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How about a ball park price on this? View Quote MSRP $129.95. https://www.magpul.com/products/pmag%C2%AE-d-60-ar-m4 |
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Really? I've used USGI 30rd mags quite successfully with 220gr subs. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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USGI mags don't work at all. Really? I've used USGI 30rd mags quite successfully with 220gr subs. I hope you are going to tell me you upgraded the springs and followers because my experience has been that 30 round USGI mags are very unreliable when loaded with more than 18 rounds of 220 sub. |
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Really hoping that a month after release, prices on these will drop below MSRP. For $100, I think I'd buy one and then 2-3 more for my other rifles if I like it. At $130 though...
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Can the spring pressure be released on a fully loaded drum (like a Chinese AK drum)?
If not, are there any issues keeping it fully wound over an extended period of time (a year)? |
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Can the spring pressure be released on a fully loaded drum (like a Chinese AK drum)? If not, are there any issues keeping it fully wound over an extended period of time (a year)? View Quote It uses a flat wound coil spring like in a clock, so it can be be kept wound for long periods of time without issue. |
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Soooo do these work on a M249? Like the new semiautomatic one that got announced?
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On that short youtube video, I think you get a snippet of a SAW shooting with one.
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I really doubt it. The SAW is so much better when firing a belt it's not close. I think they are probably after the M27. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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On that short youtube video, I think you get a snippet of a SAW shooting with one. Makes me wonder if Magpul got an early heads up from FN. I really doubt it. The SAW is so much better when firing a belt it's not close. I think they are probably after the M27. Oh, I 100% agree on the M27 being the main goal. But I just hinted at the SAW after FN announced this weekend at the NRA show they're selling a semiautomatic version of the M249 lol. |
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Any idea when these will ship? Midway has been showing "Overdue" since 4/20. I'm pullin extra shifts at the part time jobs to save up for these.......and all the rest of the new releases
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Has anyone heard of a release date on these? I got a 25 year $150 gift certificate from my company. The certificate said "not to be used for guns..." but, I could use it to buy a gift certificate from BassPro, which means I can use it to buy a D60 once they become available. The Magpul site says summer 2015 but I hope that is EARLY summer. Never a big fan of drum mags because I've heard so much about jamming issues, but this seems like a decent product and I've never had an issue with a Magpul magazine.. I just want to get one before Hillary bans anything above 5 rounds.
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Looking forward to getting 2 right off the bat. My Form 1 for my Honey Badger clone should be approved soon. Came into an NEA CCS system at Christmas and a few of these mags would be the cats ass for it.
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So uh...where's this thing at?
I got money. I don't got no drum. |
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Yep... I've got money for a few of these dedicated and waiting. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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So uh...where's this thing at? I got money. I don't got no drum. Yep... I've got money for a few of these dedicated and waiting. I did that, spent it on other shit, saved again, spent again. saving for third time now |
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Yesterday Cabela’s estimated ship date was 1-2 weeks. Today they changed it to 14-15 weeks. :( :( :(
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IIRC, the PMAG40 took forever to hit the streets and was way after the original est date.
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Magpul's own site had previously said Summer 2015(IIRC), it now says Fall 2015 :/
https://www.magpul.com/products/pmag%C2%AE-d-60-ar-m4 |
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I want 1 or 3 now but at least I know when they release them they will work and in the end that's worth waiting for.
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I did that, spent it on other shit, saved again, spent again. saving for third time now View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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So uh...where's this thing at? I got money. I don't got no drum. Yep... I've got money for a few of these dedicated and waiting. I did that, spent it on other shit, saved again, spent again. saving for third time now Me too... I've never felt more like Fry from Futurama. Please please magpul, please take my money. |
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For crap sake, we keep waiting for these and Hillary will be well on the way to having them banned and we'll be paying $350 for them since Magpul won't be able to keep up with demand.
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Up-front caveat before the negativity starts - I'm a magpul fan. That said...
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...The PMAG D-60. Sixty rounds. Reliable, durable, lightweight, shorter than a 30 rd mag... View Quote and still non-existent more than seven months later. Quoted:
For crap sake, we keep waiting for these and Hillary will be well on the way to having them banned and we'll be paying $350 for them since Magpul won't be able to keep up with demand. View Quote Much longer and I'll be looking back into the X-Products drums. Say what we will about them, at least they exist. The D-60 demonstration video was released more than seven months ago and the thing is still pure vaporware in the actual marketplace. Even Apple isn't that bad about marketing hype and release dates. I have a lot of magpul products from magazines to slings to rail furniture, etc; and am frankly a fan of the brand. But to put out an introductory video on a product like this and still have not be in production seven months later imo shows one of three things. Either: - their marketing group is allowed to run amok unsupervised, or - their engineering group got it wrong, or - their production group can't get it right. Never had anything bad to say about magpul or any magpul product in the past, but in this case the only response that comes to mind is, "what a crock"; and it pains me to say that. |
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With all the whiney children on this site and elsewhere, I can't believe Magpul still tells people about upcoming products.
Some of the comments in this thread are just ridiculous. Lots of people bitching like they paid a pre-order to Magpul. |
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...Lots of people bitching like they paid a pre-order to Magpul. View Quote I see people hoping for a good thing and simultaneously frustrated that this particular product - that we would all love to see - is something that has been teased and baited for quite a long time not only with zero actual output, but also zero response to inquiries in the same forum where the seven-month-old announcement was made. As a business owner, if I were to publicly announce to my customers in January that we have a much-desired product available in "spring or summer" and then spend the next seven months declining to respond to status inquiries, I should expect those customers to be frustrated. Fwiw, this particular whiny child is an over-50 infantry veteran and business owner who owns (and likes) magpul products; I have more than a hundred of their 30-rounders alone. This isn't a case of "I want it now" whining, at least for me. It's a case of a long-term customer saying "I wish they'd be even a little responsive" and stating the reality that if they can't give a reason to continue to wait for their product, other product options will eventually have to be revisited. A new-product announcement, followed by seven months of silence. It's simply disappointing & frustrating. |
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I see people hoping for a good thing and simultaneously frustrated that this particular product - that we would all love to see - is something that has been teased and baited for quite a long time not only with zero actual output, but also zero response to inquiries in the same forum where the seven-month-old announcement was made. As a business owner, if I were to publicly announce to my customers in January that we have a much-desired product available in "spring or summer" and then spend the next seven months declining to respond to status inquiries, I should expect those customers to be frustrated. Fwiw, this particular whiny child is an over-50 infantry veteran and business owner who owns (and likes) magpul products; I have more than a hundred of their 30-rounders alone. This isn't a case of "I want it now" whining, at least for me. It's a case of a long-term customer saying "I wish they'd be even a little responsive" and stating the reality that if they can't give a reason to continue to wait for their product, other product options will eventually have to be revisited. A new-product announcement, followed by seven months of silence. It's simply disappointing & frustrating. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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...Lots of people bitching like they paid a pre-order to Magpul. I see people hoping for a good thing and simultaneously frustrated that this particular product - that we would all love to see - is something that has been teased and baited for quite a long time not only with zero actual output, but also zero response to inquiries in the same forum where the seven-month-old announcement was made. As a business owner, if I were to publicly announce to my customers in January that we have a much-desired product available in "spring or summer" and then spend the next seven months declining to respond to status inquiries, I should expect those customers to be frustrated. Fwiw, this particular whiny child is an over-50 infantry veteran and business owner who owns (and likes) magpul products; I have more than a hundred of their 30-rounders alone. This isn't a case of "I want it now" whining, at least for me. It's a case of a long-term customer saying "I wish they'd be even a little responsive" and stating the reality that if they can't give a reason to continue to wait for their product, other product options will eventually have to be revisited. A new-product announcement, followed by seven months of silence. It's simply disappointing & frustrating. This is a case "want it now whining". I wouldn't figure that you have some absolute need for this product in the projected release period, you simply want it in the projected release period. This isn't a car or a house, its a $100-ish product that doesn't require some serious thought about budget or allocation of funds. You just buy it when it comes out. For a long-time customer, you sure missed all the statements and reasons they didn't like giving approximations of release date for new products over the past decade or so. Now they don't even reply to because they just get tired of saying the same thing over and over again. You can't tell impatient people to be patient. It will be released when it gets released, and the impatience exhibited by people in this thread coupled with passive threats about their considerations of a company because of it is childish. |
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Quoted: With all the whiney children on this site and elsewhere, I can't believe Magpul still tells people about upcoming products. Some of the comments in this thread are just ridiculous. Lots of people bitching like they paid a pre-order to Magpul. View Quote It's coming, be patient, don't be a bitch. |
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Quoted:...you sure missed all the statements and reasons they didn't like giving approximations of release date... View Quote I must have. I saw the promotional video from the OP and no other posts from him; and also saw one comment from another mfr rep on what kind of spring it uses. This is the mfr's own thread introducing the product - where in this thread are those statements..? If I missed them, then mea culpa and I apologize. |
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Release said Spring/Summer, still Summer for another month. Just saw the new Ruger 10/22 stock, nice.
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I must have. I saw the promotional video from the OP and no other posts from him; and also saw one comment from another mfr rep on what kind of spring it uses. This is the mfr's own thread introducing the product - where in this thread are those statements..? If I missed them, then mea culpa and I apologize. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted:...you sure missed all the statements and reasons they didn't like giving approximations of release date... I must have. I saw the promotional video from the OP and no other posts from him; and also saw one comment from another mfr rep on what kind of spring it uses. This is the mfr's own thread introducing the product - where in this thread are those statements..? If I missed them, then mea culpa and I apologize. I'm talking about all the new product threads over the past decade. Its the same thing when they project a release date on something. A whole bunch of impatient people whining. |
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I mean, the Glock mags had problems, I bet when that happened they went back over everything they'd announced so they wouldn't have "rushed" (note the big ass quotes) two products out the door in one summer.
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With all the whiney children on this site and elsewhere, I can't believe Magpul still tells people about upcoming products. Some of the comments in this thread are just ridiculous. Lots of people bitching like they paid a pre-order to Magpul. View Quote I've wondered why they even put teasers out anymore. I want a few of the drums. And when they come out, I'll get 2 when I find them in stock. It's like what we used to call "the instant gratification genie" on the biggerhammer .50 board long ago. Gun owners will hear about some widget, then get pissed that they don't have it in their hands right now. After working in the firearms manufacturing field for 20 years, you realize changes have to be made, and production has to be spoiled up for that new product. Many don't realize that just because they announce a new product coming soon, it takes awhile to produce X amount of projected sales to ship. Gun owners are so fickle. |
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Sigh... I guess I'm saying it wrong. My complaint isn't about having to wait; it's regarding the ignoring of customer inquiries and absence of any follow-up info at all, for that matter; what I meant about the "zero response to inquiries in the same forum where the seven-month-old announcement was made". I totally understand that a company can't respond to every individual publicly-posted inquiry, but they're the ones that started this particular conversation. Even one short response or update (here in their thread, in their forum) would be greatly appreciated, by quite a few people I'd imagine. A response or update certainly wouldn't make people look forward to this product any less, unless that update was somehow negative. I'd substantially rather have these than the X-products or Beta's, and it was this D-60 introductory video that put my purchase of one or two of them on hold; because I'm a magpul user and fan. My point is that to start this thread (ie, a conversation) on this product and then decline to participate in that conversation for most of a year seems bad form at best. Just on the off chance that there was some magpul "don't comment in the introductory thread" policy that I wasn't aware of, I posted an inquiry in this forum more than a month ago; a thread with one simple and polite sentence: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_2_124/268455_D60_drum_date___.html Any updates on when these may be available to purchase...? Being that this is the magpul forum, the absence of follow-up or response in either this (their own) thread, or to that polite inquiry is frankly annoying. Even a response of "can't talk about it right now" is better than blanket muteness on customer inquiries. |
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Sigh... I guess I'm saying it wrong. My complaint isn't about having to wait; it's regarding the ignoring of customer inquiries and absence of any follow-up info at all, for that matter; what I meant about the "zero response to inquiries in the same forum where the seven-month-old announcement was made". I totally understand that a company can't respond to every individual publicly-posted inquiry, but they're the ones that started this particular conversation. Even one short response or update (here in their thread, in their forum) would be greatly appreciated, by quite a few people I'd imagine. A response or update certainly wouldn't make people look forward to this product any less, unless that update was somehow negative. I'd substantially rather have these than the X-products or Beta's, and it was this D-60 introductory video that put my purchase of one or two of them on hold; because I'm a magpul user and fan. My point is that to start this thread (ie, a conversation) on this product and then decline to participate in that conversation for most of a year seems bad form at best. Just on the off chance that there was some magpul "don't comment in the introductory thread" policy that I wasn't aware of, I posted an inquiry in this forum more than a month ago; a thread with one simple and polite sentence: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_2_124/268455_D60_drum_date___.html Being that this is the magpul forum, the absence of follow-up or response in either this (their own) thread, or to that polite inquiry is frankly annoying. Even a response of "can't talk about it right now" is better than blanket muteness on customer inquiries. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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...Gun owners are so fickle. Sigh... I guess I'm saying it wrong. My complaint isn't about having to wait; it's regarding the ignoring of customer inquiries and absence of any follow-up info at all, for that matter; what I meant about the "zero response to inquiries in the same forum where the seven-month-old announcement was made". I totally understand that a company can't respond to every individual publicly-posted inquiry, but they're the ones that started this particular conversation. Even one short response or update (here in their thread, in their forum) would be greatly appreciated, by quite a few people I'd imagine. A response or update certainly wouldn't make people look forward to this product any less, unless that update was somehow negative. I'd substantially rather have these than the X-products or Beta's, and it was this D-60 introductory video that put my purchase of one or two of them on hold; because I'm a magpul user and fan. My point is that to start this thread (ie, a conversation) on this product and then decline to participate in that conversation for most of a year seems bad form at best. Just on the off chance that there was some magpul "don't comment in the introductory thread" policy that I wasn't aware of, I posted an inquiry in this forum more than a month ago; a thread with one simple and polite sentence: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_2_124/268455_D60_drum_date___.html Any updates on when these may be available to purchase...? Being that this is the magpul forum, the absence of follow-up or response in either this (their own) thread, or to that polite inquiry is frankly annoying. Even a response of "can't talk about it right now" is better than blanket muteness on customer inquiries. This is the biggest rationalization of impatience I have ever read. Bravo! To sum up, your basic question is, "Why can't I have this RIGHT NOW!" Go read through some other official magpul product releases over the past 10 years, and you will get your answer. |
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Don't understand the hard-on for me; have I been anything but polite and direct..?
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I'd like to see these come to market, but let's not freak out about it. When the wait becomes Saiga 12 double stacks long... THEN we are officially authorized to bitch about it.
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It's because if they answer, they are hounded with questions. If I was in their shoes, I would do the same as they are doing. Or put out the teasers a month before shipping.
But a lot of times that doesn't work because someone has seen a sneak peek at a product and it's better to nip any speculation in the bud. |
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I'll definitely be getting at least 2 of these when they come out. I can wait.
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$129 will get me a lot of extra mags so I can practice fast mag swaps.
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