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Posted: 3/4/2009 5:48:36 PM
[Last Edit: 7/18/2011 12:12:28 AM by LaRue_Tactical]
Well, some folks are telling me it's time to put some gun-shop rumors to bed from across the fruited plains...
With all the hype about repeat-zero QD mounts, some being fantastic devices with space shuttle-like complexity and mysterious marvels of machinery (with fly-away springs), we'd like to share the following T&E document produced at .mil request. Special note - notice how well that 4X ACOG performs at 100 meters ... not bad. 
BTW, speaking of "tests" we anticipate some raised eyebrows over our forthcoming salt-fog tests. Ouch. But then again, it IS 2009 ... 
Before looking over the test, be advised, what you are looking at is the trigger-puller putting on the ACOG, getting down on the rifle, shooting one round at 100 meters, then getting back up (thus losing his cheekweld), then taking the ACOG off, then putting the ACOG back on, then getting back down on the rifle and shooting another round of one. Then repeating this procedure thirty (30) times in a row. So what you see ... is the scope went off and on for each of all thirty (30) shots. 
We have run 600 round torture tests here at our on-site range ... with the last 3-shot group being 3/8" ... but that was with a bit more magnification. 
Note sigline. 
ETA - I forgot to mention a .mil-run test, (with the guys utilizing some laser gizmos) that ascertained that our mount was going back on zero within .084 moa - the equivalent of being less than 3/32 of an inch off at at 100 ... that seems to agree with this test whereas the shooter reckoned he was within .10". ETA - 2 ... There is some confusion related to the sequence fo the test. The far right target was shot while aiming dead center of the diamond ... Both the far left and middle target were shot aiming at the 3 o'clock point of the diamond. Aiming point is denoted with double green circles. 
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Posted: 3/4/2009 6:03:18 PM
Originally Posted By LaRue_Tactical:
Well, some folks are telling me it's time to put some gun-shop rumors to bed from across the fruited plains...
With all the hype about repeat-zero QD mounts, some being fantastic devices with shuttle-like complexity and mysterious marvels of machinery (with fly-away springs), we'd like to share the following T&E document produced at .mil request. Special note - notice how well that 4X ACOG performs at 100 meters ... not bad.
BTW, speaking of "tests" we anticipate some raised eyebrows over our forthcoming salt-fog tests. Ouch. But then again, it IS 2009 ...
Before looking over the test, be advised, what you are looking at is the trigger-puller putting on the ACOG, getting down on the rifle, shooting one round at 100 meters, then getting back up (thus losing his cheekweld), then taking the ACOG off, then putting the ACOG back on, then getting back down on the rifle and shooting another round of one. Then repeating this procedure thirty (30) times in a row. So what you see ... is the scope went off and on for each of all thirty (30) shots. http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y44/mfingar/LaRue_Tactical/Accuracy_1st_TE_Pg-1.jpg http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y44/mfingar/LaRue_Tactical/Accuracy_1st_TE_Pg-2.jpg http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y44/mfingar/LaRue_Tactical/Accuracy_1st_TE_Pg-3.jpg http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y44/mfingar/LaRue_Tactical/Accuracy_1st_TE_Pg-4.jpg http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y44/mfingar/LaRue_Tactical/Accuracy_1st_TE_Pg-5.jpg We have run 600 round torture tests here at our on-site range ... with the last 3-shot group being 3/8" ... but that was with a bit more magnification.
Look.... I know that this guy says it's great and all but you know...I'm the kinda guy that likes to see the results for myself...Soooooooo why don't ya just send me one of your OSR's and whatever piece of glass you want me to try and I'll let you know what I think OK... Thanks HOLY SHIT....those are pretty damn impressive results! Looks like I'm gonna have to spend more money with you when I'm ready for some glass and mounts! Like I wasn't planning on it already. Oh and FIRST! |
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deadboi77
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Posted: 3/4/2009 6:07:50 PM
that is pretty damm impressive.another reason why i`ll only buy larue mounts.not that i need another reason
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jakjakman
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Posted: 3/4/2009 6:13:20 PM
^^^ That's why all of my mounts are made in the dead center of Texas.
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Posted: 3/4/2009 7:15:44 PM
Good review! When can we expect the report on the SF suppressor. Given that the Surgeon is a sub 1/2 MOA shooter, I'm anxious to see what impact the 338 has, if any.
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vermont2nd
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Posted: 3/4/2009 7:16:15 PM
[Last Edit: 3/4/2009 7:17:26 PM by vermont2nd]
Originally Posted By LaRue_Tactical:
I forgot to mention a .mil-run test, (with the guys utilizing some laser gizmos) that ascertained that our mount was going back on zero within .084 moa - the equivalent of being less than 3/32 of an inch off at at 100 ... that seems to agree with this test whereas the shooter reckoned he was within .10". |
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dHUTCH
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Posted: 3/4/2009 7:38:25 PM
I took my ACOG and LT QD mount to the range today.......removed it atleast 3 or 4 times and it always went back to what I consider to be well beyond an acceptable re-zero.
On another note.....God I'm piss ass tired from playing with my AR today.....spent 3 hours at the range and probably shot upwards of 500rds. |
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nicholsmf
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Posted: 3/4/2009 8:05:44 PM
[Last Edit: 3/4/2009 8:38:10 PM by nicholsmf]
Originally Posted By LaRue_Tactical:
SNIP our mount was going back on zero within .084 moa - the equivalent of being less than 3/32 of an inch off at at 100 SNIP It makes me feel comfortable knowing that my optics are all mounted with LaRue mounts............mounts that are more repeatable than I am Thanks again Mark for putting out quality gear we can count on ETA: With exception of my Eotech 553 and it is getting replaced once I rotate back to the states |
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Posted: 3/4/2009 8:19:41 PM
You can't argue with that. Maybe all patent challengers should have to prove they can outperform you.
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chapperjoe
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Posted: 3/4/2009 8:27:54 PM
so "repeat zero" really means "REPEAT ZERO"
that is confidence inspiring to say the least! |
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Posted: 3/4/2009 8:35:22 PM
Hey! Mark & crew ... only one thing I can see wrong with this test.
You did not make it a STICKY!!! |
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stretch415
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Posted: 3/4/2009 9:10:45 PM
very cool. No reason to ever buy anyone else IMO
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Posted: 3/4/2009 9:27:48 PM
[Last Edit: 3/4/2009 9:31:02 PM by SnakeEyes]
Buy quality, buy once. LT = Quality products and service. Can't wait for the M4S to arrive.
eta: M4S with LaRue Tactical QD Mount that is, which happens to Repeat zero. |
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EFB16ACRX
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Posted: 3/4/2009 9:50:30 PM
The answer to your question is yes, you are repeating yourselves.
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Posted: 3/4/2009 10:04:46 PM
Badass makes me glad I've invested so much in the gear from your company Mark.
Now...whats the length on the barrel on that rifle :) |
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Posted: 3/4/2009 10:17:52 PM
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Posted: 3/4/2009 10:19:22 PM
that mean the Marine Corps is looking to use 'em?
my mount went on two deployments- even has armory markings since I left it on between trips :) I know it works 
-Roth |
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Posted: 3/5/2009 5:43:21 AM
I just hope that if you do get a .mil contract, you build whole seperate warehouse for that production. I know it sounds selfish but dammit its nice calling and getting stuff you need normally within a week
Congrats Mark and Team LaRue |
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LaRue_Tactical
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Posted: 3/5/2009 6:24:01 AM
[Last Edit: 3/5/2009 6:29:05 AM by LaRue_Tactical]
Originally Posted By SwatDawg15:
I just hope that if you do get a .mil contract, you build whole seperate warehouse for that production. I know it sounds selfish but dammit its nice calling and getting stuff you need normally within a week
Congrats Mark and Team LaRue Heads-up - a large part of our work is .mil. .... and we've being shipping direct to .mil addresses (starting with our auto-steel sniper targets) since back in the early 90s.
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dHUTCH
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Posted: 3/5/2009 6:49:50 AM
Originally Posted By LaRue_Tactical:
Originally Posted By SwatDawg15:
I just hope that if you do get a .mil contract, you build whole seperate warehouse for that production. I know it sounds selfish but dammit its nice calling and getting stuff you need normally within a week
Congrats Mark and Team LaRue Heads-up - a large part of our work is .mil. .... and we've being shipping direct to .mil addresses (starting with our auto-steel sniper targets) since back in the early 90s.
Nice to see you up so bright and early this morning Mark. Psst.........we know you make all da big bucks with the government contracts.  |
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vermont2nd
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Posted: 3/5/2009 9:00:57 AM
Originally Posted By dHUTCH:
Originally Posted By LaRue_Tactical:
Originally Posted By SwatDawg15:
I just hope that if you do get a .mil contract, you build whole seperate warehouse for that production. I know it sounds selfish but dammit its nice calling and getting stuff you need normally within a week
Congrats Mark and Team LaRue Heads-up - a large part of our work is .mil. .... and we've being shipping direct to .mil addresses (starting with our auto-steel sniper targets) since back in the early 90s.
Nice to see you up so bright and early this morning Mark. Psst.........we know you make all da big bucks with the government contracts. And the fact that you show such respect for us little guys, is what will make us customers for life. Here's to your continuing success! |
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Posted: 3/5/2009 9:39:37 AM
Wow, just wow. The $30 mount I put on a friend's AimPoint was off by more than 4" to the left at 25 yards after removing it and reattaching it a couple of inches farther away from the stock. After moving it back, it was then centered left to right again but shooting almost a foot(!) too low. I wasted about two hours and around $50 in ammo trying to get it zeroed. I'm sending him a link to this thread and a request to buy a better mount. I don't ever want to screw around with a crappy mount again.z
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FJC
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Posted: 3/5/2009 10:04:32 AM
Very impressive! LaRue mounts certainly seem to be the way to go. Buy once, cry once!
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Posted: 3/5/2009 10:05:49 AM
Originally Posted By zoom:
Wow, just wow. The $30 mount I put on a friend's AimPoint was off by more than 4" to the left at 25 yards after removing it and reattaching it a couple of inches farther away from the stock. After moving it back, it was then centered left to right again but shooting almost a foot(!) too low. I wasted about two hours and around $50 in ammo trying to get it zeroed. I'm sending him a link to this thread and a request to buy a better mount. I don't ever want to screw around with a crappy mount again.z Z,  Damn it, I can't take it, just give me his name and address and a mount is on it's way.
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Skartissue
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Posted: 3/5/2009 10:21:58 AM
Originally Posted By LaRue_Tactical:
Z, Damn it, I can't take it, just give me his name and address and a mount is on it's way.
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Posted: 3/5/2009 10:27:33 AM
Originally Posted By Skartissue:
Originally Posted By LaRue_Tactical:
Z, Damn it, I can't take it, just give me his name and address and a mount is on it's way.
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