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14/100 Checking in with a potato picture http://i392.photobucket.com/albums/pp1/FrozInAK/20141219_202709_zpseb16972f.jpg View Quote Looking for said potato, I found a nice trigger ornament. |
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Just made the cutoff! <a href="http://s1137.photobucket.com/user/cgrant26/media/20141219_212854_zps89bd6a14.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1137.photobucket.com/albums/n516/cgrant26/20141219_212854_zps89bd6a14.jpg</a> View Quote Wow! that look very nice,..congrats!! |
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Looking for said potato, I found a nice trigger ornament. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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14/100 Checking in with a potato picture http://i392.photobucket.com/albums/pp1/FrozInAK/20141219_202709_zpseb16972f.jpg Looking for said potato, I found a nice trigger ornament. Whores... All of you... |
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I want to know how this trigger compares to the AR gold triggers which I LOVE by the way. Perfect reset, perfect take up and my wife loves them which is most important of all! She says "I put my crosshairs on the target, squeeze and that bullet goes Exactly where I wanted it..." Of course it doesn't hurt that it's a TOBR rifle LOL.
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I want to know how this trigger compares to the AR gold triggers which I LOVE by the way. Perfect reset, perfect take up and my wife loves them which is most important of all! She says "I put my crosshairs on the target, squeeze and that bullet goes Exactly where I wanted it..." Of course it doesn't hurt that it's a TOBR rifle LOL. View Quote TLDR: If Mark offers a trade in program, I'll send my AR-Gold back, and buy a BAD-ASS safety to go with the MBT. I prefer the 'feel' as well as the weight of the MBT over the AR-Gold. They can be compared, they are both good triggers, but they are different. And wall of text time - haven't made it to the range in 24 hours - waiting on a scope. Dryfire time - took the three 'high end' triggers checked for clear and did the dryfire, reset and weight test. AR-Gold (From tOBR) G HS-NM-DMR (in tOBR) LT MBT (in 300 BO setup, replaced S3G) At break - all three triggers are 'glass rods' when they break. It is very crisp, and there's near, or zero over travel. Trigger 'feel' - All three triggers have a unique trigger face and profile, they are all curved but the face of the trigger is distinct between each one, and I can identify them from feel alone without applying any pressure. The AR gold is a flat face, but narrow. It's a unique feel, and generally narrow triggers 'feel' heavier than they are. The G has a wide face that is slightly convex, it is the most 'traditional' feeling (aka feels like a Mil-spec face) of all three triggers. I don't have a pair of calipers, it's a wide trigger, but doesn't 'feel' as wide as the MBT. The MBT - has a very narrow machined edge and is otherwise a dead flat, smooth surfaced trigger. It has a great feel, and although it had the heaviest pull, it has great feedback. I really like the trigger face... Reset - the G and MBT have a very positive reset at the end of their forward travel, the AR gold resets very quickly, it is not as positive but it can be run very fast. Used a lyman trigger pull tool - I'm still pretty FNG with it, but it's pretty consistent. A bit tough to measure 1st stg so these numbers are close but may be +/- 1 to 2 oz. DMR 3 lbs 11.4 ozAverage Pull 3 lbs 3 ozFS 8 ozSS AR G 3 lbs 4.7 ozAverage Pull 11 oz FS 2 lb 9 ozSS MBT 4 lbs 8.3 ozAverage Pull 2 lbs 8 ozFS 2 lbsSS So - what does all this mean so far... well I need to get to the range and shoot the MBT - but I've shot both the G and AR gold. All 3 are high quality triggers, with excellent break. Some of 'what is right for me' is going to come down to how you like your trigger to feel. I much prefer a weight in the first stage and lighter second stage that the G excells at and MBT has as well. The AR gold, although it shoots fast, doesn't have the pull feel I like as much. I'm not a top tier 3 gunner, but I know the trigger is very popular in that crowd because it can be run fast. For supported 'precision' I much prefer a heavier takeup and lighter break. The MBT went into a 300 BO rifle which (knock wood) will be used for competition as well as hunting. The lack of adjustment means no moving parts, with no 'drift' out of adjustment, and it has a great balance in weight between the stages. When LT goes to the MBT as their 'stock' trigger, I'll be a happy guy when I buy a 7.62 rifle as that knocks the cost of a "G" or the outlay and swap for an AR-Gold off the table. |
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Congrats on the baby's winning number winning that trigger. But alas, the number for you wasn't successful ... so do let the baby know which rifle his trigger is in. |
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Ulfhednar_42,
So an even shorter version - we didn't muck up our new trigger. Since Daniel Boone's gunsmith made ol' Bess a usable trigger, I figured with all our Class A toolmakers and a 100+ CNCs that we could somehow pull it off. ETA - I do like both of your long versions - it took time and I plenty appreciate your scientific legwork. |
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TLDR: If Mark offers a trade in program, I'll send my AR-Gold back, and buy a BAD-ASS safety to go with the MBT. I prefer the 'feel' as well as the weight of the MBT over the AR-Gold. They can be compared, they are both good triggers, but they are different. And wall of text time - haven't made it to the range in 24 hours - waiting on a scope. Dryfire time - took the three 'high end' triggers checked for clear and did the dryfire, reset and weight test. AR-Gold (From tOBR) G HS-NM-DMR (in tOBR) LT MBT (in 300 BO setup, replaced S3G) At break - all three triggers are 'glass rods' when they break. It is very crisp, and there's near, or zero over travel. Trigger 'feel' - All three triggers have a unique trigger face and profile, they are all curved but the face of the trigger is distinct between each one, and I can identify them from feel alone without applying any pressure. The AR gold is a flat face, but narrow. It's a unique feel, and generally narrow triggers 'feel' heavier than they are. The G has a wide face that is slightly convex, it is the most 'traditional' feeling (aka feels like a Mil-spec face) of all three triggers. I don't have a pair of calipers, it's a wide trigger, but doesn't 'feel' as wide as the MBT. The MBT - has a very narrow machined edge and is otherwise a dead flat, smooth surfaced trigger. It has a great feel, and although it had the heaviest pull, it has great feedback. I really like the trigger face... Reset - the G and MBT have a very positive reset at the end of their forward travel, the AR gold resets very quickly, it is not as positive but it can be run very fast. Used a lyman trigger pull tool - I'm still pretty FNG with it, but it's pretty consistent. A bit tough to measure 1st stg so these numbers are close but may be +/- 1 to 2 oz. DMR 3 lbs 11.4 ozAverage Pull 3 lbs 3 ozFS 8 ozSS AR G 3 lbs 4.7 ozAverage Pull 11 oz FS 2 lb 9 ozSS MBT 4 lbs 8.3 ozAverage Pull 2 lbs 8 ozFS 2 lbsSS So - what does all this mean so far... well I need to get to the range and shoot the MBT - but I've shot both the G and AR gold. All 3 are high quality triggers, with excellent break. Some of 'what is right for me' is going to come down to how you like your trigger to feel. I much prefer a weight in the first stage and lighter second stage that the G excells at and MBT has as well. The AR gold, although it shoots fast, doesn't have the pull feel I like as much. I'm not a top tier 3 gunner, but I know the trigger is very popular in that crowd because it can be run fast. For supported 'precision' I much prefer a heavier takeup and lighter break. The MBT went into a 300 BO rifle which (knock wood) will be used for competition as well as hunting. The lack of adjustment means no moving parts, with no 'drift' out of adjustment, and it has a great balance in weight between the stages. When LT goes to the MBT as their 'stock' trigger, I'll be a happy guy when I buy a 7.62 rifle as that knocks the cost of a "G" or the outlay and swap for an AR-Gold off the table. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I want to know how this trigger compares to the AR gold triggers which I LOVE by the way. Perfect reset, perfect take up and my wife loves them which is most important of all! She says "I put my crosshairs on the target, squeeze and that bullet goes Exactly where I wanted it..." Of course it doesn't hurt that it's a TOBR rifle LOL. TLDR: If Mark offers a trade in program, I'll send my AR-Gold back, and buy a BAD-ASS safety to go with the MBT. I prefer the 'feel' as well as the weight of the MBT over the AR-Gold. They can be compared, they are both good triggers, but they are different. And wall of text time - haven't made it to the range in 24 hours - waiting on a scope. Dryfire time - took the three 'high end' triggers checked for clear and did the dryfire, reset and weight test. AR-Gold (From tOBR) G HS-NM-DMR (in tOBR) LT MBT (in 300 BO setup, replaced S3G) At break - all three triggers are 'glass rods' when they break. It is very crisp, and there's near, or zero over travel. Trigger 'feel' - All three triggers have a unique trigger face and profile, they are all curved but the face of the trigger is distinct between each one, and I can identify them from feel alone without applying any pressure. The AR gold is a flat face, but narrow. It's a unique feel, and generally narrow triggers 'feel' heavier than they are. The G has a wide face that is slightly convex, it is the most 'traditional' feeling (aka feels like a Mil-spec face) of all three triggers. I don't have a pair of calipers, it's a wide trigger, but doesn't 'feel' as wide as the MBT. The MBT - has a very narrow machined edge and is otherwise a dead flat, smooth surfaced trigger. It has a great feel, and although it had the heaviest pull, it has great feedback. I really like the trigger face... Reset - the G and MBT have a very positive reset at the end of their forward travel, the AR gold resets very quickly, it is not as positive but it can be run very fast. Used a lyman trigger pull tool - I'm still pretty FNG with it, but it's pretty consistent. A bit tough to measure 1st stg so these numbers are close but may be +/- 1 to 2 oz. DMR 3 lbs 11.4 ozAverage Pull 3 lbs 3 ozFS 8 ozSS AR G 3 lbs 4.7 ozAverage Pull 11 oz FS 2 lb 9 ozSS MBT 4 lbs 8.3 ozAverage Pull 2 lbs 8 ozFS 2 lbsSS So - what does all this mean so far... well I need to get to the range and shoot the MBT - but I've shot both the G and AR gold. All 3 are high quality triggers, with excellent break. Some of 'what is right for me' is going to come down to how you like your trigger to feel. I much prefer a weight in the first stage and lighter second stage that the G excells at and MBT has as well. The AR gold, although it shoots fast, doesn't have the pull feel I like as much. I'm not a top tier 3 gunner, but I know the trigger is very popular in that crowd because it can be run fast. For supported 'precision' I much prefer a heavier takeup and lighter break. The MBT went into a 300 BO rifle which (knock wood) will be used for competition as well as hunting. The lack of adjustment means no moving parts, with no 'drift' out of adjustment, and it has a great balance in weight between the stages. When LT goes to the MBT as their 'stock' trigger, I'll be a happy guy when I buy a 7.62 rifle as that knocks the cost of a "G" or the outlay and swap for an AR-Gold off the table. Excellent information, thanks! |
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#22 arrived at my AO yesterday and it is sweet! As already shown in prior posts, even the packaging is top drawer in true LT fashion!!
I really love the way my new tOBR runs and feels and thereby had no reason to even consider changing out the trigger. But ... if Mark built one from scratch there must be good reason so the swap to this beauty will occur, if for no reason other than to increase the purity of the weapon. It's been awhile since I've had face-time or even comms with Mark. I hope to correct that at SHOT so I can thank him properly! Until then: MERRY CHRISTMAS and a GREAT NEW YEAR TO ALL THE LT CREW (ESPECIALLY ML) RidgeDog
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Ridgedog,
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#48 arrived yesterday. Thanks so much to everyone. This is going in my go to rifle, that is until I can save up enough to make a Larue rifle my go to! Have a Merry Christmas.
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[#21]
A quick note on installing the MBT.
You'll probably have to remove the safety selector to get the MBT installed. I put mine into a Larue lower with the set screw mod to take up trigger slack. I was able to remove the SSA without taking the safety out but the MBT just wouldn't go in with the safety installed. I believe the width of the trigger lever going through the trigger opening in the lower is why the SSA had clearance while the MBT didn't. While this is a total non-issue, it's worth mentioning because it came *really* close to going in with the safety installed and if someone is excited enough they may feel the urge to force it that last little bit and gouge the edges of the trigger and/or lower. So this is more of a PSA to help prevent idiot marks. |
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C'mon Mark, pick my number. The Costa is begging for one Shouldn't you post that number in this thread to remind Mark which one it is? I could but then I'd have to quote myself and then give me a face |
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First, let me thank Mark Larue for the contest. I would also like to wish him and all of the great folks at Larue Tactical a most Merry Christmas and a happy and prosperous New Year! I was the first winner in the drawing here on ar15.com. Still can't believe it, should have bought a lottery ticket as well that day... So, like others here, I received a MBT-2S trigger on Friday the 19th. I was able to install it that evening but I wasn't able to post here about it until now. I'm working 12-hour days and I was well and truly exhausted... <snip> View Quote Congrats on getting 001! |
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Nice writeup!
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Quoted: First, let me thank Mark Larue for the contest. I would also like to wish him and all of the great folks at Larue Tactical a most Merry Christmas and a happy and prosperous New Year! I was the first winner in the drawing here on ar15.com. Still can't believe it, should have bought a lottery ticket as well that day... So, like others here, I received a MBT-2S trigger on Friday the 19th. I was able to install it that evening but I wasn't able to post here about it until now. I'm working 12-hour days and I was well and truly exhausted... First, the obligatory pictures: "The Box" along with my LT hat I wear on the job pretty much every day... http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/trigger11.JPG Contents of "The Box"... http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/trigger21.JPG Close-up of the trigger in it's cool packaging... http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/trigger41.JPG There can only be ONE and here it is...001/100...Thank You, Mark Larue! http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/trigger31.JPG And, lastly, the trigger and the rifle it went into just prior to installation. The rifle is what I like to refer to as a DMR-ish type M-4gery...16" BCM BFH barrel with a 10" Larue FF handguard. EO-Tech EXPS-3 and G33 Magnifier. Pretty damned accurate, now it has a trigger that will do it justice... http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/trigger5.JPG My initial impressions from dry firing today: This afternoon, I was able to compare it to a couple of rifles of a friend that have Geissele triggers, one with a SSA and another with a SSA-E. We didn't have a trigger pull gauge, however, so I can't give you exact weights on the triggers...I can only tell you what they felt like to ME. First stage is pretty similar on all 3 of the triggers. Second stage is where I noticed the biggest difference. The MBT-2S broke lighter than the SSA but not quite as light as the SSA-E. The second stage of the MBT-2S had very little creep and very little over-travel...less in both categories than either of the Geissele triggers. The break itself is very clean and "sharp". I read another review that compared it to like "breaking pencil lead". I strongly concur...very nice break. Other observations: I really like how wide the trigger itself is but the edge seems just a little sharp, it could use a wee bit more of a radius in it...just my $0.02. Very "beefy" construction, looks over-engineered and built to last. They're listed as being made from S7 Tool Steel...here's what I was able to dig up about S7 Tool Steel: "S7 is a shock-resistant air hardening tool steel, designed for high impact resistance at relatively high hardness. It offers toughness to withstand chipping and breaking, combined with high attainable hardness and good wear resistance. Typical Applications- Heavy Impact Punches, Warm Forging/Heading Dies, Plastic Injection Molds, Shear Blades, Powder Compaction Punches." Hmmmmm...sounds pretty much like the perfect material for a premium trigger group for AR's. Imagine that... Installation was easy and straightforward but, as stated elsewhere, you will have to remove the safety selector to install it. I went ahead and put a small dab of Molybdenum Disulfide grease on the bearing surfaces to help keep everything working smoothly. I should be able to get out to the range and give the rifle a proper workout next weekend. I'll follow up with another review after that but color me very impressed as of now. And I'm not easy to please...I work on aircraft parts for a living. If something's not right, it's my job to bitch about it. "No Free Rides". Guys, it looks like Mark & the folks at Larue Tactical have a real winner here. If you're sitting on the fence whether or not to get one, you're wasting time. These are kick-ass triggers... View Quote Congrats and thanks for the review
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OHHHHH mine was supposed to be here Tuesday and UPS sent notification it will be here a day early on MONDAY!!!!!!!
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I figured I wasn't going to win one, been right so far, so is there an estimated ship date for ones that were ordered?
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OHHHHH mine was supposed to be here Tuesday and UPS sent notification it will be here a day early on MONDAY!!!!!!! Thank you so much Mark for all you do on here.... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
OHHHHH mine was supposed to be here Tuesday and UPS sent notification it will be here a day early on MONDAY!!!!!!! Thank you so much Mark for all you do on here.... Lucky! I got this emailed to me: Your package scheduled for delivery on Tuesday, 12/23/2014 may be delayed due to unexpected circumstances. We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause. |
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Well just consider the avatar, may as well be. 9mm SMG, isn't that like a Mustang with a 4 cylinder? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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3713 Tardbag It's funny 'cause he's a bag of tards. Well just consider the avatar, may as well be. 9mm SMG, isn't that like a Mustang with a 4 cylinder? Maybe. But the MP5 is a very popular platform. |
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3713 Tardbag It's funny 'cause he's a bag of tards. Well just consider the avatar, may as well be. 9mm SMG, isn't that like a Mustang with a 4 cylinder? Maybe. But the MP5 is a very popular platform. I heard Mark doesn't know anything about SMGs |
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I figured I wasn't going to win one, been right so far, so is there an estimated ship date for ones that were ordered? You still have 13 chances to win! Or a few more chances to loose. This contest is like years worth of the loosing THFO contest. At least in the THFO, I can only loose once a month. |
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Or a few more chances to loose. This contest is like years worth of the loosing THFO contest. At least in the THFO, I can only loose once a month. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I figured I wasn't going to win one, been right so far, so is there an estimated ship date for ones that were ordered? You still have 13 chances to win! Or a few more chances to loose. This contest is like years worth of the loosing THFO contest. At least in the THFO, I can only loose once a month. Stay positive Brother - 'tis the Season! Bump this to the top!!!!!!! |
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