someone fill me on on the Larry G thing? Link to the threat?
(I'm an Armalite owner, but an AR-15 not an AR-10).
Thanks guys... |
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Posted: 1/12/2012 2:09:31 PM
This is kind of good, I live in a ban state and my AR10 is built on an off list Aero Precision Lower. Which is nice! BUT I'd love to have a rifle that says "ARMALITE"
Now the legal issue I have will it be classified as an off-list Lower according to CA Law?  |
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Derek45
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Posted: 1/12/2012 2:44:12 PM
Excellent idea
The M-14 mag was the best choice back in mid-1990's because of the Clinton assault rifle ban. Now that the ban has sunset, it makes prefect sense to use the original design, and PMAGS ect. |
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Posted: 1/12/2012 2:49:38 PM
Options are always a good thing. I myself like the GEN II Steel magazines. With the cost of tooling, I doubt you will see Armalite give up on the sale and manufacture of the GEN II magazines. As for me, as long as AR-10's area avaible with the GEN II magazines, those will be the ones I purchase.
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Posted: 1/12/2012 2:54:12 PM
Yeah, it definitely is a FU to the customers who are stuck buying your mags for an eternity as you now finally see the light and do something that should have been done long ago.
:I too will go get the sand out:  |
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Posted: 1/12/2012 3:44:38 PM
Originally Posted By crocodile427:
This kinda sucks. This only means, in the near future, Armalite WILL abandon the M14 style of magazine. They will NOT be able to keep up production of them all forever. And, stopping all production of their own magazines will be cheaper. I for one, do not like this move. Of all the things Armalite could have released, yall come out with this. Bah! For one, the rifle just looks funny with the Waffle mag or PMag. For some reason, the Armalite AR-10 does not "mesh" well visually with the waffle or Pmags. It just looks wrong. I honestly dont see why besides to get the uninformed buyer and now they will eventually scrap all that work on designing the GEN II mags. Not now, but it will happen. I wish yall would have released something more appealing to EVERYONE instead of just those who want PMags. Maybe, a COP style upper for the AR-10, or just a new rail, something besides a new upper and lower just for PMags. It just kinda seems like a slap in the face to those who have stood by Armalite and their decisions AGAINST the PMag. Complete makes all those arguments about the PMag vs the GEN II mag null and void. Is nothing sacred anymore?!?! Wow......that's a little harsh don't you think? I will repeat this again for the 3rd time, "we're not abandoning our AR-10B by any stretch of the imagination." We believe that our Gen II magazines are better than any on the market today. We're giving our customers an option. That is all. Don't read something into this that's not there. Also, we are in the process of developing a COP for the AR-10 but when that comes to fruition is unknown at this time. All is good, no need to panic. TR |
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Posted: 1/12/2012 4:33:14 PM
Well get the $&@% out of town!! Never would have guessed that this was coming. Smart move. Offer stripped uppers & lowers and you are even smarter.
I love this time of year maybe this Shot Show won't be the disappointment last years was. |
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Posted: 1/12/2012 4:36:15 PM
Originally Posted By ArmaLite:
Originally Posted By crocodile427:
This kinda sucks. This only means, in the near future, Armalite WILL abandon the M14 style of magazine. They will NOT be able to keep up production of them all forever. And, stopping all production of their own magazines will be cheaper. I for one, do not like this move. Of all the things Armalite could have released, yall come out with this. Bah! For one, the rifle just looks funny with the Waffle mag or PMag. For some reason, the Armalite AR-10 does not "mesh" well visually with the waffle or Pmags. It just looks wrong. I honestly dont see why besides to get the uninformed buyer and now they will eventually scrap all that work on designing the GEN II mags. Not now, but it will happen. I wish yall would have released something more appealing to EVERYONE instead of just those who want PMags. Maybe, a COP style upper for the AR-10, or just a new rail, something besides a new upper and lower just for PMags. It just kinda seems like a slap in the face to those who have stood by Armalite and their decisions AGAINST the PMag. Complete makes all those arguments about the PMag vs the GEN II mag null and void. Is nothing sacred anymore?!?! Wow......that's a little harsh don't you think? I will repeat this again for the 3rd time, "we're not abandoning our AR-10B by any stretch of the imagination." We believe that our Gen II magazines are better than any on the market today. We're giving our customers an option. That is all. Don't read something into this that's not there. Also, we are in the process of developing a COP for the AR-10 but when that comes to fruition is unknown at this time. All is good, no need to panic. TR Yeah as these mags are modded M1A mags you seriously think they are going to quit making them. Hell we still fight wars with M14's and the last time I attended a local Highpower competition there was two guys still shooting M1A's against all the AR's. |
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Posted: 1/12/2012 4:40:01 PM
Originally Posted By DavidGCalderone:
Options are always a good thing. I myself like the GEN II Steel magazines. With the cost of tooling, I doubt you will see Armalite give up on the sale and manufacture of the GEN II magazines. As for me, as long as AR-10's area avaible with the GEN II magazines, those will be the ones I purchase. I do too. And correct me if I am wrong Armalite but don't your Gen II mags allow a long COAL that I think only Larue's and Knights/LMT mags achieve in the other format. |
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