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Originally Posted By sgwlower:
Pics of groups? Pics of finished rifle? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By sgwlower:
Originally Posted By MrNevada:
0.4 moa. Get the barrel nice and hot and when it should do the worst, and it shoots a .7 MOA. It's a shooter! Pics of groups? Pics of finished rifle? I don't think he wants to show it for certain special reason |
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Originally Posted By mettee: I don't think he wants to show it for certain special reason View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By mettee: Originally Posted By sgwlower: Originally Posted By MrNevada: 0.4 moa. Get the barrel nice and hot and when it should do the worst, and it shoots a .7 MOA. It's a shooter! Pics of groups? Pics of finished rifle? I don't think he wants to show it for certain special reason Based on the crowds and how long we waited for the cease fire to hang the targets I'd bet he didn't get them. But it Shot well with FGMM. It's a nice rig, balances nice and is as unique as they come. It's a great option for those with predatars that want a heavier profile barrel. |
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Oh by the way, I had a witness....... (That guy up there) |
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I'm not doubting group size at all brother.
So you are confirming it's a 762 |
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[#8]
Originally Posted By MrNevada:
Da Gun!! (I shot the groups today with this optic, but I'll be changing it to something with more panache shortly. Also, I changed from the Schuler brake to the APA Little-B. Although this M118 mag lets me load them out a little, I'll probably need the extra length that the LaRue mag offers.) http://i994.photobucket.com/albums/af70/thebelly925/Mobile%20Uploads/20160203_181758_zpseglm9cmx.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By MrNevada:
Originally Posted By sgwlower:
Originally Posted By MrNevada:
0.4 moa. Get the barrel nice and hot and when it should do the worst, and it shoots a .7 MOA. It's a shooter! Pics of groups? Pics of finished rifle? Da Gun!! (I shot the groups today with this optic, but I'll be changing it to something with more panache shortly. Also, I changed from the Schuler brake to the APA Little-B. Although this M118 mag lets me load them out a little, I'll probably need the extra length that the LaRue mag offers.) http://i994.photobucket.com/albums/af70/thebelly925/Mobile%20Uploads/20160203_181758_zpseglm9cmx.jpg How are you managing the fundamentals and recoil to shoot that tight a group? I tend to shoot a bolt gun better since there are less forces acting against me than with a gas gun that has quite a bit going on before that round exits the barrel. |
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[#9]
Originally Posted By MrNevada:
you're pretty stuck on that, huh? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By MrNevada:
Originally Posted By mettee:
I'm not doubting group size at all brother. So you are confirming it's a 762 you're pretty stuck on that, huh? Did you have to sign a non-disclosure. |
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[#11]
Originally Posted By Defender3:
How are you managing the fundamentals and recoil to shoot that tight a group? I tend to shoot a bolt gun better since there are less forces acting against me than with a gas gun that has quite a bit going on before that round exits the barrel. View Quote It's nothing more than ruthless adherence to the fundamentals... and dry firing your ass off. I must have dry-fired for a good 10-15 minutes before I even put a magazine in the gun. Use a very refined point of aim (relative to the magnification level and reticle in your optic). because I have a 10x on top, I was able to use a 3/4" dot as a pretty refined point of aim, using the cross hairs to divide the dot into four smaller sections. Then watch how the reticle jumps when the gun goes click. If the reticle moves (even a little bit), then you didn't have everything lined up correctly to begin with. With higher magnification, I can have an even more refined point of aim, and thus an even lower tolerance for reticle jump during dry fire. **ETA** I'd like to hear your thoughts about what forces are being exerted on the after the shot but before the bullet leaves the bore, and then how those forces directly correlate to the accuracy of the gun. |
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[#12]
Originally Posted By MrNevada:
you're pretty stuck on that, huh? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By MrNevada:
Originally Posted By mettee:
I'm not doubting group size at all brother. So you are confirming it's a 762 you're pretty stuck on that, huh? If you say so. |
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[#13]
Originally Posted By MrNevada:
you're pretty stuck on that, huh? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By MrNevada:
Originally Posted By mettee:
I'm not doubting group size at all brother. So you are confirming it's a 762 you're pretty stuck on that, huh? Where does the gas block measure on that 20" non disclosed caliber barrel? |
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[#14]
Originally Posted By MrNevada:
It's nothing more than ruthless adherence to the fundamentals... and dry firing your ass off. I must have dry-fired for a good 10-15 minutes before I even put a magazine in the gun. Use a very refined point of aim (relative to the magnification level and reticle in your optic). because I have a 10x on top, I was able to use a 3/4" dot as a pretty refined point of aim, using the cross hairs to divide the dot into four smaller sections. Then watch how the reticle jumps when the gun goes click. If the reticle moves (even a little bit), then you didn't have everything lined up correctly to begin with. With higher magnification, I can have an even more refined point of aim, and thus an even lower tolerance for reticle jump during dry fire. **ETA** I'd like to hear your thoughts about what forces are being exerted on the after the shot but before the bullet leaves the bore, and then how those forces directly correlate to the accuracy of the gun. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By MrNevada:
Originally Posted By Defender3:
How are you managing the fundamentals and recoil to shoot that tight a group? I tend to shoot a bolt gun better since there are less forces acting against me than with a gas gun that has quite a bit going on before that round exits the barrel. It's nothing more than ruthless adherence to the fundamentals... and dry firing your ass off. I must have dry-fired for a good 10-15 minutes before I even put a magazine in the gun. Use a very refined point of aim (relative to the magnification level and reticle in your optic). because I have a 10x on top, I was able to use a 3/4" dot as a pretty refined point of aim, using the cross hairs to divide the dot into four smaller sections. Then watch how the reticle jumps when the gun goes click. If the reticle moves (even a little bit), then you didn't have everything lined up correctly to begin with. With higher magnification, I can have an even more refined point of aim, and thus an even lower tolerance for reticle jump during dry fire. **ETA** I'd like to hear your thoughts about what forces are being exerted on the after the shot but before the bullet leaves the bore, and then how those forces directly correlate to the accuracy of the gun. Thanks, I'll give that a try. I was using my scope on 20X to the point I could see my heartbeat translate to the crosshairs; I need to dial that down a bit. I have to focus on finger placement so I pull the trigger the same way, and straight back, so I don't introduce a side force that could affect the shot, etc., etc. As to after the shot, I probable should have said fundamentals as thinking about a bit more, the bullet has long exited the bore before Newtonian physics has time to affect you in recoil. However, shouldering the rifle so it's firm versus a loose method where it could slap your shoulder and getting a good shoulder pocket is another fundamental that could affect the shot. |
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[#15]
Originally Posted By mettee:
Where does the gas block measure on that 20" non disclosed caliber barrel? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By mettee:
Originally Posted By MrNevada:
Originally Posted By mettee:
I'm not doubting group size at all brother. So you are confirming it's a 762 you're pretty stuck on that, huh? Where does the gas block measure on that 20" non disclosed caliber barrel? Rifle length. |
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[#16]
Originally Posted By mettee:
Originally Posted By MrNevada:
Originally Posted By mettee:
I'm not doubting group size at all brother. So you are confirming it's a 762 you're pretty stuck on that, huh? If you say so. |
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Originally Posted By Defender3:
Thanks, I'll give that a try. I was using my scope on 20X to the point I could see my heartbeat translate to the crosshairs; I need to dial that down a bit. I have to focus on finger placement so I pull the trigger the same way, and straight back, so I don't introduce a side force that could affect the shot, etc., etc. As to after the shot, I probable should have said fundamentals as thinking about a bit more, the bullet has long exited the bore before Newtonian physics has time to affect you in recoil. However, shouldering the rifle so it's firm versus a loose method where it could slap your shoulder and getting a good shoulder pocket is another fundamental that could affect the shot. View Quote CONSISTENCY is one of the keys to accuracy. I dry fire about 75x as much as I actually shoot, just to make sure that everything is as exactly the same as I can get it. |
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[Last Edit: MrNevada]
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I would very greatly appreciate it if someone could run that through ontarget.
The bullet size is .308, the square size is 1 inch, and that's a 5 shot group from 102 yards. |
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What's your ammo recipe sir?
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Originally Posted By MrNevada: 42.5 Varget. 175 TMK. 2.850" OAL. I have to use the LaRue mag View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By MrNevada: Originally Posted By sgwlower: What's your ammo recipe sir? 42.5 Varget. 175 TMK. 2.850" OAL. I have to use the LaRue mag |
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[#24]
Originally Posted By MrNevada:
42.5 Varget. 175 TMK. 2.850" OAL. I have to use the LaRue mag View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By MrNevada:
Originally Posted By sgwlower:
What's your ammo recipe sir? 42.5 Varget. 175 TMK. 2.850" OAL. I have to use the LaRue mag Damn close to what I am running! Thanks! Fantastic shooting. |
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Originally Posted By sgwlower:
Damn close to what I am running! Thanks! Fantastic shooting. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By sgwlower:
Originally Posted By MrNevada:
Originally Posted By sgwlower:
What's your ammo recipe sir? 42.5 Varget. 175 TMK. 2.850" OAL. I have to use the LaRue mag Damn close to what I am running! Thanks! Fantastic shooting. I have done absolutely zero load work up for this barrel. I would like to run them a little faster than what they're going now: 2540fps. I'm not sure how fast they should go, but 'faster' would be nice. |
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Wouldn't seating your bullets to 2.8 give you more velocity?
I have run mine up to 43 grains varget with smk 175's, with similar cases. 42-43 grains in LC cases seems to be the sweet spot for most of the LT 7.62 rifles. Not sure I would push it any harder than that. |
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Originally Posted By jaycoux:
Wouldn't seating your bullets to 2.8 give you more velocity? I have run mine up to 43 grains varget with smk 175's, with similar cases. 42-43 grains in LC cases seems to be the sweet spot for most of the LT 7.62 rifles. Not sure I would push it any harder than that. View Quote Seating them shorter might give more velocity, but it will DEFINITELY raise the pressure. |
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I've been having a really good time with this gun! Load data: 175gr Sierra TMK 42.5gr Varget Fed Brass (trim-to 2.805") CCI Primer (non-match) OAL 2.817" MV of 2560 fps Yesterday I went 2/2 at the 1100 yard plat (20" circle), and then went to the barricades to shoot some stuff. If you know about the PRS Barricade Standard stage, this may look familiar. If not, it's a 10" plate at 400 yards, 2 shots from each of 4 positions with a max time of 90 seconds. I easily met the time standard, rushed it even, so I'm pretty sure that I could have gotten more hits. I had the 100 yard zero on the scope, and used only hold-over for this. [youtube]youtu.be/jfWOldQjKhw[/youtube] |
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thanks for posting the vid. I've got a headspace-timing issue with technology sometimes... OK, most of the time.
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