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I have been asked to point out that I am LaRue Tactical's owner.
My work has been used by tens of thousands of US Military personnel, and tens of thousands of civilian shooters - ML |
My LaRue MBT arrived via the USPS on Thursday, and I quickly installed it in a new lower I was building for my 6.8SPC. Noticed the included springs seemed much stiffer than the yellow JP springs I run in some of my other AR trigger sets. I was suprised the trigger pull was as light as it was with them.... Thinking maybe I should try a spare set of them with this trigger.....
At this point, I still had not oiled it or greased it yet. Thus, as expected, it was not as smooth as the well oiled Wilson Single stage TTU in the lower being replaced. I then lubed both triggers with CLP and added lubriplate 130A to the trigger mating surfaces of both triggers (had never done this to the Wilson before) because I noticed it was recommended somewhere in this thread that a grease, not oil, should be applied to those surfaces. Both triggers were now smooth as glass. Once this work was completed, I tested the triggers against each other. This is not a fair comparison as one is a two stage, the other a single. The Wilson has less take up and reset, but has also proven to be very unreliable in the past if not sloppy wet with lube, thus requiring a finger to reset the trigger at times, perhaps the lubriplate 130A will help with that. The LaRue MBT is a very nice trigger, the takeup after the single stage is just a sharp crisp break, with a short reset, but it is a tad longer reset than the Wilson. I should have compared it to the Black Gold, but again it would be comparing apples to oranges as the Black Gold is a single stage as well, or at least I don't feel a first stage with it...... The LaRue MBT will probably be better suited for me for bench rest shooting than the other two aforementioned triggers, but that would be because my M-1A, which I have setup for long range shooting, is also a two stage trigger (National Match). That said, I would prefer my Black Gold for tactical situations. The Wilson, if it becomes dependable due to the lubriplate 130A, would also be a great tactical trigger... Time will tell.......... |
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Originally Posted By LUVONEGOD:
My LaRue MBT arrived via the USPS on Thursday, and I quickly installed it in a new lower I was building for my 6.8SPC. Noticed the included springs seemed much stiffer than the yellow JP springs I run in some of my other AR trigger sets. I was suprised the trigger pull was as light as it was with them.... Thinking maybe I should try a spare set of them with this trigger..... At this point, I still had not oiled it or greased it yet. Thus, as expected, it was not as smooth as the well oiled Wilson Single stage TTU in the lower being replaced. I then lubed both triggers with CLP and added lubriplate 130A to the trigger mating surfaces of both triggers (had never done this to the Wilson before) because I noticed it was recommended somewhere in this thread that a grease, not oil, should be applied to those surfaces. Both triggers were now smooth as glass. Once this work was completed, I tested the triggers against each other. This is not a fair comparison as one is a two stage, the other a single. The Wilson has less take up and reset, but has also proven to be very unreliable in the past if not sloppy wet with lube, thus requiring a finger to reset the trigger at times, perhaps the lubriplate 130A will help with that. The LaRue MBT is a very nice trigger, the takeup after the single stage is just a sharp crisp break, with a short reset, but it is a tad longer reset than the Wilson. I should have compared it to the Black Gold, but again it would be comparing apples to oranges as the Black Gold is a single stage as well, or at least I don't feel a first stage with it...... The LaRue MBT will probably be better suited for me for bench rest shooting than the other two aforementioned triggers, but that would be because my M-1A, which I have setup for long range shooting, is also a two stage trigger (National Match). That said, I would prefer my Black Gold for tactical situations. The Wilson, if it becomes dependable due to the lubriplate 130A, would also be a great tactical trigger... Time will tell.......... View Quote I have a Wilson single-stage TTU as well, but haven't used it yet. I initially got it because I thought I wanted a single-stage. But I discovered I actually prefer a two-stage. The Wilson TTU-M2 (two-stage) has been flawless for me. I just use a drop of Slip2000 EWL on all the various mating surfaces. Haven't tried a grease. Maybe that would help with the MBT-2S though. However the pull feels a lot lighter on my Wilson. But won't know for sure until I can borrow a gauge. |
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The only thing that I can say about this trigger is that "It makes me want to shoot!" First two-stage trigger that I've owned and I'm driving the wife nuts.
What are you going to do today? Shoot Are you working Saturday? Going shooting When are we going to spend time together? When you come to the range with me Seriously, the simple addition of this trigger in my new Predatar has made me a much better shooter and made the shooting experience much more enjoyable. Thanks Mark for a great addition to the Larue stable in my safe. Now to get one for the Noveske, then the DPMS, then the LWRC, then I'll have to build another. |
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All you have to do is show me a gun and it makes me want to shoot!!!! I was hoping to make it to the range this past weekend, but it just didn't happen. I am looking forward to testing the MBT in real life, not just dry firing. It takes actual trigger time to realize whether or not you are going to prefer one trigger over another. I probably shouldn't have compared it to another single stage trigger, but the only two stage trigger I have is not an AR trigger. I will end with this thought, whether or not it becomes my favorite, the MBT is an excellent trigger and well worth the money!!!!
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I have a Wilson single-stage TTU as well, but haven't used it yet. I initially got it because I thought I wanted a single-stage. But I discovered I actually prefer a two-stage. The Wilson TTU-M2 (two-stage) has been flawless for me. I just use a drop of Slip2000 EWL on all the various mating surfaces. Haven't tried a grease. Maybe that would help with the MBT-2S though. However the pull feels a lot lighter on my Wilson. But won't know for sure until I can borrow a gauge. View Quote It made a noticeable difference in the trigger pull on both triggers, more so on the MBT because realistically, it had no lubrication on it at all. The Wilson had oil on it already so while I noticed it was smoother and lighter, there wasn't as much difference....... |
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Got my trigger today - ordered last weekend.
My LaRue 7.62 OBR 20" from August 2014 now has an MBT-2S. I did a couple dry fires with the Geissele that was 'stock' - a very nice trigger, 'Out Shot the Shootist' with it. Pulled it and installed the MBT. Greased the surfaces indicated with TW-25B out of the syringe. Instructions were adequate for someone who has never built or even changed an internal part on an AR. I couldn't get the selector in with both parts in - so I pulled the hammer back out and put the selector in and put the hammer back in. You do need a long enough allen wrench to get the grip off and make sure you have the selector in fire when putting the hammer in. Also, don't drop/loose/forget the detent & spring. My fingers are too big to hold small parts easily but I got it done. Some cussing and soreness of fingers was noted. Function test is correct - just need to get to the range. 'Feel' of the new trigger is about the same as stock - but break appears cleaner/crisper after a couple go's getting the the grease worked in I imagine. Can't wait to get to the range - another couple weeks should get the snow down enough (still have 2+ feet in most places). Round count 111 total - 0 on the new trigger *********ON EDIT*********** I just installed the stock trigger into my S&W M&P 15 ORC. I did not have to pull the grip or selector, just snuck it out and in. Function test is correct. You may not have to pull the grip or selector on your application either - try it out if you want. Very simple this way. |
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Sometimes you can get away with that, but not always.... Depends on the trigger.... Either way, it isn't too hard. One thing I have done to ease the swaps is to change out all my grip screws from flat blade to Allen head. It's a whole lot easier to get that screw back in the hole!!!!!!
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Originally Posted By GM-GUY:
Got my trigger today - ordered last weekend. My LaRue 7.62 OBR 20" from August 2014 now has an MBT-2S. I did a couple dry fires with the Geissele that was 'stock' - a very nice trigger, 'Out Shot the Shootist' with it. Pulled it and installed the MBT. Greased the surfaces indicated with TW-25B out of the syringe. Instructions were adequate for someone who has never built or even changed an internal part on an AR. I couldn't get the selector in with both parts in - so I pulled the hammer back out and put the selector in and put the hammer back in. You do need a long enough allen wrench to get the grip off and make sure you have the selector in fire when putting the hammer in. Also, don't drop/loose/forget the detent & spring. My fingers are too big to hold small parts easily but I got it done. Some cussing and soreness of fingers was noted. Function test is correct - just need to get to the range. 'Feel' of the new trigger is about the same as stock - but break appears cleaner/crisper after a couple go's getting the the grease worked in I imagine. Can't wait to get to the range - another couple weeks should get the snow down enough (still have 2+ feet in most places). Round count 111 total - 0 on the new trigger *********ON EDIT*********** I just installed the stock trigger into my S&W M&P 15 ORC. I did not have to pull the grip or selector, just snuck it out and in. Function test is correct. You may not have to pull the grip or selector on your application either - try it out if you want. Very simple this way. View Quote Snow report ? |
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I have been asked to point out that I am LaRue Tactical's owner.
My work has been used by tens of thousands of US Military personnel, and tens of thousands of civilian shooters - ML |
This Saturday I'll be able to test out the MBT in the Tobr and see how it goes.
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I have been asked to point out that I am LaRue Tactical's owner.
My work has been used by tens of thousands of US Military personnel, and tens of thousands of civilian shooters - ML |
I ordered two of your MBT-2S triggers through your Father's Day special, hoping to get them in my rifles and get back with some input and a review.
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Between 300 and 400 of the 1,300 went out today. |
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I have been asked to point out that I am LaRue Tactical's owner.
My work has been used by tens of thousands of US Military personnel, and tens of thousands of civilian shooters - ML |
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i was able to buy number 97/100 from a contest winner, i will be posting a full review shortly
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Originally Posted By Defender3:
Besides the consistency, I think you'll like the shape of the trigger bow. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Defender3:
Originally Posted By ozzie839:
i was able to buy number 97/100 from a contest winner, i will be posting a full review shortly Besides the consistency, I think you'll like the shape of the trigger bow. oh i love it, it is sitting waiting for me to put my SPR together in a couple weeks, im thinking i will break the rifle in on fathers day |
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I am going to have to try and get a first generation non-rotating pin kit off without scratching the Cerakote... I just know those stupid little bars are going to break before a screw comes loose! Oh well, it just gives me something to think about until the MBT shows up on Wednesday! (Next time, Gen 2, much better!!!)
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Just received the package last night, plugged them in my two main rifles. These triggers are awesome! Feel as distinct and clear as my bolt trigger. UPS must have pitched the package around a good bit, the trigger packages were open and parts were strung throughout the box, FYI, might look at taping them shut.
Either way, I'm very pleased and will get them to the range this weekend and report. Thanks Again! |
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Originally Posted By mking3b:
Just received the package last night, plugged them in my two main rifles. These triggers are awesome! Feel as distinct and clear as my bolt trigger. UPS must have pitched the package around a good bit, the trigger packages were open and parts were strung throughout the box, FYI, might look at taping them shut. Either way, I'm very pleased and will get them to the range this weekend and report. Thanks Again! View Quote Dang, wonder how many G's are the boxes being subjected to ? |
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I have been asked to point out that I am LaRue Tactical's owner.
My work has been used by tens of thousands of US Military personnel, and tens of thousands of civilian shooters - ML |
I thought they were held shut with a rubber band? Granted it's around the container, maybe over the top might work a little better?
Either way in the ones I received I haven't had any issues. |
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"Just WOW !!
I had the faith considering my past results with Larue products so I took advantage of the Fathers Day Special. So glad I did. Can't add a thing that others have not said better than I ever could. Installed it in a "duty carbine" ,as it meets the required weight specs Just need three more like it !!!! Putting together the funds now! Thanks Mark !!!!!" "All I can say is WOW! I have two Geissele SSA triggers and one SSA-E trigger installed in other rifles, and while they are super nice, the MBT is now my all time favorite. I love the slightly wider trigger, and the break is pure perfection; mine breaks at 4.25 lbs. total. I purchased the MBT during a recent 1/2 price promotional, and my deepest regret is ordering two of them..." "Very please with this trigger. It replaced my SSA I had in my sbr. The first stage is very smooth. The second stage break is crisp. Reset is just as smooth as stage 1. I also please with the bow design. Machine work flawless and built to last." |
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I have been asked to point out that I am LaRue Tactical's owner.
My work has been used by tens of thousands of US Military personnel, and tens of thousands of civilian shooters - ML |
IDK why but the number 39 is very special to me...
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Originally Posted By LaRue_Tactical:
Dang, wonder how many G's are the boxes being subjected to ? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By LaRue_Tactical:
Originally Posted By mking3b:
Just received the package last night, plugged them in my two main rifles. These triggers are awesome! Feel as distinct and clear as my bolt trigger. UPS must have pitched the package around a good bit, the trigger packages were open and parts were strung throughout the box, FYI, might look at taping them shut. Either way, I'm very pleased and will get them to the range this weekend and report. Thanks Again! Dang, wonder how many G's are the boxes being subjected to ? Just got one today the same way. The tin was closed but the trigger was loose inside the box (outside of the tin and foam). I put it back in and put the rubber band across the top of the tin for safe storage during the next leg of this particular triggers journey. |
LaRuemiNaughty
Proud member of Team Ranstad..."The Fantastic Bastards" Society of the Crown® Tennessee Squire |
Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds
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Originally Posted By LaRue_Tactical:
Dang, wonder how many G's are the boxes being subjected to ? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By LaRue_Tactical:
Originally Posted By mking3b:
Just received the package last night, plugged them in my two main rifles. These triggers are awesome! Feel as distinct and clear as my bolt trigger. UPS must have pitched the package around a good bit, the trigger packages were open and parts were strung throughout the box, FYI, might look at taping them shut. Either way, I'm very pleased and will get them to the range this weekend and report. Thanks Again! Dang, wonder how many G's are the boxes being subjected to ? Yep, the one I received had come out of the foam. Lid was still in place! |
They call me "Barnyard"
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Originally Posted By LaRue_Tactical: Dang, wonder how many G's are the boxes being subjected to ? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By LaRue_Tactical: Originally Posted By mking3b: Just received the package last night, plugged them in my two main rifles. These triggers are awesome! Feel as distinct and clear as my bolt trigger. UPS must have pitched the package around a good bit, the trigger packages were open and parts were strung throughout the box, FYI, might look at taping them shut. Either way, I'm very pleased and will get them to the range this weekend and report. Thanks Again! Dang, wonder how many G's are the boxes being subjected to ? Oh if packages could talk...
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"One is a Colt, the other is not. Colt has always been known for quality where it counts, not for its level of fit and finish. " - Stickman
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Whats the ETA on the MBT's going to the "MOA All Day Long Challenge" shooters? Not being impatient, just curious.
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John 8:12 "I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life."
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I have been asked to point out that I am LaRue Tactical's owner.
My work has been used by tens of thousands of US Military personnel, and tens of thousands of civilian shooters - ML |
IDK why but the number 39 is very special to me...
TX, USA
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Originally Posted By DstryrOfWrlds:
Yep, the one I received had come out of the foam. Lid was still in place! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By DstryrOfWrlds:
Originally Posted By LaRue_Tactical:
Originally Posted By mking3b:
Just received the package last night, plugged them in my two main rifles. These triggers are awesome! Feel as distinct and clear as my bolt trigger. UPS must have pitched the package around a good bit, the trigger packages were open and parts were strung throughout the box, FYI, might look at taping them shut. Either way, I'm very pleased and will get them to the range this weekend and report. Thanks Again! Dang, wonder how many G's are the boxes being subjected to ? Yep, the one I received had come out of the foam. Lid was still in place! And that's how I received it. |
LaRuemiNaughty
Proud member of Team Ranstad..."The Fantastic Bastards" Society of the Crown® Tennessee Squire |
Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds
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Originally Posted By ah64pilot:
And that's how I received it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By ah64pilot:
Originally Posted By DstryrOfWrlds:
Originally Posted By LaRue_Tactical:
Originally Posted By mking3b:
Just received the package last night, plugged them in my two main rifles. These triggers are awesome! Feel as distinct and clear as my bolt trigger. UPS must have pitched the package around a good bit, the trigger packages were open and parts were strung throughout the box, FYI, might look at taping them shut. Either way, I'm very pleased and will get them to the range this weekend and report. Thanks Again! Dang, wonder how many G's are the boxes being subjected to ? Yep, the one I received had come out of the foam. Lid was still in place! And that's how I received it. Well, after traveling from Dallas to Houston via Florida, I can understand why! Glad it finally made it! |
They call me "Barnyard"
Team Ranstad - The Fantastic Bastards Tennessee Squire NRA TSRA |
IDK why but the number 39 is very special to me...
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Originally Posted By DstryrOfWrlds:
Well, after traveling from Dallas to Houston via Florida, I can understand why! Glad it finally made it! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By DstryrOfWrlds:
Originally Posted By ah64pilot:
Originally Posted By DstryrOfWrlds:
Originally Posted By LaRue_Tactical:
Originally Posted By mking3b:
Just received the package last night, plugged them in my two main rifles. These triggers are awesome! Feel as distinct and clear as my bolt trigger. UPS must have pitched the package around a good bit, the trigger packages were open and parts were strung throughout the box, FYI, might look at taping them shut. Either way, I'm very pleased and will get them to the range this weekend and report. Thanks Again! Dang, wonder how many G's are the boxes being subjected to ? Yep, the one I received had come out of the foam. Lid was still in place! And that's how I received it. Well, after traveling from Dallas to Houston via Florida, I can understand why! Glad it finally made it! Me too! Here's hoping it finds a direct flight to Montana! Lol! |
LaRuemiNaughty
Proud member of Team Ranstad..."The Fantastic Bastards" Society of the Crown® Tennessee Squire |
Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds
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Originally Posted By ah64pilot:
Me too! Here's hoping it finds a direct flight to Montana! Lol! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By ah64pilot:
Originally Posted By DstryrOfWrlds:
Originally Posted By ah64pilot:
snip And that's how I received it. Well, after traveling from Dallas to Houston via Florida, I can understand why! Glad it finally made it! Me too! Here's hoping it finds a direct flight to Montana! Lol! That is going to be a well traveled MBT. It will most likely be routed through Alaska! |
They call me "Barnyard"
Team Ranstad - The Fantastic Bastards Tennessee Squire NRA TSRA |
IDK why but the number 39 is very special to me...
TX, USA
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Originally Posted By DstryrOfWrlds:
That is going to be a well traveled MBT. It will most likely be routed through Alaska! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By DstryrOfWrlds:
Originally Posted By ah64pilot:
Originally Posted By DstryrOfWrlds:
Originally Posted By ah64pilot:
snip And that's how I received it. Well, after traveling from Dallas to Houston via Florida, I can understand why! Glad it finally made it! Me too! Here's hoping it finds a direct flight to Montana! Lol! That is going to be a well traveled MBT. It will most likely be routed through Alaska! Let's hope not, it would never make it out of there lol! |
LaRuemiNaughty
Proud member of Team Ranstad..."The Fantastic Bastards" Society of the Crown® Tennessee Squire |
I installed and dry fired last night. Very happy I bought. Installing second one tonight.
Thanks for the free schwag. Only thing I miss is the big black rubber bands. Lol. I've gotta call and see if you sell em. |
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Finally got to live fire this thing. By far the most consistent, precision trigger I have shot in the AR platform. First stage is minimal take up and then breaks very clean, identical to a high end bolt action trigger. The wide face and curve of the trigger provide a solid feeling between man and machine. Reset is fast and follow up shots and double taps are a breeze.
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Originally Posted By BigMHoff:
I installed and dry fired last night. Very happy I bought. Installing second one tonight. Thanks for the free schwag. Only thing I miss is the big black rubber bands. Lol. I've gotta call and see if you sell em. View Quote Shipping out a thousand plus MBTs in short order proved the rubber band wasn't a sure thing ... but I get what ya mean, can't ever have enough cool rubber bands on the reloading bench. |
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I have been asked to point out that I am LaRue Tactical's owner.
My work has been used by tens of thousands of US Military personnel, and tens of thousands of civilian shooters - ML |
Just installed the second one. It really makes it a lot easier to put in the hammer pin if you get the holes kinda lined up, then push the hammer down so it locks. There's no fighting the spring.
Examining the triggers side by side In your hands really shows the build quality of the LaRue parts. They just feel like quality. I've only dry fired so far, but it's nice. Crisp. Makes my NYS mandated frankenguns feel like quality. Thanks. |
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Originally Posted By BigMHoff:
Just installed the second one. It really makes it a lot easier to put in the hammer pin if you get the holes kinda lined up, then push the hammer down so it locks. There's no fighting the spring. Examining the triggers side by side In your hands really shows the build quality of the LaRue parts. They just feel like quality. I've only dry fired so far, but it's nice. Crisp. Makes my NYS mandated frankenguns feel like quality. Thanks. View Quote Hmmm, an unanticipated benefit, thanks for sharing your observation. |
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I have been asked to point out that I am LaRue Tactical's owner.
My work has been used by tens of thousands of US Military personnel, and tens of thousands of civilian shooters - ML |
Got my MBT installed in my .308. First impressions, very good trigger. Like others have said, it has a nice light take up and then hits a wall. There is no movement past this wall until the trigger breaks. The break is crisp, there is no mush or bend. After the trigger breaks, there is very little overtravel followed with a short and positive reset. It is a little heavier than some of my other match AR triggers but not enough to make any difference.
I am not a fanboy or loyal to any brand, I just use what works best for me. I have been a happy owner of 4 Geissele triggers (SSA's, SSA-E, SD-E) because they worked better that what I had previously tried. While the LaRue has a slightly different "feel", it seems to be a very well made trigger and gives up little to a Geissele. If these are priced competitively, they will be a top contender for a high end hunting/tactical trigger. I would recommend. |
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John 8:12 "I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life."
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Originally Posted By mathecb:
Got my MBT installed in my .308. First impressions, very good trigger. Like others have said, it has a nice light take up and then hits a wall. There is no movement past this wall until the trigger breaks. The break is crisp, there is no mush or bend. After the trigger breaks, there is very little overtravel followed with a short and positive reset. It is a little heavier than some of my other match AR triggers but not enough to make any difference. I am not a fanboy or loyal to any brand, I just use what works best for me. I have been a happy owner of 4 Geissele triggers (SSA's, SSA-E, SD-E) because they worked better that what I had previously tried. While the LaRue has a slightly different "feel", it seems to be a very well made trigger and gives up little to a Geissele. If these are priced competitively, they will be a top contender for a high end hunting/tactical trigger. I would recommend. View Quote |
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I have been asked to point out that I am LaRue Tactical's owner.
My work has been used by tens of thousands of US Military personnel, and tens of thousands of civilian shooters - ML |
I have been asked to point out that I am LaRue Tactical's owner.
My work has been used by tens of thousands of US Military personnel, and tens of thousands of civilian shooters - ML |
Just ordered mine today I cannot wait!!!!!!
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Just installed one I bought off of Amazon (had to bump your Amazon sales numbers!) and installed it in an Aero lower tonight. Very smooth and very easy to get the pins in and out. Great feel..... Just like the one in my tOBR 7.62
This aero build also includes one of the stealth barrels I bought off the promo sale a few weeks back.... Gonna be a fine rifle when I get her finished! ZA |
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Just received mine today, the quality from looks and handling are amazing have not had a chance to install yet but I will tonight. Will update once installed and after some range time. All of the extra goodies where an added bonus as well thanks for the awesome product mark!!!!!
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trigger is installed feels amazing while dry firing. I played with it next to my roomates SSA and as others have said I prefer the flatter bow. Also I love how consistent this thing seems, will update again once I get some good range time behind the trigger.
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I have purchased many LaRue products in the past and it was no surprise that the MBT-25 trigger is top notch. It is in the same realm as the Geissele's and Wilson Combat triggers. I have had both on rifles and I can say, if you can't hit the target or get the groups that you want, it's not the triggers fault!. It was packaged in the round tin and came with the LaRue hat, bottle opener, and Dillo Dust. Install was a breeze with the trigger pin in the trigger and the hammer pin standing up in the foam. The only hiccup I had while installing was after installing the trigger and trigger pin, I went to install the hammer and the trigger pin just fell out. I had to do the armorer's crawl for a few minutes to find it, but i did and the rest of the install went as it should have. I have a Geissele SSA trigger on another AR, and the LaRue MBT is about the same poundage, but has a much crisper break. So I like it better than my Geissele, but slightly lees than the Wilson Combat. I would buy this before the Wilson Combat though as it's $50 less, and I don't like the Wilson Combat one $50 more. View Quote |
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I would take the MBT over a Wilson any day. Consistency and reliability are more important to me than the slightly shorter takeup of the Wilson. I have had both, and I would take the MBT any day for those reasons..... The lower price for the MBT seals the deal!!!!
In fact, I hated the Wilson so much that I didn't even sell it, I gave it away!!!! I don't sell junk!!!!! |
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Originally Posted By LUVONEGOD:
I would take the MBT over a Wilson any day. Consistency and reliability are more important to me than the slightly shorter takeup of the Wilson. I have had both, and I would take the MBT any day for those reasons..... The lower price for the MBT seals the deal!!!! In fact, I hated the Wilson so much that I didn't even sell it, I gave it away!!!! I don't sell junk!!!!! View Quote I have not tried a Wilson and don't intend to. I installed my MBT into the 10.5" 300 BLK I just built. My observations comparing the MBT to the AR GOLD in my 7.62 tOBR, and Geissele's SSA and SSA-E: 1ST Stage: The MBT 1st stage is extremely smooth, similar to the AR GOLD trigger in my 7.62 tOBR but not as short a length of pull. The MBT 1st stage is smoother than my Geissele SSA-E and approximately the same length of pull. 2nd Stage: The second stage on the MBT is similar to the SSA in pull weight (a little too heavy for precision work for me) however after 20 or 30 trigger pulls of the SSA, SSA-E and the MBT, the MBT has a much crisper let-off compared to my SSA-E. My SSA-E is nice but it has an ever-so-slight amount of creep before break. The AR-Gold trigger has them all beat on the second stage crispness, although if the MBT had a lighter 2nd stage pull, it would probably beat out even the AR-GOLD (Hint-Hint). Reset: The MBT reset is very similar to the Geissele's, with an affirmative felt and audible click, whereas the AR-Gold is very light and short. Depending on what application you are choosing a trigger for will determine the importance in weighting the type of reset you like. For precision, I prefer the lighter and shorter reset of the AR-GOLD. For the use of the MBT in my 300 BLK, I am okay with the reset. Trigger Bow: I really like the wider flat bow on the MBT compared to the skinny-ass bow of the AR GOLD. I will have to get more live-fire trigger time of the MBT flat bow compared to the Geissele's, but for now I really like the MBT bow. Robustness: I had my tOBR apart last night and was looking at the AR-GOLD trigger and in my opinion the sear is very small and does not appear to be as if it will last. I may be wrong and it may give me years of service, but that is just my personal opinion. I keep thinking about changing it as I am looking for a lighter 2nd stage pull weight. (I am considering the Geissele High Speed National Match). The Geissele triggers look like they are forged then machined (EDM wire cut), so in that respect, the MBT beats them all in the robustness category. I thought about driving the pin out on the disconnect and changing the spring or snipping a coil on the MBT to lighten the 2nd stage to try it in my tOBR, but I am just going to leave it in my 300 BLK. Maybe Mark will design an adjustable MBT so I can get the pull down to .5 lb then maybe I could shoot my tOBR a little better. Speaking of my tOBR, I shot the last of my SBS brass 175 SMK's with 42.1 gr RE-15 powder and I was shooting 5 shot groups all in one ragged hole of just under .5" at 100 yds. I just loaded up 100 rds of test loads using LC '12 brass RE-15 and H4895 powder, going to shoot them this week. |
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Very interested in your H4895 loads as that is the powder I have for loading 168 & 175gr SMK's in .308. I will be keeping the IMR 3031 for the 150 grain loads on the .30-'06..... Still checking out loads for .223 using H4895, IMR3031, and 8208..... (Powders I already have on hand)
I also have some LeveRevolution for the 30-30, has anybody tried this on .223???? I have seen a few loads for .308 with this powder..... |
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