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Do companies have patents on their mount designs? Could a company make a suppressor to hook up to another brand mount? I don't have one and haven't done any research on them so I have no idea.
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Originally Posted By LaRue_Tactical:
Maybe split the middle at $99 ... ? View Quote That's one of the main reasons I went with a Saker can. The mounts are $75 and you can change out the mounting module on the suppressor itself to adapt to other brand mounts. So for $150 I can get the direct thread module, or a AAC 51t, YHM Phantom, MIAD, Specwar etc. If I was already invested in a particular muzzle device or wanted to run another brand of can I can use their mount and get the module to adapt the Saker to that rifle. If you could come up with a way to adapt your suppressor to all the various existing mount points of the major competitors you could open up your market tremendously. |
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Originally Posted By bbuikema:
That's one of the main reasons I went with a Saker can. The mounts are $75 and you can change out the mounting module on the suppressor itself to adapt to other brand mounts. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By bbuikema:
Originally Posted By LaRue_Tactical:
Maybe split the middle at $99 ... ? That's one of the main reasons I went with a Saker can. The mounts are $75 and you can change out the mounting module on the suppressor itself to adapt to other brand mounts. What he said. |
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After fighting those Mahogany wasps under the tarp, I got a chain around that old lathe and drug it most of the way to the shop.
Hope to fight it the rest of the way into the building tomorrow and get a cord jerry-rigged over to it. |
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Originally Posted By LaRue_Tactical:
After fighting those Mahogany wasps under the tarp, I got a chain around that old lathe and drug it most of the way to the shop. Hope to fight it the rest of the way into the building tomorrow and get a cord jerry-rigged over to it. View Quote LaRue Flamethrower > Red Wasps. |
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Originally Posted By LaRue_Tactical:
After fighting those Mahogany wasps under the tarp, I got a chain around that old lathe and drug it most of the way to the shop. Hope to fight it the rest of the way into the building tomorrow and get a cord jerry-rigged over to it. View Quote Sounds like fun, can I come over and play with the lathe too? |
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I would say if you buy the suppressor, it should come with a mount. Additional mounts if they are brakes would be ok for $99 but a regular vortex style mount, no more than $70.
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I'm most likely buying a griffin SD because they work with a2 hiders because buying /switching mounts and flash hiders ain't easy for me
Having said that if larue makes a suppressor I'll most likely need to acquire one |
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My state just became free in July. I am now waiting on the ATF so I can bring 3 suppressors home. If LaRue made one and it's competitive in function and price I'd likely order one.
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There's been talk of a .300 blackout and talk of a suppressor, both of which I'm interested in. If I'm not mistaken, an integrally suppressed barrel only needs one tax stamp as long as it's 16 inch total. I'm just throwing that out there.
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Originally Posted By bbrraider:
There's been talk of a .300 blackout and talk of a suppressor, both of which I'm interested in. If I'm not mistaken, an integrally suppressed barrel only needs one tax stamp as long as it's 16 inch total. I'm just throwing that out there. View Quote That is true. Another perk to this is that the only registered NFA item (the silencer) does not require ATF approval to travel over state lines. SBRs, SBSs, MGs, & DDs all require that you get approval on an ATF Form 5320.20, or Form 20. By having an integrally suppressed barrel that is right at 16.1", you get a suppressed-SBR-length weapon without the extra stamp or Form 20 hassles down the road. |
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Originally Posted By jeep450:
Do companies have patents on their mount designs? Could a company make a suppressor to hook up to another brand mount? I don't have one and haven't done any research on them so I have no idea. View Quote There are companies that make compatible endcaps for various mounts. That is talked about in the Form 1 thread. Iirc, endcaps have been made to use Gemtech, Liberty, and YHM mounts. Not sure about copying a mount, but with the new "modular" type suppressors, and endcap can be switched out to fit the mount you already have. |
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Originally Posted By InfiniteGrim:
I mean $60 or so would be perfect.... I just cannot stand $150 mounts... AAC was selling their flash hider style 51T mounts for $60 for awhile. I think that would be pretty tempting. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By InfiniteGrim:
Originally Posted By LaRue_Tactical:
Originally Posted By ozzie839:
Mark if you came out with one using QD brakes and hiders that only cost say 40 bucks you would have a leg up on the competition Yeah, yeah, that's the ticket, if we could make something that would cost less than a case of cokes but withstand the kind of pressure you get when you shake up a million Mountain Dews. I mean $60 or so would be perfect.... I just cannot stand $150 mounts... AAC was selling their flash hider style 51T mounts for $60 for awhile. I think that would be pretty tempting. Unless it is a viable kick ass Flash Hider/Brake, which none of AAC's are. Surefire's prices are a little easier to bear when you consider how good the muzzle device is AND it is a mount. Seriously though, please, please make yours backwards compatible with Surefire's mounts. Then it is an absolute no brainer, unless you are talking .22, .338, or other screw on mounts. I've invested in 3+ mounts on all my ARs for Surefire, so I'm not likely to ever buy another type of can, again, unless it is screw on. I've learned my lesson with AAC's mounts, they are just not as good. |
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Originally Posted By dalmook:
Originally Posted By bbuikema:
Originally Posted By LaRue_Tactical:
Maybe split the middle at $99 ... ? That's one of the main reasons I went with a Saker can. The mounts are $75 and you can change out the mounting module on the suppressor itself to adapt to other brand mounts. What he said. Yep, I have two Sakers for that reason. $100 is too much for me because I know it can be done, and done well for 70-75. And that's with the dealer and SiCo making money. Larue doesn't have to worry about that. |
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Originally Posted By orpheus762x51:
That is true. Another perk to this is that the only registered NFA item (the silencer) does not require ATF approval to travel over state lines. SBRs, SBSs, MGs, & DDs all require that you get approval on an ATF Form 5320.20, or Form 20. By having an integrally suppressed barrel that is right at 16.1", you get a suppressed-SBR-length weapon without the extra stamp or Form 20 hassles down the road. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By orpheus762x51:
Originally Posted By bbrraider:
There's been talk of a .300 blackout and talk of a suppressor, both of which I'm interested in. If I'm not mistaken, an integrally suppressed barrel only needs one tax stamp as long as it's 16 inch total. I'm just throwing that out there. That is true. Another perk to this is that the only registered NFA item (the silencer) does not require ATF approval to travel over state lines. SBRs, SBSs, MGs, & DDs all require that you get approval on an ATF Form 5320.20, or Form 20. By having an integrally suppressed barrel that is right at 16.1", you get a suppressed-SBR-length weapon without the extra stamp or Form 20 hassles down the road. I'm at full mast now. |
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Originally Posted By ba10:
I'm at full mast now. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By ba10:
Originally Posted By orpheus762x51:
That is true. Another perk to this is that the only registered NFA item (the silencer) does not require ATF approval to travel over state lines. SBRs, SBSs, MGs, & DDs all require that you get approval on an ATF Form 5320.20, or Form 20. By having an integrally suppressed barrel that is right at 16.1", you get a suppressed-SBR-length weapon without the extra stamp or Form 20 hassles down the road. I'm at full mast now. The integrally suppressed 300blk would definitely be a hit. Mark, if you do make an integrally suppressed 300blk, you should call it the "InfiltratAR", due to the fact you could cross state lines without needing the Form 5320.20. |
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"Every argument against machine gun ownership is, at its very core, an assault on the virtue and integrity of the men that would use them." --Undefined
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Originally Posted By d16man: There are companies that make compatible endcaps for various mounts. That is talked about in the Form 1 thread. Iirc, endcaps have been made to use Gemtech, Liberty, and YHM mounts. Not sure about copying a mount, but with the new "modular" type suppressors, and endcap can be switched out to fit the mount you already have. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By d16man: Originally Posted By jeep450: Do companies have patents on their mount designs? Could a company make a suppressor to hook up to another brand mount? I don't have one and haven't done any research on them so I have no idea. There are companies that make compatible endcaps for various mounts. That is talked about in the Form 1 thread. Iirc, endcaps have been made to use Gemtech, Liberty, and YHM mounts. Not sure about copying a mount, but with the new "modular" type suppressors, and endcap can be switched out to fit the mount you already have. |
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Originally Posted By Defender3:
LaRue FlamethrowAR > Red Wasps. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Defender3:
Originally Posted By LaRue_Tactical:
After fighting those Mahogany wasps under the tarp, I got a chain around that old lathe and drug it most of the way to the shop. Hope to fight it the rest of the way into the building tomorrow and get a cord jerry-rigged over to it. LaRue FlamethrowAR > Red Wasps. fify |
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I have been asked to point out that I am LaRue Tactical's owner.
My work has been used by tens of thousands of US Military personnel, and tens of thousands of civilian shooters - ML |
Originally Posted By LaRue_Tactical:
After fighting those Mahogany wasps under the tarp, I got a chain around that old lathe and drug it most of the way to the shop. Hope to fight it the rest of the way into the building tomorrow and get a cord jerry-rigged over to it. View Quote Pics or..... |
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I expect to be purchasing another suppressor for .308 and another for .223. Would be nice to put LT suppressors on LT rifles.
Just saying. |
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I have been asked to point out that I am LaRue Tactical's owner.
My work has been used by tens of thousands of US Military personnel, and tens of thousands of civilian shooters - ML |
Originally Posted By LaRue_Tactical:
Standby ... could you hand me that pry bar, gotta inch this old lathe over just an inch more ... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By LaRue_Tactical:
Originally Posted By Micky80:
I expect to be purchasing another suppressor for .308 and another for .223. Would be nice to put LT suppressors on LT rifles. Just saying. Standby ... could you hand me that pry bar, gotta inch this old lathe over just an inch more ... Pics or it didn't happen |
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Originally Posted By LaRue_Tactical:
Standby ... could you hand me that pry bar, gotta inch this old lathe over just an inch more ... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By LaRue_Tactical:
Originally Posted By Micky80:
I expect to be purchasing another suppressor for .308 and another for .223. Would be nice to put LT suppressors on LT rifles. Just saying. Standby ... could you hand me that pry bar, gotta inch this old lathe over just an inch more ... pics |
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Originally Posted By mettee:
Originally Posted By LaRue_Tactical:
After fighting those Mahogany wasps under the tarp, I got a chain around that old lathe and drug it most of the way to the shop. Hope to fight it the rest of the way into the building tomorrow and get a cord jerry-rigged over to it. Pics or..... As you can see, I managed to get power to the old relic. |
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I have been asked to point out that I am LaRue Tactical's owner.
My work has been used by tens of thousands of US Military personnel, and tens of thousands of civilian shooters - ML |
Originally Posted By LaRue_Tactical:
As you can see, I managed to get power to the old relic. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By LaRue_Tactical:
Originally Posted By mettee:
Originally Posted By LaRue_Tactical:
After fighting those Mahogany wasps under the tarp, I got a chain around that old lathe and drug it most of the way to the shop. Hope to fight it the rest of the way into the building tomorrow and get a cord jerry-rigged over to it. Pics or..... As you can see, I managed to get power to the old relic. So Mark, I see you now have released pictures of the front end of the suppressor. Can we get a pic of the mounts? [ Any job openings in the engineering department? |
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Originally Posted By InfiniteGrim:
So Mark, I see you now have released pictures of the front end of the suppressor. Can we get a pic of the mounts? [ Any job openings in the engineering department? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By InfiniteGrim:
Originally Posted By LaRue_Tactical:
Originally Posted By mettee:
Originally Posted By LaRue_Tactical:
After fighting those Mahogany wasps under the tarp, I got a chain around that old lathe and drug it most of the way to the shop. Hope to fight it the rest of the way into the building tomorrow and get a cord jerry-rigged over to it. Pics or..... As you can see, I managed to get power to the old relic. So Mark, I see you now have released pictures of the front end of the suppressor. Can we get a pic of the mounts? [ Any job openings in the engineering department? Where might one find said pics? |
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Originally Posted By ba10:
Where might one find said pics? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By ba10:
Originally Posted By InfiniteGrim:
Originally Posted By LaRue_Tactical:
Originally Posted By mettee:
Originally Posted By LaRue_Tactical:
After fighting those Mahogany wasps under the tarp, I got a chain around that old lathe and drug it most of the way to the shop. Hope to fight it the rest of the way into the building tomorrow and get a cord jerry-rigged over to it. Pics or..... As you can see, I managed to get power to the old relic. So Mark, I see you now have released pictures of the front end of the suppressor. Can we get a pic of the mounts? [ Any job openings in the engineering department? Where might one find said pics? link |
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RIP WMD =(
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What was it the man said in the video ?
Oh that's right ... "We're going after every aspect of the technology ..." |
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I have been asked to point out that I am LaRue Tactical's owner.
My work has been used by tens of thousands of US Military personnel, and tens of thousands of civilian shooters - ML |
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Life is hard. If you act stupid it's even harder.
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Originally Posted By InfiniteGrim:
link http://www.laruetactical.com/media/calendar/archive/CalendarLatest/Jan_2011_Calendar.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By InfiniteGrim:
link http://www.laruetactical.com/media/calendar/archive/CalendarLatest/Jan_2011_Calendar.jpg Yeah, I'm in for one of those whole setups. That's gorgeous. Scratch me out for a 7.62 can/rifle setup. I JUST saw the 260 thread. Now if you'll excuse me, I gotta go grab my girlfriend to help me get rid of this erection. |
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I can't believe people are trying to demand how much LaRue should charge for his product. LaRue isn't a cheap company, but at the same time, I think for the quality of the products is priced very well. If you want a 40 dollar muzzle device, you're not going to get the same quality as say, a SureFire. It's a shame people want quality for cheap. Life doesn't work that wa .
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Originally Posted By Brando762:
I can't believe people are trying to demand how much LaRue should charge for his product. LaRue isn't a cheap company, but at the same time, I think for the quality of the products is priced very well. If you want a 40 dollar muzzle device, you're not going to get the same quality as say, a SureFire. It's a shame people want quality for cheap. Life doesn't work that wa . View Quote pump the brakes there guy no one DEMANDED mark sell his mounts for 40, we simply stated paying anything over than 100 for a mount is a big turn off mark is doing market research with this thread, he will settle on a price that he still makes a profit yet is appeasing to the consumers calm down francis |
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RIP WMD =(
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Originally Posted By InfiniteGrim:
So I guess this is the mount? http://www.larue.com/sites/default/files/ai0a1536_0.jpg View Quote Pretty wicked |
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Originally Posted By InfiniteGrim:
So I guess this is the mount? I'm wondering why the wrench flat area is so big! http://www.larue.com/sites/default/files/ai0a1536_0.jpg View Quote Function is key but I also like things to be pretty And that isn't |
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Originally Posted By BBOHACH:
Function is key but I also like things to be pretty And that isn't View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By BBOHACH:
Originally Posted By InfiniteGrim:
So I guess this is the mount? I'm wondering why the wrench flat area is so big! http://www.larue.com/sites/default/files/ai0a1536_0.jpg Function is key but I also like things to be pretty And that isn't Do you prefer it in pink? |
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Originally Posted By BBOHACH:
Function is key but I also like things to be pretty And that isn't View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By BBOHACH:
Originally Posted By InfiniteGrim:
So I guess this is the mount? I'm wondering why the wrench flat area is so big! http://www.larue.com/sites/default/files/ai0a1536_0.jpg Function is key but I also like things to be pretty And that isn't Yes, but it could be argued that it takes up more volume in the tube! Description states there are two tapers (before and after the threads) to seal the gas so it doesn't leak or touch the threads. |
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Originally Posted By InfiniteGrim:
Yes, but it could be argued that it takes up more volume in the tube! Description states there are two tapers (before and after the threads) to seal the gas so it doesn't leak or touch the threads. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By InfiniteGrim:
Originally Posted By BBOHACH:
Originally Posted By InfiniteGrim:
So I guess this is the mount? I'm wondering why the wrench flat area is so big! http://www.larue.com/sites/default/files/ai0a1536_0.jpg Function is key but I also like things to be pretty And that isn't Yes, but it could be argued that it takes up more volume in the tube! Description states there are two tapers (before and after the threads) to seal the gas so it doesn't leak or touch the threads. that's what I'm thinking. appears to be sort of a reflux design, going by the patent. |
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If you want a $40 mount for a suppressor, you will only be mounting oil filters as suppressors......
Which I believe is illegal..... Heck, I live in California, I would imagine that even breathing is illegal here!!!!! |
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Originally Posted By LaRue_Tactical:
What was it the man said in the video ? Oh that's right ... "We're going after every aspect of the technology ..." View Quote I entered this market as a consumer a month ago. Wish I would have waited now. Will these become available before or after the Siete? |
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Have a pinned and welded Surefire brake on my tobr, will I be out of luck one day when I finally make it out orf NJ?
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Originally Posted By animportant:
Have a pinned and welded Surefire brake on my tobr, will I be out of luck one day when I finally make it out orf NJ? View Quote A skilled gunsmith can remove it and not damage the barrel, or just get a new barrel and keep the one you have now for your surefire. |
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Honestly, now that I think about it... This muzzle device could be in violation of NJ laws. Maybe we would need to pin and weld another muzzle device onto the threads of this one! Lol
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So can I place my order yet?
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I literally sent in the form 4 on a new SureFire 762RC last week.
Now I get to go to my fiancee and say "Babe, remember when I said this was the last suppressor I was going to buy? Well what I meant was... this was the last SureFire I'm going to buy" Can't wait to see the TranQuilo in action. |
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