I've used 6.5-20, 5.5-22....both worked well depending on ranges you plan to engage.

I'm going to give the Bushnell HDMR a try for the PredatOBR I'm going to order.

Still Deciding if I want to Share it w my 300WM or dedicate a glass to it.
Looking at USO 3.8-17
Range 700yards currently is the longest.

MOA is what I'm using
Yes match reticle to turrets.

Hearing that MOA is being phased out, but I'm seeing new reticles in MOA.

Would Love the GEN II XR in MOA.

my thoguhts

I went with the Vortex Viper HS LR 4-16x44 on my 18" PredatAR 7.62, no regrets at all. It's MOA MOA. Great glass and only paid $460 with shipping from Liberty Optics before Christmas and the price increases in 2012.

thanks Urimaginaryfrnd, thats a good read. interesting too.

yea i've been reading alot online and ran across a site about mil vs moa..
Since the Military was Mil' I guess they assumed MOA was goin out..LOL

I'm thinking now..
300WM to 800-1000yd
US optics MOA MOA 3.2-17

ACOG TA-11 - Hits out to 800 yards on man sized steel.

That sir is bad ass.

Why is that?

We live in a 6,400 mil world...

So long as the click adjustments are in the same type of measurement as the reticle it does make useing it easier. There are some companies that have good MOA based reticles Nightforce and Sightron both have some very nice ones. Traditionally most tactical scopes were mil dot reticles with 1/4 moa clicks. With a mil based reticle having mil based clicks makes a lot of sense. That however does not mean that 1/4 moa clicks are going away on all scopes. Most scope buyers zero the scope and never touch the knobs again, so they dont want target / tactical knobs. With a 200 yd zero most rifles will kill anything from up close to 300 yds just by putting the duplex in the middle of the critter or holding a little high out further. Those of us who want to hit small targets reliably at long distances have to either have a balistic reticle or tactical knobs to dial in correction. The Zeiss Rapid Z800 and Z1000 are very useful if you know how to work them and understand their limitations. Here recently we have started seeing more scopes with FFP (first focal plane) reticles where the size of the reticle is small at low power and grows in direct proportion at higher powers.
These FFP scopes are mostly Mil Mil so that one can mil dot rangefind at any power or dial correction like 3.4 mils correction by holding on the third mil dot below center and dialing only the 4 clicks rather than dialing 34 clicks. We are starting to see a few balistic reticles with FFP which will be a huge improvement over second focal plane balistic reticles. With a second focal plane balistic reticle you must realize that the marks below center only represent the known distance at one power usually the highest power. If you dial down the power you will wind up shooting over the top of the target by using the hold over marks. Zeiss actually uses a balistic calculator to help you figure out what power to set their scope on to most closely match your rifles balistics. For my 300WSM 190 SMK at 2900 fps I had to set my 4.5-14x44 scope on 10x for the Z800 reticle to be correct. lowering the power raises the point of impact at distance. In low light when you need to dial a scope down to about 6x or lower to make the image bright if you are using a high magnification variable like a 4-16 the only thing you can count on is the center X with a second focal plane balistic reticle. With a first focal plane balistic reticle or mil dot based reticle you can use the marks for known hold over at any power. The newest stuff out there is digital and not much of that is available to civilians yet but its coming just like digital cameras blew film cameras away.

I went through this over the last week also. I had a great Leupold black ring Vari-X III that I planned on using until a friend offered me something I couldn't refuse. I have never been a precision guy, and don't have the scratch to buy a awesome scope from US Optics, Night Force, Premier, S&B etc. But I wanted something to get me going so I can save up for one of those. I decided that I wanted to start a little cheaper to figure out what my needs and wants were, but also wanted a power range that would lend itself well to distances up close, and far away. This would allow me to shoot precision out to about 1k, and be able to hunt up close. I decided on a Weaver Tactical. I figure for the price, I could try it and figure out what I want to replace it with and what features I find more important.

For $750 I got 3-15x50mm FFP EDMR (reticule) Locking turrets, illuminated, side focus, 30mm tube, mil/mil. I was looking at the SS HD 5-20, Leupold MK4 4.5-14x50 ffp, Vortex 4.5-16x50 ffp, and a few others. But I decided on the Weaver because it seemed to have the magnification range I preferred the most at a price cheaper than the rest. The scope I really want is a USO, so I figure this will get me going until I can afford a SN-3.

Optics selection seems to be the most subjective part about a rifle. There are so many to choose from, both quality and not, that it can all be dizzying. Based on my style of shooting, budget, and needs I came to the conclusion of what I wanted. Now, once I get some experience with it and i decide what I like an don't, I'll "upgrade" from there. Good luck.

Ha! I'm in no hurry, I still don't have anything to put it in. Once I get my OBR we'll get there. Good stuff coming soon man, I'll fill you in later.

I love mine. For the money it is awefully hard to beat! Mine has the Tremor2 reticle in it. Some think it's too busy, but it works great for me.