ARCHIVED
 jevonniespapi
Member
Team Member
Joined: Oct 2006  TX, USA
 Posts: 893 Feedback: 100% (8) |
Posted: 2/16/2012 8:30:38 PM
Been shooting in the rain lately, and want to give the rifle a good cleaning. Should I just go allen key happy?
|
|
|
|
TheWenisPrinkle
Warning I may be off my meds.
Team Member
Joined: Nov 2009 KY, USA
Posts: 2624 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post |
Posted: 2/16/2012 10:08:11 PM
I have been wanting to do the same. I would like to know if it's GTG.
Keep em good and oiled after rain. The allen bolts that hold the handguard will rust quickly.  Jeez what a dumbass.  |
|
|
USMC2147
Member
Team Member
Joined: Jan 2010 IL, USA
Posts: 280 Feedback: 100% (1) Link To This Post |
Posted: 2/17/2012 8:43:14 AM
Originally Posted By TheWenisPrinkle:
I have been wanting to do the same. I would like to know if it's GTG. Keep em good and oiled after rain. The allen bolts that hold the handguard will rust quickly. Jeez what a dumbass. I hope you are just yanking his chain? I shoot in all kinds of weather. Why? You don't get to pick the weather if something were to ever happen, and you needed to shoot out in the weather. Are you a fairweather shooter? I'm pretty sure LaRue built these to withstand all kinds weather conditions, as they do make the finest products around. |
|
|
jevonniespapi
Member
Team Member
Joined: Oct 2006 TX, USA
Posts: 894 Feedback: 100% (8) Link To This Post |
Posted: 2/17/2012 9:24:40 AM
Originally Posted By USMC2147:
Originally Posted By TheWenisPrinkle:
I have been wanting to do the same. I would like to know if it's GTG. Keep em good and oiled after rain. The allen bolts that hold the handguard will rust quickly. Jeez what a dumbass. I hope you are just yanking his chain? I shoot in all kinds of weather. Why? You don't get to pick the weather if something were to ever happen, and you needed to shoot out in the weather. Are you a fairweather shooter? I'm pretty sure LaRue built these to withstand all kinds weather conditions, as they do make the finest products around. Sooooo....... can i take this thing apart or.........? |
|
|
|
USMC2147
Member
Team Member
Joined: Jan 2010 IL, USA
Posts: 282 Feedback: 100% (1) Link To This Post |
Posted: 2/17/2012 9:31:36 AM
Originally Posted By jevonniespapi:
Originally Posted By USMC2147:
Originally Posted By TheWenisPrinkle:
I have been wanting to do the same. I would like to know if it's GTG. Keep em good and oiled after rain. The allen bolts that hold the handguard will rust quickly. Jeez what a dumbass. I hope you are just yanking his chain? I shoot in all kinds of weather. Why? You don't get to pick the weather if something were to ever happen, and you needed to shoot out in the weather. Are you a fairweather shooter? I'm pretty sure LaRue built these to withstand all kinds weather conditions, as they do make the finest products around. Sooooo....... can i take this thing apart or.........? If I had an OBR I would be able to help you out. Call LaRue and see what they advise. Also get the torque spec for those screws, too loose and they will fall out, too tight and you strip or gall the threads. |
|
|
jdhill
Regular Guy
Team Member
Joined: Jun 2009 WA, USA
Posts: 1757 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post |
Posted: 2/17/2012 9:50:23 AM
We're talking about an OBR (either 556 or 762), not a predatAR right? IIRC, the monolithic upper rail is chemically bonded to the handguard and upper receiver... mess with it at your own risk.
|
|
|
Combat_Jack
Green Suited Salaryman
Team Member
Joined: Dec 2001 USA
Posts: 62942 Feedback: 100% (13) Link To This Post |
Posted: 2/17/2012 11:42:11 AM
The rail is removable, or you couldn't change the barrel or gas tube.
|
|
|
jevonniespapi
Member
Team Member
Joined: Oct 2006 TX, USA
Posts: 895 Feedback: 100% (8) Link To This Post |
Posted: 2/17/2012 8:50:52 PM
Originally Posted By jdhill:
We're talking about an OBR (either 556 or 762), not a predatAR right? IIRC, the monolithic upper rail is chemically bonded to the handguard and upper receiver... mess with it at your own risk. yep, OBR 556. I dont call, cuz they are probably busy as heck. Plus I keep running around trying to remember to do this and that all day, that I keep forgetting. Oh well, Maybe Ill remember on Monday! |
|
|
|
TheWenisPrinkle
Warning I may be off my meds.
Team Member
Joined: Nov 2009 KY, USA
Posts: 2627 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post |
Posted: 2/18/2012 8:49:55 AM
Originally Posted By USMC2147:
Originally Posted By TheWenisPrinkle:
I have been wanting to do the same. I would like to know if it's GTG. Keep em good and oiled after rain. The allen bolts that hold the handguard will rust quickly. Jeez what a dumbass. I hope you are just yanking his chain? I shoot in all kinds of weather. Why? You don't get to pick the weather if something were to ever happen, and you needed to shoot out in the weather. Are you a fairweather shooter? I'm pretty sure LaRue built these to withstand all kinds weather conditions, as they do make the finest products around. First thing after rereading my previous post I want to clarify. I was not calling the OP a dumbass, the dumbass was me for not cleaning it faster. But I am not pulling his chain. Last year I participated in a 4 day event. The weather was cold as hell and misted all four days. At the end of each long day I would haul me and my OBR back to the warm hotel. Where I would wipe it down as best I could. After the four days in the cold mist and four nights in a warm hotel plus the three hour drive home in the case, the Allen bolts that attach the hand guard had started to rust. When I noticed it it was removed as best I could but the effects can still be seen. I to would like to hear a reply from someone a LaRue before I take a wrench to it. I am guessing it would be ok but would like to hear it from the man who made it. |
|
|
jdhill
Regular Guy
Team Member
Joined: Jun 2009 WA, USA
Posts: 1760 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post |
Posted: 2/18/2012 9:19:01 AM
[Last Edit: 2/18/2012 9:20:25 AM by jdhill]
Originally Posted By Combat_Jack: The rail is removable, or you couldn't change the barrel or gas tube. I think this is depot level work on an OBR... otherwise you would see all kinds of different calibers running around, and you just don't (I've heard of one) ETA: special barrel wrench is used for monolithics... |
|
|
TheWenisPrinkle
Warning I may be off my meds.
Team Member
Joined: Nov 2009 KY, USA
Posts: 2628 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post |
Posted: 2/18/2012 9:22:08 AM
Originally Posted By jdhill:
Originally Posted By Combat_Jack:
The rail is removable, or you couldn't change the barrel or gas tube. I think this is depot level work on an OBR... otherwise you would see all kinds of different calibers running around, and you just don't (I've heard of one) ETA: special barrel wrench is used for monolithics... I have seen a couple that have been rebarelled. There is one in .260 on SH for sale now. |
|
|
jevonniespapi
Member
Team Member
Joined: Oct 2006 TX, USA
Posts: 896 Feedback: 100% (8) Link To This Post |
Posted: 2/18/2012 5:01:16 PM
I hate having tools sometimes.... Cuz sometimes i use them for the "intended" better good- yet often fail!!!
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: 2/18/2012 6:00:41 PM
Based on what I found whilst looking at my 5.56 OBR, there are allen screws..dimpled (I think it's called "staked")...on the inside top of the receiver that appear to fasten the part of the monolithic rail to the top receiver. It looks like with those screws removed, the top rail and handguard could be removed.
As to the chemically bonded aspect of the rail to the receiver/handguard...I don't know, but I'd guess there needs to be some level of disassembly allowed with the rifle without a blowtorch. The handguard/top-rail portion...yeah, that could be bonded (I cannot see any evidence of that), but I'd see no need to put those staked screws AND adhesive on the to ppart of the upper. But then again some people like to wear belts and suspenders at the same time... |
|
|
|
TheWenisPrinkle
Warning I may be off my meds.
Team Member
Joined: Nov 2009 KY, USA
Posts: 2634 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post |
Posted: 2/21/2012 12:23:35 PM
Can we get someone from Larue to comment on this?
Can we remove to clean and oil? If so what are the torque specs for reattachment? Do it / Don't do it? Help please. |
|
|
Harley1
LARUEMINATI
Team Member
Joined: Oct 2009 USA
Posts: 1132 Feedback: 100% (11) Link To This Post |
Posted: 2/21/2012 1:21:56 PM
Call the shop and ask..
|
|
|
TheWenisPrinkle
Warning I may be off my meds.
Team Member
Joined: Nov 2009 KY, USA
Posts: 2635 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post |
Posted: 2/21/2012 3:02:07 PM
Originally Posted By Harley1:
Call the shop and ask.. If I don't get a reply I will. I was hoping to get a quick answer for everyone. So we don't all has to call.  |
|
|
smithc6
Arfcom will not bow to sewing terrorists! ~Aimless
Team Member
Joined: Aug 2008 OR, USA
Posts: 4224 Feedback: 100% (28) Link To This Post |
Posted: 2/21/2012 3:11:15 PM
Originally Posted By TheWenisPrinkle:
Originally Posted By Harley1:
Call the shop and ask.. If I don't get a reply I will. I was hoping to get a quick answer for everyone. So we don't all has to call. Yeah. Where the heck has MF been?!  |
|
|
DFDFF
Team Member
Team Member
Joined: Nov 2009 IL, USA
Posts: 557 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post |
Posted: 2/21/2012 3:41:48 PM
[Last Edit: 2/21/2012 3:42:34 PM by DFDFF]
Yeah. Where the heck has MF been?!
This |
|
|
|
Titleist1
Eat Brains, Gain Knowledge
Team Member
Joined: Jan 2006 OR, USA
Posts: 2344 Feedback: 100% (37) Link To This Post |
Posted: 2/21/2012 8:53:52 PM
Because no one was man enough to take theirs off.
Actually I had to take it off as I was seeing some surface rust on the barrel. I will do better photos tonight when I can get the gun into the studio. |
|
|
|
smithc6
Arfcom will not bow to sewing terrorists! ~Aimless
Team Member
Joined: Aug 2008 OR, USA
Posts: 4228 Feedback: 100% (28) Link To This Post |
Posted: 2/21/2012 8:58:06 PM
Originally Posted By Titleist1:
Because no one was man enough to take theirs off.
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/403353_10150792901279186_503914185_12137423_410514877_n.jpg Actually I had to take it off as I was seeing some surface rust on the barrel. I will do better photos tonight when I can get the gun into the studio. Sweet dog!  |
|
|
Harley1
LARUEMINATI
Team Member
Joined: Oct 2009 USA
Posts: 1134 Feedback: 100% (11) Link To This Post |
Posted: 2/21/2012 9:02:59 PM
Originally Posted By Titleist1:
Because no one was man enough to take theirs off.
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/403353_10150792901279186_503914185_12137423_410514877_n.jpg Actually I had to take it off as I was seeing some surface rust on the barrel. I will do better photos tonight when I can get the gun into the studio. Your crazy..  |
|
|
Titleist1
Eat Brains, Gain Knowledge
Team Member
Joined: Jan 2006 OR, USA
Posts: 2345 Feedback: 100% (37) Link To This Post |
Posted: 2/21/2012 9:07:38 PM
I'll do photos in a little bit.
|
|
|
|
Kujoe
Can you run faster than 1200 feet per second
Team Member
Joined: Mar 2006 MO, USA
Posts: 3375 Feedback: 100% (9) Link To This Post |
Posted: 2/21/2012 9:15:16 PM
[Last Edit: 2/22/2012 3:44:01 AM by Kujoe]
It's kind of like dividing by zero... Issac may not be around much longer
 |
|
|
Randall_1611
Patron NRA
Team Member
Joined: Sep 2008 WY, USA
Posts: 1071 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post |
Posted: 2/21/2012 10:00:28 PM
Originally Posted By Titleist1:
Because no one was man enough to take theirs off.
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/403353_10150792901279186_503914185_12137423_410514877_n.jpg Actually I had to take it off as I was seeing some surface rust on the barrel. I will do better photos tonight when I can get the gun into the studio. Nice picture. You forgot the rail! LOL Was the "rust" just surface color on the black stainless finish. If all else fails the "guarantee" will put it back together again.
|
|
|
Titleist1
Eat Brains, Gain Knowledge
Team Member
Joined: Jan 2006 OR, USA
Posts: 2346 Feedback: 100% (37) Link To This Post |
Posted: 2/21/2012 10:03:12 PM
To remove the rail means removing the screws on the inside of the upper. I didn't need to go that far.
|
|
|
|
Jwood562
1,000,000th Member !
Team Member
Joined: Jan 2009 USA
Posts: 1218 Feedback: 100% (63) Link To This Post |
Posted: 2/21/2012 10:24:54 PM
Originally Posted By Titleist1:
Because no one was man enough to take theirs off.
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/403353_10150792901279186_503914185_12137423_410514877_n.jpg Actually I had to take it off as I was seeing some surface rust on the barrel. I will do better photos tonight when I can get the gun into the studio. STOP! Holy crap! Your dog is almost out of dog food in his bowl! :) |
|
ARCHIVED
