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Originally Posted By Freakinout:
I talked to Josh today, gonna visit him sometime this summer and maybe use a flame thrower in MT on my way. What's happening in the world of Josh? - Brother of Josh View Quote Sounds like a nice trip to see Josh. Fire!!! Insanity. Pure insanity. Josh. |
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Originally Posted By VolvotechT5:
Brother of Josh. Sounds like a nice trip to see Josh. Fire!!! Insanity. Pure insanity. Josh. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By VolvotechT5:
Originally Posted By Freakinout:
I talked to Josh today, gonna visit him sometime this summer and maybe use a flame thrower in MT on my way. What's happening in the world of Josh? - Brother of Josh Sounds like a nice trip to see Josh. Fire!!! Insanity. Pure insanity. Josh. Well Josh is kind of a PITA, but he's my only brother, plus WY is quite beautiful and much cooler than TX in the summer. Plus machine guns. Machine guns are awesome. Brother of Josh |
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Originally Posted By Defender3:
I received my package from Midway today that included a couple of Wilson gauges and a box of .260 Gorilla ammunition. The Gorilla is supposedly optimized for AR platforms and this match variant is loaded with a 130gr Berger hybrid. I hope to get it out to the range and do some accuracy testing as well as MVs. The brass is annealed and the OAL is well within the capabilities of the magazine. Does anyone have experience with the 130gr Bergers? I'm interested if these come in better at longer ranges rather than trying to group at 100 yards. TIA. In today's social update, I'll be at Quantico tomorrow to be certified as an RSO. I'm already a NRA RSO but the Marines have their own rules and course to be able to RSO on their ranges. Interesting is their course includes airspace and maritime, overhead fire, mortars, arty, AT-4s, etc., etc. I took the 4hr online pre-course and it was intense. Distance X, area B, batwing, Angle Q, my gosh, a lot more than I expected. In true Marine fashion (speaking as an AF guy), I take the pre-test at 0900 and if I pass, then I take the RSO course as 1300. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/IMG-4775-209071.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/IMG-4776-209072.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/IMG-4777-209070.jpg View Quote I just ordered a couple boxes to try out. |
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Originally Posted By Defender3:
Todays update deals with the Gorilla ammo. When I looked at the round it seemed the bullet was loaded far back into the case. I took a couple of pictures to show just how far the Berger 130gr is set in the case, obviously so it can load reliably in a gasser. I'll try and pull a round to see what kind of charge they are running. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/IMG-4778-209452.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/IMG-4779-209453.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/IMG-4781-209455.jpg Today's social update is a proud report that I am now a Marine Corps certified range OIC and RSO. I attempted to uphold the honor of the USAF (retired) but failed as I did answer one question incorrectly. I knew the answer but overthought the question. The classroom portion was at the Basic Course's Heywood Hall. It's a modern building with nice classrooms and there was a basic course of instruction occurring with probably 200 Lts, give or take a few. The fun fact of the course was that there are a lot of LaRue Targets being used on Quantico ranges, and I'm not talking the 100 pack paper grid targets. Don't forget to hydrate and you won't since there's a sign at every urinal. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/IMG-4783-209825.jpg View Quote Hoping those rounds aren't going to underperform based no the seating depth |
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Originally Posted By Defender3:
I've been known to have a couple of fingers...I have this (thanks to a trade with a Arfcommer) waiting for a good occasion. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/IMG-3562-2-116278.jpg As well as some others to sip. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/IMG-3528-110197.jpg I want to try these Gorillas at 600 to see what kind of performance they provide, as well as MVs. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Defender3:
Originally Posted By Freakinout:
So my bourbon colored pee is a bad sign? Should I drink more bourbon? Hoping those rounds aren't going to underperform based no the seating depth https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/IMG-3562-2-116278.jpg As well as some others to sip. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/IMG-3528-110197.jpg I want to try these Gorillas at 600 to see what kind of performance they provide, as well as MVs. I got some Buffalo Trace and another bottle of TX Whiskey today |
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Originally Posted By bfk4lyfe:
High west > eagle rare >>>>>>> buffalo trace. Spend the extra $5-$10 on the other two before ever buying buffalo again. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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Originally Posted By Defender3:
I've been known to have a couple of fingers...I have this (thanks to a trade with a Arfcommer) waiting for a good occasion. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/IMG-3562-2-116278.jpg As well as some others to sip. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/IMG-3528-110197.jpg I want to try these Gorillas at 600 to see what kind of performance they provide, as well as MVs. View Quote |
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I have Saturday open to get some shooting in. Hopefully a range report to follow. I unfortunately do not have the time to head up to the big range but should have no problem getting some distance out in the AZ desert.
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Because of this thread I have taken delivery of a LabRadar, Elite 1 Mile rangefinder and Kestrel Elite Weather Meter Applied Ballistics Combo. So far the AB books are great reading and the DVDs are very well done. Only time will tell if this old brain can still actually learn anything.
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Originally Posted By Fr8dog:
Because of this thread I have taken delivery of a LabRadar, Elite 1 Mile rangefinder and Kestrel Elite Weather Meter Applied Ballistics Combo. So far the AB books are great reading and the DVDs are very well done. Only time will tell if this old brain can still actually learn anything. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By Defender3:
I take no responsibility for an individual's decision to expend funds in support of any item(s), real or imagined, discussed in this thread, or the resulting matrimonial discord that could / will occur. Proceed at your own risk and when you do get the new toys, report your findings and observations so others may then similarly feed their obsession. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Defender3:
Originally Posted By Fr8dog:
Because of this thread I have taken delivery of a LabRadar, Elite 1 Mile rangefinder and Kestrel Elite Weather Meter Applied Ballistics Combo. So far the AB books are great reading and the DVDs are very well done. Only time will tell if this old brain can still actually learn anything. |
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Originally Posted By SuperJlarge:
I'd suggest .080-.095 if going from the AICS mags. My reamer is a .298nK and .088fb. Pretty sure Kiff sells it as a 260 tactical match. The .298nk eliminates the need to neck turn lapua. Works pretty good with 142's http://i455.photobucket.com/albums/qq278/large90217/3713BE8C-52C8-4C0D-9033-0860D04922E4.jpg View Quote Alpha Mags |
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Originally Posted By Defender3:
I take no responsibility for an individual's decision to expend funds in support of any item(s), real or imagined, discussed in this thread, or the resulting matrimonial discord that could / will occur. Proceed at your own risk and when you do get the new toys, report your findings and observations so others may then similarly feed their obsession. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By Defender3:
Today's update deals with better internet speeds and the dissection of one of the Gorilla rounds. I took the day off to get my FIOS upgraded to Gigabyte speed as they were having a promotion and I thought what the heck, let's add more power! The FIOS folks told me to put aside 4 hours for the upgraded to the outside and inside boxes. The tech arrived, cut a piece of Cat5e, spliced the connectors, installed the cable from the ONT to the modem, checked the speeds on his fancy tablet and he was done. I was like as I basically could have run the cable all of 5 feet and saved a day off (and the installation charge). Anyways, they guarantee 750mbs and I'm not doing too badly speed wise. I'm not sure what I'll do with such fantabulos speeds, but maybe I can stream five movies, run a movie server for the neighborhood and download big files all day. Wired speed test: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/IMG-4796-211786.jpg Wireless speed test: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/IMG-4795-211787.jpg I took one of the Gorilla rounds apart using the bullet puller to see what sort of powder charge they were using as they state the rounds are better optimized for gassers than a bolt gun. The projectile had a way to go before it separated: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/IMG-4797-211782.jpg The pulled round: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/IMG-4798-211783.jpg The powder charge weighed out to 38.9grs: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/IMG-4799-211784.jpg A close up of the powder incase someone can ID it: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/IMG-4800-211785.jpg View Quote |
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Looks like Varget and the charge weight hives with that too.
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I can't tell, but does it have a yellowish coating? If not, probably not Varget.
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It could be N-150 or N-550. I use N-160 quite a bit and it looks very similar (slightly shorter but same stubbiness), so it would make sense for the 150 and/or 550 to look like that.
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Jebus 800 megs... what are you gonna do with that. I hate to see that bill.
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Originally Posted By Defender3:
Today's update deals with better internet speeds and the dissection of one of the Gorilla rounds. I took the day off to get my FIOS upgraded to Gigabyte speed as they were having a promotion and I thought what the heck, let's add more power! The FIOS folks told me to put aside 4 hours for the upgraded to the outside and inside boxes. The tech arrived, cut a piece of Cat5e, spliced the connectors, installed the cable from the ONT to the modem, checked the speeds on his fancy tablet and he was done. I was like as I basically could have run the cable all of 5 feet and saved a day off (and the installation charge). Anyways, they guarantee 750mbs and I'm not doing too badly speed wise. I'm not sure what I'll do with such fantabulos speeds, but maybe I can stream five movies, run a movie server for the neighborhood and download big files all day. Wired speed test: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/IMG-4796-211916.jpg Wireless speed test: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/IMG-4795-211925.jpg I took one of the Gorilla rounds apart using the bullet puller to see what sort of powder charge they were using as they state the rounds are better optimized for gassers than a bolt gun. The projectile had a way to go before it separated: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/IMG-4797-211782.jpg The pulled round: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/IMG-4798-211783.jpg The powder charge weighed out to 38.9grs: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/IMG-4799-211784.jpg A close up of the powder incase someone can ID it: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/IMG-4800-211785.jpg View Quote Imr 4451 |
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Just got back from the desert. It will be too hot pretty soon to shoot down here. It hit 90* today and my phone with the AB app running kept overheating. I had gusting wind (5-10mph) at 6 o'clock that was pretty manageable. It was bright out which made it challenging for the lasers but the new Radius proved up to the challenge. I was able to get some data on the 130 TMKs with 4831 sc.
47.4 gr should be a winner. Sorry in advance for the crappy pics but as I stated before my phone was not working in the heat. I was mainly focused on using the ballistic app when I got it cooled off. I was shooting a 18" precision .223 and my trusty old .308 today as well and I have to say this .260 is boring. In a good way. Inside 800 yards hits are a given. Attached File Attached File |
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Originally Posted By rugerdog:
Just got back from the desert. It will be too hot pretty soon to shoot down here. It hit 90* today and my phone with the AB app running kept overheating. I had gusting wind (5-10mph) at 6 o'clock that was pretty manageable. It was bright out which made it challenging for the lasers but the new Radius proved up to the challenge. I was able to get some data on the 130 TMKs with 4831 sc. 47.4 gr should be a winner. Sorry in advance for the crappy pics but as I stated before my phone was not working in the heat. I was mainly focused on using the ballistic app when I got it cooled off. I was shooting a 18" precision .223 and my trusty old .308 today as well and I have to say this .260 is boring. In a good way. Inside 800 yards hits are a given. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/97915/IMG-0048-212721.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/97915/IMG-0054-212723.JPG View Quote |
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My Gorilla landed.
Looks like brass cases are stamped "Peterson" and leads me to.. https://www.petersoncartridge.com |
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Up by Boulder City,NV today. I do get down that way though.
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Originally Posted By rugerdog:
Just got back from the desert. It will be too hot pretty soon to shoot down here. It hit 90* today and my phone with the AB app running kept overheating. I had gusting wind (5-10mph) at 6 o'clock that was pretty manageable. It was bright out which made it challenging for the lasers but the new Radius proved up to the challenge. I was able to get some data on the 130 TMKs with 4831 sc. 47.4 gr should be a winner. Sorry in advance for the crappy pics but as I stated before my phone was not working in the heat. I was mainly focused on using the ballistic app when I got it cooled off. I was shooting a 18" precision .223 and my trusty old .308 today as well and I have to say this .260 is boring. In a good way. Inside 800 yards hits are a given. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/97915/IMG-0048-212721.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/97915/IMG-0054-212723.JPG View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By rugerdog:
Just got back from the desert. It will be too hot pretty soon to shoot down here. It hit 90* today and my phone with the AB app running kept overheating. I had gusting wind (5-10mph) at 6 o'clock that was pretty manageable. It was bright out which made it challenging for the lasers but the new Radius proved up to the challenge. I was able to get some data on the 130 TMKs with 4831 sc. 47.4 gr should be a winner. Sorry in advance for the crappy pics but as I stated before my phone was not working in the heat. I was mainly focused on using the ballistic app when I got it cooled off. I was shooting a 18" precision .223 and my trusty old .308 today as well and I have to say this .260 is boring. In a good way. Inside 800 yards hits are a given. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/97915/IMG-0048-212721.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/97915/IMG-0054-212723.JPG Repeat after me, it’s a dry heat. Ha, an Excursion, you could fit a fire team with gear in that thing, the only down side is 10mpg. Do you have any MV data for your .260, I believe you’re shooting the 18” version? Was the radius accurate? I thought mine was right on when I was at the 800 yard line. Originally Posted By mettee:
My Gorilla landed. Looks like brass cases are stamped "Peterson" and leads me to.. https://www.petersoncartridge.com |
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Mine is a 22". It just looks small on top of my station wagon. I've got the 7.3L diesel so mileage is about 14/ gal. So much better Next year it will be put out to pasture in favor of a new Raptor.
I am getting +/- 2790 with the factory 130 Hornady. With the 4831sc and the 130 TMKs I should be able to get to 2760 safely. I was pleased with their performance yesterday. I might end my cartridge development here until I get some H4350 in quantity. I need to find a spotter that lives close to me. It is hard to spot misses at distance. Lucky for me I don't have as many with this 260. When I was shooting my match.223 yesterday I gave up on the 1000 after 5 shots because I couldn't spot impact. To my surprise I had 2 hits on the right edge when checking targets. It was so bright and the mirage was running so big I couldn't see shit yesterday. Maybe getting old too. Let's see some more range reports. I know Mark has sold more than 5 of these things. Also I wonder when we will start seeing reports from the guys who got just barrels. |
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Originally Posted By Defender3:
Ha, 14mpg downhill with a tailwind! I should have paid attention to that barrel, clearly a 22" version. I'm officially old this month so I know what you mean about having a spotter. The nice thing about shooting at Quantico is you can see the impacts (most of the time) so you can do a hold, but having a spotter is so much better. I'm hoping people can get out and do some shooting since the weather is getting better. I'm running out of stuff to post. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/todd-hodnett-navy-seals-class-213084.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/todd-hodnett-larue-tactical-predatobr-213085.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/todd20hodnett-21-1-213086.jpg View Quote |
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Originally Posted By Defender3:
Thanks for keeping the thread alive with a range report! Repeat after me, it’s a dry heat. Ha, an Excursion, you could fit a fire team with gear in that thing, the only down side is 10mpg. Do you have any MV data for your .260, I believe you’re shooting the 18” version? Was the radius accurate? I thought mine was right on when I was at the 800 yard line. Now that's interesting. Mine is similarly marked, but my Alpha brass is stamped "Alpha" but it has a curly "a" to the side like the Gorilla / Peterson. I ordered 100 of the Peterson's this morning and it was $83.95 with shipping to the Commonwealth for 0.84 cents a round versus the Alpha which was $112.15 per 100 or $1.12 a round. View Quote The empty brass wasn't a bad price at all, the loaded ammo was 330 or so for 200 rounds with the berger ar hybrids, so I figured that is value added since that is one of the bullets I want to be able to use, Might grab 200 more sometime soon. D3, when you dismantled one of the gorilla rounds.... Was the powder varying in length? |
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Originally Posted By rugerdog:
Mine is a 22". It just looks small on top of my station wagon. I've got the 7.3L diesel so mileage is about 14/ gal. So much better Next year it will be put out to pasture in favor of a new Raptor. I am getting +/- 2790 with the factory 130 Hornady. With the 4831sc and the 130 TMKs I should be able to get to 2760 safely. I was pleased with their performance yesterday. I might end my cartridge development here until I get some H4350 in quantity. I need to find a spotter that lives close to me. It is hard to spot misses at distance. Lucky for me I don't have as many with this 260. When I was shooting my match.223 yesterday I gave up on the 1000 after 5 shots because I couldn't spot impact. To my surprise I had 2 hits on the right edge when checking targets. It was so bright and the mirage was running so big I couldn't see shit yesterday. Maybe getting old too. Let's see some more range reports. I know Mark has sold more than 5 of these things. Also I wonder when we will start seeing reports from the guys who got just barrels. View Quote I hear there are some tricks for when it ls that bright, and you can't focus in addition to the mirage. Kinda like a pair of sunglasses for your optic. If you don't mind trying it, grab some IMR 4451 |
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Originally Posted By mettee:
Did you go to 11' range day? Is was blowing like an sob, my legs got sand blasted. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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