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Originally Posted By Mike_P:
Some new glass. http://www.mywrx.net/260b-1.JPG http://www.mywrx.net/260b-2.JPG View Quote Which glass? |
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Originally Posted By jeep450:
Originally Posted By Mike_P:
Some new glass. http://www.mywrx.net/260b-1.JPG http://www.mywrx.net/260b-2.JPG Which glass? Burris XTR 2 4-20x50 with SCR MOA reticle. It's not the best of the best, but it's what was in the budget for now. I was highly tempted to move my Vortex Razor HD over to the 260, but I feel like my 7.62 Tobr is set up perfectly with it and I don't want to mess with success. |
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Well good thing they are gonna offer just 260 barrels :)
I got a 14.5 in hopes of grabbing a long 308 barrel, but once the 260 idea came out that was the plan. I am glad to see it is working well, and your groups are silly good as usual. I want to know what you feel about the 18" barrel, would more be better? If I do this I don't want to have left anything on the table so to speak. I would hope for at least a 20" if not 22". Maybe that is off topic and I don't mean to derail this thread. |
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Originally Posted By mettee:
Well good thing they are gonna offer just 260 barrels :) I got a 14.5 in hopes of grabbing a long 308 barrel, but once the 260 idea came out that was the plan. I am glad to see it is working well, and your groups are silly good as usual. I want to know what you feel about the 18" barrel, would more be better? If I do this I don't want to have left anything on the table so to speak. I would hope for at least a 20" if not 22". Maybe that is off topic and I don't mean to derail this thread. View Quote You'll love it. Especially since you have the 308 shorty. The length, I had a little concern with. I'll be shooting it out to about 1600m in the next month or so to really see what it can do, but so far even coming from my 22" 6.5CM build, it has impressed me. Until I have it out at the longer distances though, I can't really speculate as to whether the 18" will result in a performance loss. Obviously we know it'll have a lower velocity, and what I've seen with 260 and 6.5 in the past is that it's ROUGHLY 25-30 fps per inch? Give or take depending on powder choice, bullet weight and other variations. I believe most people say the ideal 260 barrel length to take full advantage is something in the 22-24" area (It's been a while since I've done any research, so I could be wrong.). But the major consideration here is what the purpose of the rifle actually is. Being that it's a DI gas gun, your powder weights are going to have to be a bit lower if you don't want to tear up brass too, so there are lots of factors that need to be weighed. A bolt rifle where you don't have to worry about how the rifle extracts/ejects the brass can tolerate larger powder charges which in return means high velocity again. So far, if you check out my targets, they include my charge weights for developments sake too. You can see I'm on the very low end of the range for H4350, in fact lower than some manuals suggest. But any higher I believe we'll lose out on performance and start losing brass life. |
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Originally Posted By Mike_P:
You'll love it. Especially since you have the 308 shorty. The length, I had a little concern with. I'll be shooting it out to about 1600m in the next month or so to really see what it can do, but so far even coming from my 22" 6.5CM build, it has impressed me. Until I have it out at the longer distances though, I can't really speculate as to whether the 18" will result in a performance loss. Obviously we know it'll have a lower velocity, and what I've seen with 260 and 6.5 in the past is that it's ROUGHLY 25-30 fps per inch? Give or take depending on powder choice, bullet weight and other variations. I believe most people say the ideal 260 barrel length to take full advantage is something in the 22-24" area (It's been a while since I've done any research, so I could be wrong.). But the major consideration here is what the purpose of the rifle actually is. Being that it's a DI gas gun, your powder weights are going to have to be a bit lower if you don't want to tear up brass too, so there are lots of factors that need to be weighed. A bolt rifle where you don't have to worry about how the rifle extracts/ejects the brass can tolerate larger powder charges which in return means high velocity again. So far, if you check out my targets, they include my charge weights for developments sake too. You can see I'm on the very low end of the range for H4350, in fact lower than some manuals suggest. But any higher I believe we'll lose out on performance and start losing brass life. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Mike_P:
Originally Posted By mettee:
Well good thing they are gonna offer just 260 barrels :) I got a 14.5 in hopes of grabbing a long 308 barrel, but once the 260 idea came out that was the plan. I am glad to see it is working well, and your groups are silly good as usual. I want to know what you feel about the 18" barrel, would more be better? If I do this I don't want to have left anything on the table so to speak. I would hope for at least a 20" if not 22". Maybe that is off topic and I don't mean to derail this thread. You'll love it. Especially since you have the 308 shorty. The length, I had a little concern with. I'll be shooting it out to about 1600m in the next month or so to really see what it can do, but so far even coming from my 22" 6.5CM build, it has impressed me. Until I have it out at the longer distances though, I can't really speculate as to whether the 18" will result in a performance loss. Obviously we know it'll have a lower velocity, and what I've seen with 260 and 6.5 in the past is that it's ROUGHLY 25-30 fps per inch? Give or take depending on powder choice, bullet weight and other variations. I believe most people say the ideal 260 barrel length to take full advantage is something in the 22-24" area (It's been a while since I've done any research, so I could be wrong.). But the major consideration here is what the purpose of the rifle actually is. Being that it's a DI gas gun, your powder weights are going to have to be a bit lower if you don't want to tear up brass too, so there are lots of factors that need to be weighed. A bolt rifle where you don't have to worry about how the rifle extracts/ejects the brass can tolerate larger powder charges which in return means high velocity again. So far, if you check out my targets, they include my charge weights for developments sake too. You can see I'm on the very low end of the range for H4350, in fact lower than some manuals suggest. But any higher I believe we'll lose out on performance and start losing brass life. Interesting, I suppose seeing what happens at range will really tell us the most. I did not see any MV posted or did I miss it? And maybe I am worried about things that wont matter in the end. See, I would probably push the brass a little bit here, sacrifice some life for better speed(if it stays accurate). In this configuration it wont see as many rounds as it does in 308, and I will use the 308 brass for 260 after its fired. Of course like you I will have to have time to play with it Id really like to see some 18" MV numbers.... |
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I don't have a problem pushing some brass for the sake of testing.
I'll have to see if I can locate a chrono. Had a "friend" shoot mine and laugh. Didn't even offer to replace it. |
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Please come out before California bans all Semi Automatic Rifles with a detachable magazine by years end!
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Originally Posted By sgwlower:
Dang doesn't sound too friend like to me. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By sgwlower:
Originally Posted By Mike_P:
I don't have a problem pushing some brass for the sake of testing. I'll have to see if I can locate a chrono. Had a "friend" shoot mine and laugh. Didn't even offer to replace it. Dang doesn't sound too friend like to me. Originally Posted By mettee:
Originally Posted By Mike_P:
I don't have a problem pushing some brass for the sake of testing. I'll have to see if I can locate a chrono. Had a "friend" shoot mine and laugh. Didn't even offer to replace it. Oh nice... LoL, I know, right? And his wife blew 2 holes in my Tactical Tailor range bag shooting SBRs on top of it on his watch. I still use it with the 2 gaping holes and I have other priorities for funds. One of these days I'll pick up a Larue. Wish the Multicam was still around! |
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I don't know where the JBLM area of Washington is but I may be able to make an excuse to go there...
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Originally Posted By Mike_P:
LoL, I know, right? And his wife blew 2 holes in my Tactical Tailor range bag shooting SBRs on top of it on his watch. I still use it with the 2 gaping holes and I have other priorities for funds. One of these days I'll pick up a Larue. Wish the Multicam was still around! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Mike_P:
Originally Posted By sgwlower:
Originally Posted By Mike_P:
I don't have a problem pushing some brass for the sake of testing. I'll have to see if I can locate a chrono. Had a "friend" shoot mine and laugh. Didn't even offer to replace it. Dang doesn't sound too friend like to me. Originally Posted By mettee:
Originally Posted By Mike_P:
I don't have a problem pushing some brass for the sake of testing. I'll have to see if I can locate a chrono. Had a "friend" shoot mine and laugh. Didn't even offer to replace it. Oh nice... LoL, I know, right? And his wife blew 2 holes in my Tactical Tailor range bag shooting SBRs on top of it on his watch. I still use it with the 2 gaping holes and I have other priorities for funds. One of these days I'll pick up a Larue. Wish the Multicam was still around! I say find his range bag and make some holes in it |
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Originally Posted By Mike_P:
LoL, I know, right? And his wife blew 2 holes in my Tactical Tailor range bag shooting SBRs on top of it on his watch. I still use it with the 2 gaping holes and I have other priorities for funds. One of these days I'll pick up a Larue. Wish the Multicam was still around! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Mike_P:
Originally Posted By sgwlower:
Originally Posted By Mike_P:
I don't have a problem pushing some brass for the sake of testing. I'll have to see if I can locate a chrono. Had a "friend" shoot mine and laugh. Didn't even offer to replace it. Dang doesn't sound too friend like to me. Originally Posted By mettee:
Originally Posted By Mike_P:
I don't have a problem pushing some brass for the sake of testing. I'll have to see if I can locate a chrono. Had a "friend" shoot mine and laugh. Didn't even offer to replace it. Oh nice... LoL, I know, right? And his wife blew 2 holes in my Tactical Tailor range bag shooting SBRs on top of it on his watch. I still use it with the 2 gaping holes and I have other priorities for funds. One of these days I'll pick up a Larue. Wish the Multicam was still around! The Larue Bag is incredibly nice. |
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Originally Posted By Mike_P:
He PCS'd to Bragg, so I have a feeling he's getting beaten down pretty well right now as karma. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Mike_P:
Originally Posted By mettee:
I say find his range bag and make some holes in it He PCS'd to Bragg, so I have a feeling he's getting beaten down pretty well right now as karma. That right there is certainty |
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Originally Posted By Mike_P:
Burris XTR 2 4-20x50 with SCR MOA reticle. It's not the best of the best, but it's what was in the budget for now. I was highly tempted to move my Vortex Razor HD over to the 260, but I feel like my 7.62 Tobr is set up perfectly with it and I don't want to mess with success. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Mike_P:
Originally Posted By jeep450:
Originally Posted By Mike_P:
Some new glass. http://www.mywrx.net/260b-1.JPG http://www.mywrx.net/260b-2.JPG Which glass? Burris XTR 2 4-20x50 with SCR MOA reticle. It's not the best of the best, but it's what was in the budget for now. I was highly tempted to move my Vortex Razor HD over to the 260, but I feel like my 7.62 Tobr is set up perfectly with it and I don't want to mess with success. I'm rather jealous of your T&E selection |
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Originally Posted By BBOHACH:
I'm rather jealous of your T&E selection View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By BBOHACH:
Originally Posted By Mike_P:
Originally Posted By jeep450:
Originally Posted By Mike_P:
Some new glass. http://www.mywrx.net/260b-1.JPG http://www.mywrx.net/260b-2.JPG Which glass? Burris XTR 2 4-20x50 with SCR MOA reticle. It's not the best of the best, but it's what was in the budget for now. I was highly tempted to move my Vortex Razor HD over to the 260, but I feel like my 7.62 Tobr is set up perfectly with it and I don't want to mess with success. I'm rather jealous of your T&E selection Imagine the sheer amount of targets he has thrown away in accomplishing his places in the MOA top ten. And all the ammo as well. And he is basically repping for LT |
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I don't throw my targets away unless they are for zeroing or for testing purposes and are horrible. You should see my garage and stack. I have targets going back years.
What's worse is how often I have to buy the dang birchwood casey targets when I could just be printing them out or using the stacks of Larue targets I have! I just really like the shoot'n'see and the fact that there's 5 per target. Makes things so easy. Maybe one day I'll be lucky enough to be employed by LT. But for now I'm just a fanboy who was lucky enough to get picked for this fine project. |
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Originally Posted By BBOHACH:
I'm rather jealous of your T&E selection View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By BBOHACH:
Originally Posted By Mike_P:
Originally Posted By jeep450:
Originally Posted By Mike_P:
Some new glass. http://www.mywrx.net/260b-1.JPG http://www.mywrx.net/260b-2.JPG Which glass? Burris XTR 2 4-20x50 with SCR MOA reticle. It's not the best of the best, but it's what was in the budget for now. I was highly tempted to move my Vortex Razor HD over to the 260, but I feel like my 7.62 Tobr is set up perfectly with it and I don't want to mess with success. I'm rather jealous of your T&E selection The optic seems to fit the rifle very well. Can't wait to shoot it again tomorrow, just need to spend the night reloading! I'm very fortunate and grateful that Mark picked me for this. Hopefully one day I can appropriately show him my thanks. |
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Originally Posted By Mike_P:
I don't throw my targets away unless they are for zeroing or for testing purposes and are horrible. You should see my garage and stack. I have targets going back years. What's worse is how often I have to buy the dang birchwood casey targets when I could just be printing them out or using the stacks of Larue targets I have! I just really like the shoot'n'see and the fact that there's 5 per target. Makes things so easy. Maybe one day I'll be lucky enough to be employed by LT. But for now I'm just a fanboy who was lucky enough to get picked for this fine project. View Quote Well you know what I mean, basically you have done a ton of work for the things you accomplished and in the meantime you've shown what the hardware can do. |
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Originally Posted By Mike_P:
The optic seems to fit the rifle very well. Can't wait to shoot it again tomorrow, just need to spend the night reloading! I'm very fortunate and grateful that Mark picked me for this. Hopefully one day I can appropriately show him my thanks. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Mike_P:
Originally Posted By BBOHACH:
Originally Posted By Mike_P:
Originally Posted By jeep450:
Originally Posted By Mike_P:
Some new glass. http://www.mywrx.net/260b-1.JPG http://www.mywrx.net/260b-2.JPG Which glass? Burris XTR 2 4-20x50 with SCR MOA reticle. It's not the best of the best, but it's what was in the budget for now. I was highly tempted to move my Vortex Razor HD over to the 260, but I feel like my 7.62 Tobr is set up perfectly with it and I don't want to mess with success. I'm rather jealous of your T&E selection The optic seems to fit the rifle very well. Can't wait to shoot it again tomorrow, just need to spend the night reloading! I'm very fortunate and grateful that Mark picked me for this. Hopefully one day I can appropriately show him my thanks. I hear he likes scotch |
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Originally Posted By mettee:
Well you know what I mean, basically you have done a ton of work for the things you accomplished and in the meantime you've shown what the hardware can do. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By mettee:
Originally Posted By Mike_P:
I don't throw my targets away unless they are for zeroing or for testing purposes and are horrible. You should see my garage and stack. I have targets going back years. What's worse is how often I have to buy the dang birchwood casey targets when I could just be printing them out or using the stacks of Larue targets I have! I just really like the shoot'n'see and the fact that there's 5 per target. Makes things so easy. Maybe one day I'll be lucky enough to be employed by LT. But for now I'm just a fanboy who was lucky enough to get picked for this fine project. Well you know what I mean, basically you have done a ton of work for the things you accomplished and in the meantime you've shown what the hardware can do. So true. |
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Originally Posted By phlegm:
https://www.facebook.com/165188826838328/photos/pcb.1183958794961321/1183957544961446/?type=3&theater View Quote Don't know them but they are local to me. |
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Originally Posted By phlegm:
https://www.facebook.com/165188826838328/photos/pcb.1183958794961321/1183957544961446/?type=3&theater View Quote All I've seen is 18" options. Hopefully that isn't the only thing they've tested, I have an otb suppressor in jail that won't work with the gas block that close to the muzzle. |
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Has it been two weeks yet? When will they be available for normal people?
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View Quote The hide has been skinned ... In the old days a half dozen would have made a hate run at that thread. Their scalps hang from my lodgepole. |
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My work has been used by tens of thousands of US Military personnel, and tens of thousands of civilian shooters - ML |
Originally Posted By LaRue_Tactical:
The hide has been skinned ... In the old days a half dozen would have made a hate run at that thread. Their scalps hang from my lodgepole. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By LaRue_Tactical:
The hide has been skinned ... In the old days a half dozen would have made a hate run at that thread. Their scalps hang from my lodgepole. Mark does someone in Memphis,TN area have one? Looks like this person is saying this is their gun. |
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Originally Posted By jeep450:
Mark does someone in Memphis,TN area have one? Looks like this person is saying this is their gun. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By jeep450:
Originally Posted By LaRue_Tactical:
The hide has been skinned ... In the old days a half dozen would have made a hate run at that thread. Their scalps hang from my lodgepole. Mark does someone in Memphis,TN area have one? Looks like this person is saying this is their gun. They are scattered here and there ... interestingly, a team runnin' a pair of 'em won 1st place at a match last weekend. Ammo issue is about untangled. ML |
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Can't wait to find out what's going to be available.
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Mark,any movement on the Homefront? Are you going to make me buy somebody else's barrel for my tobr. . I don't want to do it but my annual gravel pit shoot is coming up mid August and I need to be sporting either your 260 or a 6.5 frankinbarrel on the tobr.
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I'll be running some of that FGMM through the rifle tomorrow.
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Originally Posted By Defender3:
Okay, it's tomorrow, where's the range report? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Defender3:
Originally Posted By Mike_P:
I'll be running some of that FGMM through the rifle tomorrow. Okay, it's tomorrow, where's the range report? Soon! |
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This has me seriously re-thinking my next big buy from LT. Only if they offer a complete 260 Rem T'Obr. If only a t'obr cartridge/bbl then I will stay with my original plan. A 7.62 14.5 t'obr, with a replacement cart/bbl. Lets see a show of hands of those who prefer a complete 260 t'obr. Of course a repl cart/bbl for the folks who have a 7.62 tobr already and want to add a 260 to the stable. I do not have a t'obr in 7.62 only in 5.56. So the decision is easy for me. Of course I could be completely off and LT already has plans to do this. I have not read anything that confirms this so.
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Wake me up if Mark ever decides to put these out. In the meantime I'll be at the range with the 260 bolt gun....
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Originally Posted By Randall007:
This has me seriously re-thinking my next big buy from LT. Only if they offer a complete 260 Rem T'Obr. If only a t'obr cartridge/bbl then I will stay with my original plan. A 7.62 14.5 t'obr, with a replacement cart/bbl. Lets see a show of hands of those who prefer a complete 260 t'obr. Of course a repl cart/bbl for the folks who have a 7.62 tobr already and want to add a 260 to the stable. I do not have a t'obr in 7.62 only in 5.56. So the decision is easy for me. Of course I could be completely off and LT already has plans to do this. I have not read anything that confirms this so. View Quote This is arfcom, I want both! |
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Originally Posted By Mike_P:
Originally Posted By Defender3:
Originally Posted By Mike_P:
I'll be running some of that FGMM through the rifle tomorrow. Okay, it's tomorrow, where's the range report? Soon! MIKE P---we want a range report!! |
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any updates on availability?
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This maybe my first big $$ gun.... need to get this house closed on....
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Now for the infamous: "You missed the bullseye!" comment
Nice grouping except for the flyer part. Is the 142gr AE in .260 two bucks a box cheaper than the FGMM like it is for 168gr M1A rounds in .308???? |
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Originally Posted By LUVONEGOD:
Now for the infamous: "You missed the bullseye!" comment Nice grouping except for the flyer part. Is the 142gr AE in .260 two bucks a box cheaper than the FGMM like it is for 168gr M1A rounds in .308???? View Quote Heh, yeah I'm definitely not making adjustments when it's not my primary round. Though it wouldn't have been difficult, I was alternating my typical round with the FGMM trying to get a better feel for the higher pressure round. As for the price. The FGMM is brand new. The only other 260 rounds I've seen out of Federal are fusion and a few hunting options. So unfortunately no way to save money just yet. |
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Originally Posted By sgwlower:
This is arfcom, I want both! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By sgwlower:
Originally Posted By Randall007:
This has me seriously re-thinking my next big buy from LT. Only if they offer a complete 260 Rem T'Obr. If only a t'obr cartridge/bbl then I will stay with my original plan. A 7.62 14.5 t'obr, with a replacement cart/bbl. Lets see a show of hands of those who prefer a complete 260 t'obr. Of course a repl cart/bbl for the folks who have a 7.62 tobr already and want to add a 260 to the stable. I do not have a t'obr in 7.62 only in 5.56. So the decision is easy for me. Of course I could be completely off and LT already has plans to do this. I have not read anything that confirms this so. This is arfcom, I want both! You are right. Why was I trying to over think such a thing. I guess it was all the excitement reading Mike P reports. I do want both. There I said it. I am better now. |
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Originally Posted By Mike_P:
Heh, yeah I'm definitely not making adjustments when it's not my primary round. Though it wouldn't have been difficult, I was alternating my typical round with the FGMM trying to get a better feel for the higher pressure round. As for the price. The FGMM is brand new. The only other 260 rounds I've seen out of Federal are fusion and a few hunting options. So unfortunately no way to save money just yet. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Mike_P:
Originally Posted By LUVONEGOD:
Now for the infamous: "You missed the bullseye!" comment Nice grouping except for the flyer part. Is the 142gr AE in .260 two bucks a box cheaper than the FGMM like it is for 168gr M1A rounds in .308???? Heh, yeah I'm definitely not making adjustments when it's not my primary round. Though it wouldn't have been difficult, I was alternating my typical round with the FGMM trying to get a better feel for the higher pressure round. As for the price. The FGMM is brand new. The only other 260 rounds I've seen out of Federal are fusion and a few hunting options. So unfortunately no way to save money just yet. Mike Are you planning on trying the prime 260 130gr in that barrel? |
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