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any idea when the triggers that we ordered will go out? (i.e. not the ones in the giveaway?) - was hoping it to give it as a Christmas gift to my father and pick some up for myself after the holidays (secretly hoping to win, but since that didn't happen i'm going to pick up a couple after the holidays - and after I get through my IRS audit... sad face).... Likely by end of year - we are in full production and want to put them in our rifles, but not before the contestants and pre-buyers have theirs in hand. I am revising that - due to quite a number of winners not checking in yet, some pre-buys go out on Monday. I'd be more than happy to check in for one of the winners if they're a no show. Ditto |
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any idea when the triggers that we ordered will go out? (i.e. not the ones in the giveaway?) - was hoping it to give it as a Christmas gift to my father and pick some up for myself after the holidays (secretly hoping to win, but since that didn't happen i'm going to pick up a couple after the holidays - and after I get through my IRS audit... sad face).... Likely by end of year - we are in full production and want to put them in our rifles, but not before the contestants and pre-buyers have theirs in hand. I am revising that - due to quite a number of winners not checking in yet, some pre-buys go out on Monday. nice! i got him a larue range bag with an accuracy first sand bag - i won't wrap it just yet in hopes that a trigger arrives in the mail to put inside the bag... |
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Well, technically, the old back-orders were billed as "with this or that trigger" in it. We are wrapping up backorders and can then change the website. Then any rifles sold will be bought per the website, with MBTs. And yeah, if we had the winners and pre-buyers taken care of, I'd be asking rifle backorders if they want to change triggers, but not quite yet. ETA - Standing by for 23 more 1st-blush reviews. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Likely by end of year - we are in full production and want to put them in our rifles, but not before the contestants and pre-buyers have theirs in hand. You probably don't need someone to tell you... but putting MBT's into your rifles is a great idea. Well, technically, the old back-orders were billed as "with this or that trigger" in it. We are wrapping up backorders and can then change the website. Then any rifles sold will be bought per the website, with MBTs. And yeah, if we had the winners and pre-buyers taken care of, I'd be asking rifle backorders if they want to change triggers, but not quite yet. ETA - Standing by for 23 more 1st-blush reviews. Well I just placed an order for my tOBR 5.56 yesterday, X-Mas gift from the wife. I give you my permission to put the MBT in it |
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MBT review submitted on the Larue website. Copy it here, I can't find it. It was a copy/paste from the review I did earlier in this thread. Post up your reviews folks. http://www.laruetactical.com/larue-tactical-mbt-2s-trigger ETA: I love this trigger. The first stage take-up is short but well defined. It feels a bit less than the SSA it replaced but still enough to to give total control. (I do have a set screw installed to take up trigger pre-slack so that could be the reason the first stage feels shorter) The stop as it hits the second stage is solid, well defined and very controllable. Just a bit more squeeze and the break is nice and crisp. As with the first stage, the weight to break the trigger feels less than the SSA and when it goes, it feels like breaking a pencil lead. It's instantaneous and there is absolutely no slop or travel. It's simply squeeze and break. The broad width of the trigger feels great on my fat finger and just fits. I can easily say that I like this trigger more than the SSA. (which I also love) I wish I had an SSA-E on hand to compare to but the MBT is going to be a tough act to follow. Mark and company scored another win with this one. |
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Do these triggers use standard GI pins, or are they slightly oversized like Rock River uses on their 2-stage triggers?
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Mark, does it matter if we use the anti rotation pins? I know Geissele recommends not using them with their triggers.
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I tried to install my MBT trigger. Got it installed and it wouldn't fire. Hmmmm........ My calipers have a dead battery but the problem was easy to spot without measuring. The trigger is a tad wide and won't fit into the safety, or the safety is too narrow for the trigger. Either way It won't work in my A2 lower until I get a safety that has a slightly wider notch. Robbed the safety from my CavAid lower(remember those?) It works. So, out with the Jard, in with the MBT Pics http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v145/ZekeMenuar1/Larue_zpsf2e70166.jpg View Quote Roger all that. Looks like we might revive putting a little tickle cut right there. |
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Quoted: Out with the old... http://i1137.photobucket.com/albums/n516/cgrant26/a84ba8a6-65a4-4b66-9cf4-c0453212b190_zpsc37451c9.jpg In with the new. http://i1137.photobucket.com/albums/n516/cgrant26/20141219_212854_zps89bd6a14.jpg http://i1137.photobucket.com/albums/n516/cgrant26/20141219_213742_zpsf11b2274.jpg http://i1137.photobucket.com/albums/n516/cgrant26/309e0a6f-22c8-4d21-8561-5278bf1fd737_zps5bb3c295.jpg First impressions: I love this trigger. The first stage take-up is short but well defined. It feels a bit less than the SSA it replaced but still enough to to give total control. (I do have a set screw installed to take up trigger pre-slack so that could be the reason the first stage feels shorter) The stop as it hits the second stage is solid, well defined and very controllable. Just a bit more squeeze and the break is nice and crisp. As with the first stage, the weight to break the trigger feels less than the SSA and when it goes, it feels like breaking a pencil lead. It's instantaneous and there is absolutely no slop or travel. It's simply squeeze and break. The broad width of the trigger feels great on my fat finger and just fits. I can easily say that I like this trigger more than the SSA. (which I also love) I wish I had an SSA-E on hand to compare to but the MBT is going to be a tough act to follow. Mark and company scored another win with this one. View Quote |
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Out with the old... http://i1137.photobucket.com/albums/n516/cgrant26/a84ba8a6-65a4-4b66-9cf4-c0453212b190_zpsc37451c9.jpg In with the new. http://i1137.photobucket.com/albums/n516/cgrant26/20141219_212854_zps89bd6a14.jpg http://i1137.photobucket.com/albums/n516/cgrant26/20141219_213742_zpsf11b2274.jpg http://i1137.photobucket.com/albums/n516/cgrant26/309e0a6f-22c8-4d21-8561-5278bf1fd737_zps5bb3c295.jpg First impressions: I love this trigger. The first stage take-up is short but well defined. It feels a bit less than the SSA it replaced but still enough to to give total control. (I do have a set screw installed to take up trigger pre-slack so that could be the reason the first stage feels shorter) The stop as it hits the second stage is solid, well defined and very controllable. Just a bit more squeeze and the break is nice and crisp. As with the first stage, the weight to break the trigger feels less than the SSA and when it goes, it feels like breaking a pencil lead. It's instantaneous and there is absolutely no slop or travel. It's simply squeeze and break. The broad width of the trigger feels great on my fat finger and just fits. I can easily say that I like this trigger more than the SSA. (which I also love) I wish I had an SSA-E on hand to compare to but the MBT is going to be a tough act to follow. Mark and company scored another win with this one. Smooth. With a 2.5 lb first stage and 2 lb second, it's real smooth. Like I said, I don't have a lot of first stage travel in my setup so with a single, fluid pull, it's almost like the first stage isn't there. If I was so inclined, this would be a really easy trigger to bump fire. |
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I tried to install my MBT trigger. Got it installed and it wouldn't fire. Hmmmm........ My calipers have a dead battery but the problem was easy to spot without measuring. The trigger is a tad wide and won't fit into the safety, or the safety is too narrow for the trigger. Either way It won't work in my A2 lower until I get a safety that has a slightly wider notch. Robbed the safety from my CavAid lower(remember those?) It works. So, out with the Jard, in with the MBT Pics http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v145/ZekeMenuar1/Larue_zpsf2e70166.jpg Roger all that. Looks like we might revive putting a little tickle cut right there. Falarak's email showed he ran into same issue. That makes two. Falarak, We searched high and low for something that would not work, and bam, there's at least 2 of the first 25. Since I wanted to keep a clean look I decided we'd wait and see. These first hundred Giveaways are going to be even more unique cause we'll obviously have to add the tickle cuts for next rev. letter. Thanks for the heads-up. Can you scare up another safety in something and swap it out ? Mark If you made your own ambi safety selectors we would know there wouldn't be an issue. I think I'm doing it wrong, Mark doesn't know anything about ambi safety selectors. On a serious note, looks like the reviews are coming in great and I'm gonna have to end up with one of these now. |
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Hmmm thanks for details, but need more info from guys not using set screws as well. I had never even heard of that before this thread. I've wondered if that tapped hole there was serendipity ... It is easier to tap a through hole ... just wondering if the location was picked for dual use. |
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Hmmm thanks for details, but need more info from guys not using set screws as well. View Quote No set screws - forged lower with LT pins and a BAD-ASS safety. (So I didn't run into the wide trigger/narrow safety issue). Smooth pull through to the break. Using the LaRuler held over the trigger - looks like about .06" from 'at rest' to 'staged' and maybe .02" after the break fully back. I can't do any fancy measurements, I used a point a fraction above the end of the side 'cut out' on the trigger as a measuring point. |
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Probably worth mentioning that I'm also using a BAD ASS selector with the MBT. No width issues between the safety and trigger.
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Here is my review. I got number 005/100: http://s2.postimg.org/pui38sd0p/screenshot_27.png http://s2.postimg.org/j5g56ih2h/screenshot_28.png http://s2.postimg.org/lo1u772sp/screenshot_29.png http://s2.postimg.org/hg71yg1d5/screenshot_30.png A little background: I am a big fan of 2-stage triggers. Every AR15/AR10 I own has one. I was a huge fan of the RRA trigger for years. Since then I have owned many Geissele's. SSA, SSA-E, HS NM DMR, G2S. I have had good and some bad experiences with lots of triggers over the years. Upon initial inspection, I noticed a few things: LaRue has used a roll pin instead of the traditional J-pin to hold the hammer spring from walking. Interesting. I also noticed it holds it very tightly, which is a good thing. http://s2.postimg.org/z7iocwgrr/screenshot_31.png The overall design of the trigger is very similar to the early Armalite/RRA 2-stage triggers, it uses a pinned disconnector. RRA on the left, LaRue on the oversized pins, which have to be pounded into the lower: http://s2.postimg.org/y92bam3ft/screenshot_34.png LaRue uses standard .154" pins. They were easy to assemble to the lower: http://s2.postimg.org/s9ek6yind/screenshot_35.png The trigger assembly, since the disconnector is pinned, is very easy to install to the lower. No "fitting pin" is really needed like with other triggers which use a floating disconnector. Just drop in and install the pin. http://s2.postimg.org/oeb64dzhl/screenshot_36.png The hammer install like all AR15 hammers, laying the hammer spring legs on top of the trigger pin, to keep the trigger pin from walking. For some reason, this hammer is easier to install than others, perhaps because of its shape and smoothed edges. I used a small rubber/brass tap hammer to tap the hammer pin past the "j-pin" in the hammer, which is require for most all triggers. http://s2.postimg.org/p53wa61ux/screenshot_37.png On to installing the safety. As a lefty - I use a Troy ambi-safety in all my weapons. I love them. However, it was incompatible with this trigger. The tail of the LaRue trigger bar is a bit too wide to fit into this safety. The Troy safety is really narrow compared to factory safeties I had laying around, which is was impacted this. I'll probably modify the LaRue trigger to fit in the future, but for now I assembled it with a factory Rock River safety. It went together perfectly. On to testing the trigger. The actual trigger surface of the LaRue MBT is unique, it is wide and flat, but utilizes a curved bow. At first look, I thought I would not like the feel of the trigger. However, once I sat down and start dry firing, I realized how much I like the wide flat face of the trigger, as compared to other triggers. The first stage take-up of the MBT was lighter than several other triggers I own, and exceedingly smooth. It came immediately and consistently to a wall which is the second stage. A good 2-stage trigger will allow you to be able to come up to your second stage, and hold, let off, and consistently repeat. The LaRue trigger is actually the smoothest of my triggers in this department. On the second stage: It was heavier feeling than my RRA and Geissele triggers, but very crisp. I don't have a gauge for trigger pull weights, mostly because I go by what feels good, I never cared about poundage measurements. I'd describe the MBT as a light first stage, and heavy 2nd stage trigger. The second stage has just an ever so slightly detectable amount of creep. This is not bad - ALL 2-stage triggers with this design do. The engagement surfaces have a small amount of travel before releasing the hammer. I could just detect this when I pulled incredibly slowly, watching the trigger bar closely. Upon dry firing in a normal manner this was not noticeable. Then the trigger breaks like a candy cane snapping, with a slight amount of overtravel. I set up a Geissele SSA, SSA-E, and a High Speed National Match DMR side by side with this trigger. First stage, the MBT was the smoothest of the bunch. The SSA/SSA-E was a close second. My DMR trigger has some grit in the first stage. All three have a very solid hit into the second stage wall, which is repeatable. This is nice when engaging multiple targets at distance, where you very quickly pull through the first stage to rest on the second stage, while you are acquiring and holding on your next target, and you begin your squeeze through the second stage. The weight of the second stage was lightest in the SSA-E, which I use in my 3-gun rifle. However, the SSA-E has a lot of detectable creep in the second stage. I din this common when the second stage is light, as it is in the SSA-E. I generally don't mind because I use that trigger as a single stage most of the time, running and gunning. The break in all these triggers is great. Very consistent, and crisp. The flat wide surface of the MBT provides really good feedback to your finger during the second stage and through the break. On overtravel, which is the distance the trigger moves from the break to the max trigger travel, the MBT was the least of all my triggers. You don't want much trigger movement after the break in a precision trigger, so this is very good! On reset - I like a VERY short, and VERY noticeable reset. This seems to be rare in triggers. Seems the shortest resets also are very light, such as on the AR Gold trigger. The MBT had a very noticeable reset, loud audibly and via feel. It was not long, and comparable to the other triggers I was testing side by side. The only ding I can say, is the weight of the reset, was very light, it didn't pull your finger forward, you felt yourself having to let off. I prefer a heavier weight here on the reset. This is defined by the trigger spring weight, of which the LaRue MBT was already the lightest of the bunch. My personal preference would be a slightly heavier trigger spring. Overall, reset is very strong. Nice trigger. I am thrilled to own it, and look forward to getting some real trigger time. I installed it in my precision AR, which is a Krieger barreled, LaRue railed, tack driver. http://kevinholman.com/pics/guns/rifles/AR/spr2.jpg View Quote Thanks for the side-by-side review! |
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Unfortunately, I missed out on winning a MBT trigger. Really hoped It would have won one. I was hoping to put on one my latest Recce build. <a href="http://s100.photobucket.com/user/jamesrea_2006/media/Weapons%202014/001_zpsae5b7a80.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m8/jamesrea_2006/Weapons%202014/001_zpsae5b7a80.jpg</a> Since I cannot afford to buy a $250 trigger, it looks like a while before I can get anything to replace the mil-spec trigger in it right now. View Quote And your photobucket account has expired too ... |
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Unfortunately, I missed out on winning a MBT trigger. Really hoped It would have won one. I was hoping to put on one my latest Recce build. <a href="http://s100.photobucket.com/user/jamesrea_2006/media/Weapons%202014/001_zpsae5b7a80.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m8/jamesrea_2006/Weapons%202014/001_zpsae5b7a80.jpg</a> Since I cannot afford to buy a $250 trigger, it looks like a while before I can get anything to replace the mil-spec trigger in it right now. And your photobucket account has expired too ... |
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Unfortunately, I missed out on winning a MBT trigger. Really hoped It would have won one. I was hoping to put on one my latest Recce build. <a href="http://s100.photobucket.com/user/jamesrea_2006/media/Weapons%202014/001_zpsae5b7a80.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m8/jamesrea_2006/Weapons%202014/001_zpsae5b7a80.jpg</a> Since I cannot afford to buy a $250 trigger, it looks like a while before I can get anything to replace the mil-spec trigger in it right now. View Quote Until you can afford a Primo dinero trigger, try installing a JP Speed hammer and yellow spring. Will still run you $70, but will be very much improved. But in order to get an extremely light trigger with a short take up and let off, you will need to spend mucho ducats..... The LaRue MBT is on the lower price end of the high end performance triggers. If you prefer two-stage triggers, you will be hard pressed to find a better one for any price...... |
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