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Posted: 2/18/2012 3:46:13 AM
I waited over 6 months to get my stealth back in '09... sadly, I have to sell mine soon, but it is one awesome shooting AR. Just hang on and have some patience, because good things come to those who wait it out.

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Posted: 2/18/2012 2:43:09 PM
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Holy Shit, the derp is thick in this thread. If you don't want to wait, don't wait. LaRue makes a sweet rifle, but they're not the only game in town.

If I were you I'd wait, but if you're set on not waiting, build your own. Get yourself a noveske barrel with switchblock, a LaRue upper receiver, and whatever handguard you want. It will be cheaper and you'll then know how to do everything yourself.

If you're set on buying something, give Glen Seekins a call as his new uppers and handguards look really nice.
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Posted: 2/18/2012 8:53:05 PM
Originally Posted By Urimaginaryfrnd:
Definately - cancle your order - someone out there actually needs and deserves that rife, why dont you call Mattel and see if they cant build you one.


The OP asked a real question and this is your answer? Are you for real?


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Posted: 2/19/2012 3:04:28 PM

Originally Posted By 77Bronc:
Originally Posted By Urimaginaryfrnd:
Definately - cancle your order - someone out there actually needs and deserves that rife, why dont you call Mattel and see if they cant build you one.


The OP asked a real question and this is your answer? Are you for real?



He is after all, imaginary.

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Posted: 2/20/2012 8:28:18 AM
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Originally Posted By TeeRex:
I'd wait. Eventually you'll have a great rifle. Waiting sucks, but in this case it will be worth it.

When I ordered my OBR I had in in 8 days, but I would wait a few months no problem.


How did you manage to pull that off? I'd buy an OBR in a heartbeat for an 8 day wait.

I waited over 5 months for my predatar. It was worth it. Many times I considered calling and canceling the order. But I didn't. I waited and I'm happy with it now. What was rough was my FFL got it one day, I knew because I had the delivery confirmation, but didn't transfer it to me for whole other day, because he hadn't logged it in. Talk about agonizing. It was here, but you can't have it. Plus mine had a slight issue on stuff I'd ordered with it, so I had another week on top of that to make it right.

That's what I'm hung up on now. I'd purchase another Larue gun, but don't want to go through that wait again.

Don't cancel you'll regret it. Plus I don't see wait times going down anytime soon with the new shot show stuff.


It took about that long to get my OBR 5.56.
Ordered it and it was in my hands in about 2 weeks.
I didn't really dig on the pencil barrel of predatAR anyway.



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Posted: 2/20/2012 8:54:42 AM
I waited about 3 months for my 7.62 and about 2 for my 5.56. Just depends on what's happening when you get in line. My personal, unsubstantiated opinion is that they have to wait on parts from suppliers and that causes backlogs to build up.

In any event, I'd keep waiting. I was frustrated and griping while waiting on the first one but had so much fun with it I didn't notice the wait on the 2nd. Or try this to put things in perspective - order a GAP bolt gun and wait 10-12 months. Or a Wilson 1911.

The pencil barrel on the Predatar turns me off, too. The PredatOBR will fix that but is it worth another $500 for a different barrel (and gas block switch I likely will never touch)? I may say yes to that question but I know the wait will be pretty long.
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Posted: 2/20/2012 10:36:28 AM
Raven Holsters and Larue Rifles.

Sometimes you gotta wait to play. If you have a problem with it, then enjoy getting second best.

I'm about to order my Predatar, and I couldn't give two shits if the wait is 2 weeks or 20 weeks. I'll get my rifle eventually and thats that.
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Posted: 2/20/2012 11:09:52 AM
A great option for you would be the favorite of the Juarez, Sinaloa. and Gulf cartels.......
Cartels favorite AR

and a nice red dot ......Red Dot from another compnay that has a monthly contest


And with the money you save , you can buy a lot of Tula or Brown bear ammo. Ammo

Wow, what a deal ! No doubt you could have all this by Friday !




....as everyone moves up one space in the waiting line.
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Posted: 2/20/2012 5:53:53 PM
SR15E3 all the way.
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Posted: 2/21/2012 11:47:11 AM
I'd wait it out. My wife's PredatAR is a sub 1/2 moa rifle!!! Even in its purple dyed glory.
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Posted: 2/21/2012 3:56:35 PM
Originally Posted By TylerC:

Originally Posted By 77Bronc:
Originally Posted By Urimaginaryfrnd:
Definately - cancle your order - someone out there actually needs and deserves that rife, why dont you call Mattel and see if they cant build you one.


The OP asked a real question and this is your answer? Are you for real?



He is after all, imaginary.


So the OP comes to the LaRue fourm to complain its taking too long - Im canceling my order - what should I get. RIGHT :
"So I think I'm going to be canceling my order for the predatAR 5.56. It's is just taking them to long to get my rifle done. Wanted to get your opinion on what other rifle you guys would get if you couldn't get a larue?"
Now the general group answer is OH Poor Thing you should wait the wait will be worth it. Now I can not argue with the idea that the wait will be worth it because it is the best dam rifle built on an AR platform. But either you are they type of guy who wants and needs a top quality weapon system or you are not and if you are not there are plenty of companies out there willing to sell you an OK but not GREAT rifle right now. So YEP - SOMEONE OUT THERE ACTUALLY NEEDS AND DESERVES THAT RIFLE - SOMEONE WHO IS WILLING TO PAY MORE WAIT LONGER TO HAVE THE BEST - BECAUSE THEY UNDERSTAND THEIR LIFE MAY DEPEND ON IT. So if all you need is a toy by all means cancle your order and let someone who really needs that rifle have it . Suck it up and quit being a crybaby there are real men in line behind you who need that rifle if you dont.
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Posted: 2/22/2012 5:46:15 AM
Is the Predatar better than an SR15E3 or Noveske Recce? They all are good weapons that may be more appropriate for certain uses. This seems like a troll thread. If the Predatar is most desirable for your intended purposes then it is worth the wait.
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Posted: 2/22/2012 10:53:21 AM
Yes - It's better:

PredatAR 5.56 Overview

The PredatAR 5.56 is designed for those who are searching for a lightweight, ultra-reliable and accurate 5.56 mm NATO rifle for home-defense, competition-shooting or hunting. The PredatAR takes the highly accurate OBR 5.56 “Lite” design, and lightens it in every possible way with the least possible impact to the accuracy that the standard OBR is known for. By contouring the barrel, skeletonizing the handguard, lowering and simplifying the upper rail, and using a low-profile gas block, we were able to reduce roughly 2 pounds from the standard OBR 5.56 rifle.

The barrels are LW-50 stainless steel, lightweight-profiled, Wylde chambered and feature polygonal rifling in a 1/8 twist rate. LW-50 Stainless has proven itself for over 15 years, in military and civilian uses ranging from sniper, tactical, target, and other high-performance applications where long life and accuracy are critical. All barrels are threaded in ½ x 28, with an A2 flash hider attached* (other muzzle devices can be added at an additional cost).

The handguards on the PredatAR extend out 14.75”, to suit a larger range of shooting styles. The zero-MOA upper rail provides plenty of room for weapon-mounted night-vision day/night combinations. Both the upper and lower are CNC-machined from billet 7075-T6, for the optimum fit and consistency. Even though we lightened certain features, there is still additional material in strategic areas to achieve maximum accuracy. Each rifle ships with one, 3” long, MIL-STD-1913 detachable rail section.

Both models come with a 6-position Magpul MOE Stock and Pistol Grip in Magpul Olive Drab (OD). The Bolt Carriers are hand-polished hard-chrome with max-staked carrier keys, with Texas-Spec Bolt assemblies. The lower assembly has the proven Geissele Two-Stage trigger.

(Iron Sights, Optics and QD mounts not included in price)
Base model includes OD Magpul MOE Stock and Pistol Grip, 1 Aluminum Magazine, 1 Rail Strip, and A2 Flash Hider
LaRue Tactical Rifle Sales to “Ban States”
(Read if your rifle is being shipped to CA, CT, HI, MD, MA, NJ, NY, or WA)

Rifles with features including flash suppressors, bayonet lugs, collapsible stocks and high-capacity magazines are subject to regulation in certain States, Counties, and Cities.

How does LaRue Tactical configure rifles for “Ban States”?
LaRue Rifles will ship with low-capacity (10-Round) magazines as appropriate
LaRue Tactical will pin and weld a muzzle device (of any type we sell in accordance with local law)
LaRue Tactical will not pin a collapsible stock (in those cases, we ship with a fixed A2 Stock)
LaRue Rifles have no bayonet lug

It is important to know that the extension tube of an A2 stock is different from that of a collapsible stock.

––––––––––––––––––––-Induvidual State Variances Below ––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––

Below, are the individual “Ban State” exceptions to our standard rifle configurations:
LaRue Tactical Rifle customers need to check their own State, County, and City laws to determine the legality of rifles with these features.

CALIFORNIA:
- LaRue Tactical Rifles ship with fixed (Bullet Button) magazine configuration, and 10-Round Magazines

CONNECTICUT:
- LaRue Tactical Rifles ship with pinned and welded Muzzle Device, Fixed A2 Stock

HAWAII:
- LaRue Tactical Rifles ship with 10-Round Magazines

MARYLAND:
- LaRue Tactical Rifles ship with 20-Round Magazines

MASSACHUSETTS:
- LaRue Tactical Rifles ship with pinned and welded Muzzle Device, Fixed A2 Stock, 10-Round Magazines

NEW JERSEY:
- LaRue Tactical Rifles ship with pinned and welded Muzzle Device, Fixed A2 Stock, 10-Round Magazines

NEW YORK:
- LaRue Tactical Rifles ship with pinned and welded Muzzle Device, Fixed A2 Stock, 10-Round Magazines

WASHINGTON:
- No Short Barreled Rifles (SBR’s), or barrels less than 16.1” in total length.

XTRAXN™ is a proprietary chamber feature added to reduce frictional forces caused by pressure-expanded cartridge cases bearing against chamber walls. Facilitates reliable extraction through a wide range of temperature / chamber pressure extremes. XTRAXN™ extends extractor life, while having no effect on the firearm's accuracy. All this, and it dovetails well with the OBR's world-famous accuracy.

■Caliber: 5.56 x 45 mm NATO
■Rifle Weight: 6.25 lb. (based on 16.1” barrel version, unloaded without optics)
■Barrel Length: 18“
■Rifling Twist Rate: 1/8
■Muzzle Thread Configuration: ½ x 28 *
■Barrel Material: LW50 Stainless Steel, Blackened.
■Barrel Life: 10,000 (approx)
■Gas System: Mid-Length Direct Impingement
■Trigger Group: Two-Stage Geissele
■Rate of Fire: Semi automatic
■Magazine Capacity: 30 rounds

* * Except where restricted by State and local laws
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Posted: 2/22/2012 8:51:18 PM
Nah that doesnt necessarily make it better, just different.
It could be argued the E3 has a better lower,
the Noveske a better barrel, etc.
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Posted: 2/22/2012 9:18:51 PM
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Nah that doesnt necessarily make it better, just different.
It could be argued the E3 has a better lower,
the Noveske a better barrel, etc.




Ok, time to go home! Past your curfew!
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Posted: 2/22/2012 9:25:53 PM
Originally Posted By Urimaginaryfrnd:
Yes - It's better:

PredatAR 5.56 Overview

****


This nonsense is supposed to make it better? For who? Highly opinionated.

It always boils down to shooter choice.

For me, the SR15e3 is my choice e3 bolt and the masterfully created lower has me sold.
For others, they don't like proprietary nature so they gravitate to an interoperable option giving them the greatest options for aftermarket upgrades.
Others consider pistons the best breed due to the incredible reliability.

If I was the original poster I would ask myself what are the most important features you are looking for and look at all vendors to see what fits.

To the OP: In an effort to aid and not just be a blind fan boy, what features are you looking for?
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Posted: 2/23/2012 1:01:30 AM
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Wow! Such a simple question as touched a sensitive nerve for some. I even had a private message with their opinion, I'm guessing they knew what type of response he would get here suggesting other rifles, lol. Truthfully, I like the way the larue rifle looks and being from TX I thought it would be cool to own an excellent rifle from my own state. Yup, for some of us its just that simple, but for others it may be different. Once I get my hands on the rifle I may realize that it's exactly what I want or maybe I may see that its not for me and go another route.

Either way thanks for the responses and as I said I'll wait a bit more and see what happens.

Here let me start another debate....Why is Ford better than Chevy.
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Posted: 2/23/2012 1:54:40 AM
Originally Posted By BCV:
Originally Posted By an_hero:
Nah that doesnt necessarily make it better, just different.
It could be argued the E3 has a better lower,
the Noveske a better barrel, etc.




Ok, time to go home! Past your curfew!


The E3's CHF barrel is no slouch either. Again, it depends
on the application. The Noveske barrel has the heavier
chrome lining similar to MG barrels. LT doesn't even offer
a chrome lined barrel.
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Posted: 2/23/2012 2:05:47 AM
Originally Posted By attila79:
...snip...

Here let me start another debate....Why is Ford better than Chevy.


It's not.












If I had one in line, I'd wait. This is coming from someone who has yet to even hold one of their fine products even though I live about three miles from the shop.

I will have a Stealth 12" upper in the next few months.
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Posted: 2/23/2012 1:17:59 PM
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Originally Posted By an_hero:
The E3's CHF barrel is no slouch either. Again, it depends
on the application. The Noveske barrel has the heavier
chrome lining similar to MG barrels. LT doesn't even offer
a chrome lined barrel.


AFAIK, Chrome lining was proven to reduce accuracy, so you either get a dead on accurate barrel or long life, easy to clean one.

Originally Posted By attila79:
So I think I'm going to be canceling my order for the predatAR 5.56. It's is just taking them to long to get my rifle done. Wanted to get your opinion on what other rifle you guys would get if you couldn't get a larue?


Unbiased opinions are usually the way to go if you want a correct answer, I'm not sure why you would think to ask this question here. FYI, I waited 5 months to get a RRA upper...

ETA: Chevy, for a fleet truck they save us about $20k per truck in repair costs.
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Posted: 2/23/2012 6:47:40 PM

Originally Posted By CFCNC:

ETA: Chevy, for a fleet truck they save us about $20k per truck in repair costs.

With a diesel pick up truck, Dodge has the best engine, Chevy the best automatic transmission, and Ford the best crew cab body. A Ford Crew Cab long bed F350 with a CTD and a Allison Trans would be my choice.
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Posted: 2/23/2012 10:31:57 PM
Guess what ––- its still better
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Posted: 2/24/2012 8:25:51 AM
It worth it...I preordered my PredatAR when it was first announced.
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Posted: 2/24/2012 3:28:38 PM
Originally Posted By CFCNC:
Originally Posted By an_hero:
The E3's CHF barrel is no slouch either. Again, it depends
on the application. The Noveske barrel has the heavier
chrome lining similar to MG barrels. LT doesn't even offer
a chrome lined barrel.


AFAIK, Chrome lining was proven to reduce accuracy


Wrong. FN's A5 bolt guns have chromed barrels.
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