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Thermal/Clip-on cherry question - will these work in front of a magnified optic?
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How do these units compare to the new FLIR dedicated weapon scopes?
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Pre-Orders now being taken for the IR Patrol. For folks who want the Kit versions., we will be selling separate Wilcox kits in February when these release. Anyone who does pre-order the IR Patrol , we will offer you special discounts on the Wilcox parts when they release.
We're very anxious to offer these units. I do not get impressed too often, but these are one of those times with the new IR Patrol. IR Patrol LE100 IR Patrol M250 IR Parol M300W Vic |
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Is there any reason the M300W cannot be helmet mounted? Likewise, this model indicates an image capture capability, yet isn't supplied with the cable. Is the accessory cable available and at what cost? If one is going to choose the highest grade model, I should think it would be useful to purchase every available accessory (to allow, handheld, helmet, and weapon-mounted use).
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There will be a kitt M300K that we will offer that will have ALL the accessories as well. We are still finalizing pricing for the component level gear we will post up right after Shot. Thanks N!
Vic |
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Right now the unit is still rated for .308, but the flip to the side mount is still undergoing testing above 5.56 to see if it will hold zero while the IR Patrol is weapon mounted.
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We are told from IRD the M250's will be shipping to us next week, and the LE100's a week or 2 later. The M300 will ship by end of May.
Thanks for all the orders guys, we think you will really like the new Patrols! Vic |
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I am looking into the M250. I am curious what the kit options include. The kit states "+Wilcox helmet mount inter." Is that just the dovetail mount that screws to the monocular?
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Gentlemen,
Just got word from IRD that several of the M250's have started to ship to us. Those who have pre-ordered (thank you), as soon as we get these we will begin to ship to the pre-orders in the order they were received. We think you're going to be very happy with these! Thank you! Vic |
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IR Patrol M250's have arrived and shipping to customers. LE100's will be arriving next week and M300's at months end. Thanks guys.
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Quoted: IR Patrol M250's have arrived and shipping to customers. LE100's will be arriving next week and M300's at months end. Thanks guys. Vic View Quote Will you be offering Wilcox Flip Base rifle mounts separately for the M300 and, if so, at what expected price point? Didn't see them on the TNVC website. Is there a lockable hard case available for the unit sized and cut to carry all the accessories? The soft case is acceptable for field usage, but nothing beats a hard case for storage, transport, and keeping hands off. Any word on the battery compartment extender? What are the specifics of the external magnifier shown in the image, above? |
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Quoted: Will you be offering Wilcox Flip Base rifle mounts separately for the M300 and, if so, at what expected price point? Didn't see them on the TNVC website. Is there a lockable hard case available for the unit sized and cut to carry all the accessories? The soft case is acceptable for field usage, but nothing beats a hard case for storage, transport, and keeping hands off. Any word on the battery compartment extender? What are the specifics of the external magnifier shown in the image, above? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: IR Patrol M250's have arrived and shipping to customers. LE100's will be arriving next week and M300's at months end. Thanks guys. Vic Will you be offering Wilcox Flip Base rifle mounts separately for the M300 and, if so, at what expected price point? Didn't see them on the TNVC website. Is there a lockable hard case available for the unit sized and cut to carry all the accessories? The soft case is acceptable for field usage, but nothing beats a hard case for storage, transport, and keeping hands off. Any word on the battery compartment extender? What are the specifics of the external magnifier shown in the image, above? Pelican makes several sizes of cases that can fit your needs. You can get pluck foam and make it your way. There are also many other great companies that make hard cases. The battery compartment extenders are available here. With thermals you can only magnify at the lens to get true magnification without clarity loss or pixelation (as opposed to digital), these attachable lenses afford you 2x or 3x, depending on which one you get. IR patrol with the 19mm lens is a 1x, with the 2x magnifier you have a true 2x magnification at the lens as your base magnification. When you use your electronic zoom in conjunction with the attached magnifier you see further, without as much pixelation. With the 3x magnifier same applies, but you have 3x as your base magnification. The lenses are made of germanium. |
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Also, the 2x and 3x IR Patrol magnifiers will be on our web site soon.
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View Quote Select the "no adapter" version? |
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Quoted: Select the "no adapter" version? |
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Also, the 2x and 3x IR Patrol magnifiers will be on our web site soon. View Quote Wait a second, I thought I was following all this pretty close, but this is the first I'm hearing about this. With the new IR Patrol, there is going to be the option to add external magnifiers to the scope? If that is the case, that makes the advantages of the MKII much less. I was just about ready to pull the trigger on the MKII, but the extended range of the Patrol with a magnifier really closes the gap in my decision. Confused as usual... |
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I guess I wish we had some pics comparing the Patrol with 2x / 3x vs MKII. Same conditions same target.
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Wait a second, I thought I was following all this pretty close, but this is the first I'm hearing about this. With the new IR Patrol, there is going to be the option to add external magnifiers to the scope? If that is the case, that makes the advantages of the MKII much less. I was just about ready to pull the trigger on the MKII, but the extended range of the Patrol with a magnifier really closes the gap in my decision. Confused as usual... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Also, the 2x and 3x IR Patrol magnifiers will be on our web site soon. Wait a second, I thought I was following all this pretty close, but this is the first I'm hearing about this. With the new IR Patrol, there is going to be the option to add external magnifiers to the scope? If that is the case, that makes the advantages of the MKII much less. I was just about ready to pull the trigger on the MKII, but the extended range of the Patrol with a magnifier really closes the gap in my decision. Confused as usual... Yes, there are 2x and 3x adapters for the IR Patrols as well. I'll see what we can do about getting more pics between the two. Vic |
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Thanks Vic.
My thought is with the addition of the magnifying lenses the gap seems closed between the MKII and Patrol with regards to range usefulness. So the versatility of the Patrol really seems too good to pass up. Only downside is, I was only a couple of hundred bucks away from affording the MKII, but the Patrol is going to end up being $1k + more. But it's starting to seem like a no brainer to me... I just need to get this purchase correct. |
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Thanks Vic. My thought is with the addition of the magnifying lenses the gap seems closed between the MKII and Patrol with regards to range usefulness. So the versatility of the Patrol really seems too good to pass up. Only downside is, I was only a couple of hundred bucks away from affording the MKII, but the Patrol is going to end up being $1k + more. But it's starting to seem like a no brainer to me... I just need to get this purchase correct. View Quote Your welcome and I understand completely. Take your time on this to insure you get what you need for your requirements. Vic |
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Just got some great info I had not heard or been advised of previously.
I sent an email to IR Defense asking for some clarification on the use of the Patrol with either the 2x or 3x magnifier lens. Here's an important email I just got back. And it was an extremely quick response, on a holiday weekend none-the-less which is appreciated: <<You can not magnify the IR patrol for use with a weapon, only hand held use is supported. It will NEVER Handel recoil the magnifier is pressure fit. The magnifier would crack with recoil. My suggestion for shots past 150 yards is to only look at the IRH MKII -35mm. Sincerely, David Rhomberg VP, Sales & Marketing>> Was hoping to be able to use the Patrol weapon mounted with the magnifier, and getting extended range usage when needed. And without the magnifier when FOV was more important. Guess that's not going to be feasible. Just an FYI, I don't think I was the only one thinking in this direction. |
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That is correct. Never advisable to shoot with a clamped on magnification extender.
Vic |
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We have posted the new Wilcox Skeeter bridge. This outstanding dovetail mount is a great way to mount your new IR Patrol!
We have packaged these with our IR Patrols and if you order the mount with the M250 or the M300, you can save a few pennies on them. See the pull down menu on on our web site. M250 M300 If you want to order the stand alone Wilcox bridge mount, you can see them here. http://tnvc.com/shop/wilcox-binocular-bridge-system-skeetir-ir-patrol/ |
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Several folks have asked about our new recording device package kits for your thermal gear. We are releasing special cables for the FLIR RS line along with IR Defense MKII's and IR Patrol's, while our TNVC/DVR and Rifle/Helmet pouch will work with just about any setup. I posted this below on another blog which I thought was important to share here. Thanks guys.
The TNVC/DVR's are done with special noise amp mics we installed that we just now completed. Also the FINAL iteration of the rifle/helmet pouch is now complete and at the sew shop getting sewn up!. I know....It's been a loooong work effort on the pouch, (January at Shot Show). We do feel you and others in the community will really appreciate what we did here once you all get a peek at it. We had several folks pour over beta testing 4 to 5 iterations of the pouch to insure we covered all bases. While some may say "it's just a pouch with some straps to hold it on"...We see that from some of the current recorder pouches made in China with no thought into how to correctly rifle and helmet mount (for IR Patrols), and manipulate them while employing a weapon or helmet. You can be assured this truly Made in America (San Diego Ca to be exact) TNVC/DVR Rifle/Pouch we be ultra versatile and function well. Mind you our cables (Rt. Angle Fischer, Mil Spec banded and filtered to eliminate horizontal noise), DVR and pouch will surprise many in the cost department as well. We do not believe folks need to pay upwards of $200 just for a cable! You will save a big bundle with our newest kit offering while we hope enjoying a well engineered package to supplement your thermal gear . Vic |
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New to the forum and hope this is the correct place for my question. If not, just let me know and I can post it elsewhere.
After MANY months of waiting, I finally received my IR patrol M300W and was having some issues last night while getting to know it and hope some of ya'll can help... I am trying to use it on a 6.8 SPC AR that I have a Vortex 1-4 day scope mounted to My plan is/was to use the Patrol as a handheld to locate hogs/coyotes, etc and then clip it in front of my Vortex 1-4 when it comes time to shoot. However, when I put it in front of my day scope, then switch the Patrol to "clip-on mode" and change the Vortex mag to 2-4, the resulting is very blurry. I've tried adjusting the Patrol's front objective focus ring, the ocular focus ring, the ocular focus on the Vortex.... nothing clears the image up enough that I would feel comfortable taking a shot. Am I doing something wrong? The above configuration would be my ideal set up. However, this may be a blessing in disguise, because as I understand it now, to use the Patrol as a clip on, it has to be switched over to "clip on mode" So, if I am scanning hand held with it, locate my quarry, clip it onto the rifle, go through the menus to change to clip on mode, refocus everything, I dont see how that is going to work with a fast moving target. My second option will be to just put my day scope in a QD mount and just use the patrol as a stand alone weapon sight, using the "reticle" mode. That way I should be able to use the Patrol as a monocular, then clip it in and be good to go, no? Any issues with this plan I should be on the lookout for? Will the patrol hold it's zero using it in this fashion? Hope my question makes sense. I was really hoping that it would work in front of my 1-4, but unless I am doing something wrong, I am going to have to go with plan B, or just return it and go with the Hunter MK II... or the new MK III looks very nice! lol Thanks for the help! |
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Hi, first off welcome to the ARFCOM! Always like to see 1st posters on our forum.
Sending you a PM on your day scope. Yes no issues using the unit as a stand alone weapon mount from hand held to that configuration with no loss of zero as long as the Patrol is mounted on the same rail slot when you first zeroed. Vic |
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