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Originally Posted By aby:
These Stealth 2.0 uppers/lowers are pieces of shit, they were over valued to begin with. We were all beta testers, the BuildAR scam was just to fund development costs. I just finished building mine today and can't believe how out of spec/tolerance mine was, it required so much fitting and it's so rough I can't help but laugh. All I can do, after wasting around 2k, is be happy I have a new beater gun and learned a valuable lesson. View Quote 2k for a BuildAR rifle? What build kit did you use? |
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Originally Posted By sea2summit:
2k for a BuildAR rifle? What build kit did you use? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By sea2summit:
Originally Posted By aby:
These Stealth 2.0 uppers/lowers are pieces of shit, they were over valued to begin with. We were all beta testers, the BuildAR scam was just to fund development costs. I just finished building mine today and can't believe how out of spec/tolerance mine was, it required so much fitting and it's so rough I can't help but laugh. All I can do, after wasting around 2k, is be happy I have a new beater gun and learned a valuable lesson. 2k for a BuildAR rifle? What build kit did you use? I've got right at $2k in my RO build. |
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Originally Posted By jeep450:
I've got right at $2k in my RO build. View Quote What parts did you use? I'm at Lower&MBT: $300 ($599-$299 the 845 costs) Upper/barrel: $649 Poly: $55.93 Break: $99 Gasblock/tube: 84.99 Sub total: $1,188.92 Need BCG, LPBK, so maybe $350 if I go pretty quality on the BCG...still doesn't get me close to $2K. ETA gasblock/tube |
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I have to say I am very happy with the fit/ finish of my 2.0 build. Pics and parts list are in the 2.0 BuildAR pics thread. This is my first Keymod build and I was initially worried about the look, but the Bravo Company panels finished it off nicely. Finally got it out to the ranch yesterday to fine tune the SLR Sentry Seven adjustable gas block and SF SOCOM 556 RC suppressor. Did some early testing at short ranges with multiple optics to figure out which would work best for an upcoming rifle course ( Troy BUIS, Aimpoint T2, Leupold VX Patrol 1-6, and ACOG T31F). Very easy to tune the gas block/ suppressor combo (using BH 77 gr OTM blue box ), and ran flawlessly. I recommend getting the 13" 2mm ball end driver from SLR. The extra length makes it easy to dial in adjustments around a can or with long hand guard. Easy wipe down of the Toolcraft BCG with the Cryptic Coating Magic Silver coating at cleanup. Using a Stealth 16" barrel currently, but will probably change it out for the Qtr 5 20" Stealth after the rifle course to make it the Yote gun, as S2S mentioned earlier. Anyway, my 2 cents. YMMV.
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Originally Posted By sea2summit:
What parts did you use? I'm at Lower&MBT: $300 ($599-$299 the 845 costs) Upper/barrel: $649 Poly: $55.93 Break: $99 Sub total: $1,103.93 Need BCG, LPBK, so maybe $350 if I go pretty quality on the BCG...still doesn't get me close to $2K. View Quote Still missing an RE, gas block/tube for another 150 which puts you at 1600 and you haven't added irons/optic so 2k isn't unreasonable |
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Originally Posted By JesseCJC:
Still missing an RE, gas block/tube for another 150 which puts you at 1600 and you haven't added irons/optic so 2k isn't unreasonable View Quote Rolled up the RE and nut in the LPBK. Did forget the gasblock/tube so lets say $85 more if I go straight LT, which is my current intent. Since optics aren't made by LT why is LT getting blamed for a 2K rifle if that's not part of the program, that's shooter preference. I will be well over 2K with optics |
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I was rough figuring in my head to get close to $2k. BCM BCG I used was $200. Could cut that price to $75-$100 by buying a no name.
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nevermind.
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Originally Posted By aby:
These Stealth 2.0 uppers/lowers are pieces of shit, they were over valued to begin with. We were all beta testers, the BuildAR scam was just to fund development costs. I just finished building mine today and can't believe how out of spec/tolerance mine was, it required so much fitting and it's so rough I can't help but laugh. All I can do, after wasting around 2k, is be happy I have a new beater gun and learned a valuable lesson. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By jeep450:
Never mind what? We could have bought a PredatAR complete rifle for about the same money. It wouldn't be a 2.0 and I'm fine with that but how cheap do you think this buildAR program is. View Quote No you couldn't, I did my math and posted above. You "figured" 2k, where's your numbers? Ohh don't forget you got a $600 gift card for $400. |
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larue upper $400
larue lower $600 larue barrel,gas block&tube, trigger, flash hider, extension plate and nut, furniture kit $591 BCM bcg and parts kit and charge handle $360 $1951 total plus shipping and less what you want to allow for the triggers and the mount that had to be purchased with the lower and the bcm grip. add into the rarity of a LT RO rifle build |
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Originally Posted By jeep450:
larue upper $400 larue lower $600 larue barrel,gas block&tube, trigger, flash hider, extension plate and nut, furniture kit $591 BCM bcg and parts kit and charge handle $360 $1951 total plus shipping and less what you want to allow for the triggers and the mount that had to be purchased with the lower and the bcm grip. add into the rarity of a LT RO rifle build View Quote You paid $600 for an LT lower? I figured my cost on the 300BLk right at $2000, including scope and mount. But then, I paid $200 for the LT lower. |
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Originally Posted By aby:
These Stealth 2.0 uppers/lowers are pieces of shit, they were over valued to begin with. We were all beta testers, the BuildAR scam was just to fund development costs. I just finished building mine today and can't believe how out of spec/tolerance mine was, it required so much fitting and it's so rough I can't help but laugh. All I can do, after wasting around 2k, is be happy I have a new beater gun and learned a valuable lesson. View Quote ...Uhhh...Whut?... |
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Originally Posted By Draconis:
...Uhhh...Whut?... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Draconis:
Originally Posted By aby:
These Stealth 2.0 uppers/lowers are pieces of shit, they were over valued to begin with. We were all beta testers, the BuildAR scam was just to fund development costs. I just finished building mine today and can't believe how out of spec/tolerance mine was, it required so much fitting and it's so rough I can't help but laugh. All I can do, after wasting around 2k, is be happy I have a new beater gun and learned a valuable lesson. ...Uhhh...Whut?... yea lol since they recently shipped and they bill when they ship how did they fund any development? |
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Originally Posted By jeep450:
larue upper $400 larue lower $600 larue barrel,gas block&tube, trigger, flash hider, extension plate and nut, furniture kit $591 BCM bcg and parts kit and charge handle $360 $1951 total plus shipping and less what you want to allow for the triggers and the mount that had to be purchased with the lower and the bcm grip. add into the rarity of a LT RO rifle build View Quote Get a second hand lower? |
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"Iran is playing with fire - they don't appreciate how 'kind' President Obama was to them. Not me!" The President DJT
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Originally Posted By jeep450:
larue upper $400 larue lower $600 larue barrel,gas block&tube, trigger, flash hider, extension plate and nut, furniture kit $591 BCM bcg and parts kit and charge handle $360 $1951 total plus shipping and less what you want to allow for the triggers and the mount that had to be purchased with the lower and the bcm grip. add into the rarity of a LT RO rifle build View Quote ...$600 on the stripped lower or complete lower?....When I ordered my BuildAR stripped, with the LT845, last May it was $399.... ...Anyway, y'all got me thinking so I looked back and I *could* be at around $1600 for a functioning BuildAR rifle without optics.... $484 Taste of Texas (Poly, barrel, trigger plus GB and GT) $399 Upper $399 Lower and LT845 $50 Vltor A5 buffer system $55 LT buffer tube $100 BCG $30 LPK $60 charging handle $10 MD ------------ $1587 total ...Now I did say I *could* have but the final product has a different grip, different stock, adjustable gas block, Lantac MD and Vortex glass so it tops out weeeeellll over $2k...but it could be done for under the standard Ptar price.. ...Just sayin... |
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Lower and 845 mount were 400.... then sold the mount for 250 and lower was then 150.
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I'm right around $1300 into the Stealth 2.0 rifle alone without irons or optic, those will run me around $1000 (Aimpoint T-2 & Troy BUIS). It's entirely LaRue aside from LPK and BCG. Overall though, the program itself has cost much more.
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Originally Posted By Ajcrash:
I'm right around $1300 into the Stealth 2.0 rifle alone without irons or optic, those will run me around $1000 (Aimpoint T-2 & Troy BUIS). It's entirely LaRue aside from LPK and BCG. Overall though, the program itself has cost much more. View Quote ....True...The $600 gift card and the Pelican case, added in, would push it up $800...then if you took the value of the gift card back out, that puts it at a $200 add to the cost of the rifle to stay in the game.... ....Personally, I don't think I 'got took' in any way...I got more than face value for each dollar spent IMHO... |
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Other than ABY, I don't think anybody is saying they got took. Are they?
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Originally Posted By jeep450:
yea lol since they recently shipped and they bill when they ship how did they fund any development? View Quote Simple they have guaranteed orders, say 10% cancelled then thy could still budget to receive 90% of the money people committed to in the BuildAR. Personally I haven't found anything to be a deal. Even paying $200 for a LT lower, it's one of the most basic billet lowers I've seen, not worth anywhere near $200 except to fanboys. I sold all my BuildAR stuff for a little profit. Glad I'm rid of it. Invested that money in something better. |
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It's ridiculous. People whining about something they never had to get involved in.
I don't recall Mark saying you were going to get a rifle for cheap. I don't recall Mark saying anything other than it was an opportunity to get stuff every quarter for as long as it lasted. I'm happy with how things are going and was hoping the case weeded out the rest of the whiners but it doesn't seem so. |
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Originally Posted By aby:
These Stealth 2.0 uppers/lowers are pieces of shit, they were over valued to begin with. We were all beta testers, the BuildAR scam was just to fund development costs. I just finished building mine today and can't believe how out of spec/tolerance mine was, it required so much fitting and it's so rough I can't help but laugh. All I can do, after wasting around 2k, is be happy I have a new beater gun and learned a valuable lesson. View Quote Thank you. And they say the 13'ers are . You make us look great. |
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Originally Posted By kybluegrass78:
I haven't tried putting mine together, yet. I have been surprised to see so many LaRue faithful listing theirs so quickly on the EE. My RO upper and lower look amazing sitting in the plastic. What's the issue with these? View Quote Long story short, the anodizing on my RO set is much too thick and they didn't take this in to account when machining. They also didn't have a good design or QC procedure to ensure their parts will fit. On the upper, the front lug was a few thousandths too large, the rear at least 8 thousandths over. My upper/lower didn't fit at all. Had to completely file off the rear lug anodizing just to get the upper receiver to close on the lower, but the rear pin didn't fit so had to ream/file both the upper and lower. I had an AR Gold waiting for this build for over 6 months, but it doesn't fit with the safety, instead of filing my lower or trigger I just used a mil spec and cut a coil off the safety detent spring. The lower assembly was a pain, buffer tube retainer pocket needed to be cleaned up and front/rear takedown pins didn't fit, used drill bits by hand. My new colt bcg and bcm ch are very rough, sluggish, and have serious finish wear after a few hand cycles, even after a few hundred rounds the burnt smell of anodizing is very strong. Just evidence how the upper/lower are out of spec or of poor dimensions. Side note that mags don't easily drop free. Besides assembly problems, my upper came with dents and chips and lower has serious blemish during anodizing. Those don't bother me, just noting the poor product. All in, first quarter was $700, second was $400, third was $400, fourth was $450, that's $1950+ needed gas block, gas tube, lpk, bcg, stock with buffer kit, grip, and muzzle device. I'm not mad, I suspected at the start of the fourth quarter that I could buy a complete rifle cheaper than "BuildAR." I'm saying this was a brilliant marketing strategy and we're paying beta testers. They didn't have the kinks worked out, remember they showed this at the 2015 shot show and they likely knew the reardon oxide anodizing needs some experimentation/tweaking, so why not have people buy crap so they can figure it out. |
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Originally Posted By sea2summit:
2k for a BuildAR rifle? What build kit did you use? View Quote $700 first quarter, $400 second, $400 third, $450 fourth. Plus I had to pay 8% tax on the $400 shipment with the lower, plus $75 transfer fee, plus $25 background check fee. Then there's the lpk, stock kit, bcg, gas tube, gas block, grip, and muzzle device. Counting the silly $450 case from December I'm in for a lot. You can say the case doesn't count, and that's fine, take off $450 and I'm still about 2k for this build. And yes mine is finished and saw it's first few hundred rounds at the range today. Shot great. |
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Been a pleasure, I wish you all the best, take care!
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Originally Posted By aby:
Been a pleasure, I wish you all the best, take care! View Quote If you were dissatisfied at any point in the process with the quality of any of the products, you could have contacted LaRue and the problem would have easily been taken care of. Instead, you failed to do so and decided to publicly display childish behavior, whining about your problems as if the world is out to get you. The upper-to-lower fitment issue is VERY rare and I personally had that problem a couple of years ago with a regular Stealth upper fitting to a LT Lower. Yours and mine are the only two I've ever heard of. But you know what? I filed mine without screaming like a girl and mated it with the lower, because it's a freaking tool. It throws rocks very fast and very accurately. If you can't abide that concept I understand, as it is consistent with your post. But as you say, it's been fun. |
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I had to take crocus cloth to the lugs of my RO upper to get it to fit to the lower also. First time I've said anything about it here. I didn't think anything of it other than hand fitting them together.
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Interesting about the ARG - that's a drop in trigger that was used previously in the LaRue rifles. If the lower is spec, I can't see how it would be a LaRue issue if the ARG won't fit. Can you elaborate?
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Anyone have a new/unfired 16" PredatAR barrel they'd be interested in trading for a new/unfired Stealth barrel?
I'd prefer rifle feedramps, but would consider taking one with M4 ramps if I can't find someone with rifle ramps. I was going to pin/weld a FH on a 14.5" for this build, but think I'd rather just have a light weight 16" now. I'd prefer to trade straight up for my 14.5" Stealth barrel, but may also trade one of the following unfired stealth barrels if I can't find someone interested in the 14.5": 12" Rifle Feedramp Stealth Barrel 16" M4 Feedramp Stealth Barrel (14.5" Rifle Feedramp Stealth Barrel that was mentioned initially) I figure we both pay for shipping and insurance if trading. Thanks! |
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Originally Posted By jeep450:
I had to take crocus cloth to the lugs of my RO upper to get it to fit to the lower also. First time I've said anything about it here. I didn't think anything of it other than hand fitting them together. View Quote I'll probably have to do the same. I'm sure I could hit it with my purse and get it to go; then allow it to work in. Only tried the front lug so far and if the rear lug is anywhere near as tight I think a few minutes with a crocus cloth will be time well spent without taking off too much anodizing. No big deal though. |
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Longest of long shots but I'm looking for another RO lower.
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I am looking for a RO 13" handguard ONLY. I have a 10.5" RO handguard to trade. I also have a 13" Stealth with upper in black that I will trade a 13" RO Stealth upper for.
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Originally Posted By spizike9:
It's because the upper and hand guard are different types of aluminum. I wish I would have ordered a black LaRue lower instead of the RO. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By JasonblkZ06:
I was told they are the same aluminum, just were finished at different times and the finish is inconsistent since they hadn't done it before. I am starting to think we were beta testers. Purplish colored triggers, mismatched rails and upper finishes, unmatched receiver sets, overstocked overpriced rifle cases. Just a marketing move to get rid of first run slightly off product that couldn't be sold for full retail? View Quote Well give me some more of that stuff that can't be sold at full retail |
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