This program no longer exists. Ignore this thread.


(Replacement thread for the other one which went AWOL, and updatable)So, you want to consider the Army/Guard or Reserve, do you? Good choice!Here's what this is about. The Army has a referral/mentoring program in place, whereby someone who refers a potential soldier to a recruiter, and then mentors that soldier through the recruiting and training process, gets a nice cash bonus. Very handy, both for the referrer and also for the recruit. It's called "G-RAP" or "ESAR" in its various forms. The purpose of this thread is to link up potential recruits with an applicable ArfCom mentor. If the potential recruit goes straight to the recruiter himself, this opportunity is lost.So, couple of questions up front:1) "Do I get a taste of the cash?": No. That's why you get a nice enlistment bonus. This is for the mentor.2) "Then what's in it for me?": A mentor to help you through the recruiting/soldierising process, the satisfaction of helping out a fellow ArfCommer, and if this ArfCom 'program' works out, once in you can sign on as a mentor yourself and gain the fiscal benefits that way in the future.3) "Does it cost me anything?" No. These are funds set aside for G-RAP. If you don't have anyone refer you, the money stays in the Federal bank account in DC. There is no benefit to you for not being G-RAPed/ESARed4) "Do I have to pick an ArfCommer?": No. Chances are the first person you want to consider is a soldier or retiree whom you personally know and like in "real life." However, if you've got nobody better in mind, why not pick one of us?So, with those questions out of the way, here's how this works.Feel free to start a thread asking for opinions/advice, much as everyone has been doing up until now. Make up your mind if you wish to talk to a recruiter. If you do decide that you wish to talk to a recruiter (no commitment, just talk for information gathering), stop. If you wish to have someone in the real world GRAP/ESAR you, go find them and talk to them.If you are satisfied with the concept of having an ArfCommer as your mentor, look at the list below for the most suitable person. I would personally suggest by geographic region, but that's not mandatory. Guardsmen can refer Active Army recruits and vice versa. PM that individual and let them know you're interested in talking to a recruiter. That person will then PM or email you back requesting some basic information about you, which he will then forward in through the system and the recruiter will contact you soon enough.Again, there is no commitment required at this point. The recruiter will pitch his sale. If you decide to walk away at this point, no harm done. You'd be wrong to join the Navy, but we won't stop you. If you do decide to join up, then congratulations. Don't forget to tell your mentor!At this point, your mentor should be a point of contact for advice, help, and general moral support over the forthcoming months of misery which await you. If you think you're out of shape, and you're geographically close enough, your mentor should do PT with you! He'll probably write you letters during Basic to keep your spirits up. Before going to Basic, give you training on stripping/assembly of the M-16...no, wait.. This is ArfCom. You know how to do that already. Basically his job is to get you through the system to come out the other end as a qualified soldier.Once you're done, feel free to give feedback on your mentor. I will have no compunctions against removing persons from this list if they fail their obligations. Don't forget to have yourself added to the list as well!So, here's the list, in no particular order except as posted in the 'mentor recruiting' thread.If you wish to be added to this list, reply to .. Please, don't fill up this one. I do promise to check regularly.List of MentorsManic_MoranNorthern California, Northern Nevada. National Guard, Armor/Cavalry.LPDtacticalWest Central Ohio. National Guard, Air Defense ArtilleryBadDog38Ft Worth Area, Texas. Army Reserve, Civil Affairs.FnkystufMansfield, North-East Ohio. Air National Guard. Airlift._RAGNAR_Washington State/Pacific NW. National Guard, Infantry/Special Forces/Airborne. Stryker_11AEastern Pennsylvania. National Guard, Infantry. (Strykers)FightingHellfishCentral Arizona, Phoenix. National Guard, Infantry.VTInfantrySgtSouthern Vermont, New Hampshire. National Guard, Infantry.steveamyIowa, National Guard. Infantry/CavalryfoogooSouthern California, National Guard.madmathewConnecticut & Michigan. National Guard, Aviation.Garand_ShooterCarolinas, Eastern Tennessee, SouthWestern Virginia. Army Reserve.zdorf23Wisconsin, National Guard. Infantry/CavalrycookhjSan Antonio Area, Texas. Aviation MechanicTrOoPeRcHiN_Vermont. Guard/ROTC SMP, Military Police.JackBurtonMichigan. Guard. Field Artillery, Military Police. Also works for recruiters. (eek!)shootsenmeisterCurrently in Iraq. Active Duty. Ordnance. Former drill sergeant. (eek!)sms5183Missouri/Illinois/Idaho. Army Reserve. Combat Engineer.Depidy_DawgWyoming. Air Guard/Army Guard. AF Security Forces/Army Engineer.testedoneIllinois. Guard. Old Geezer.SylvanAlaska, also Oregon and Texas (!). Guard.CastilloNew York State. Guard. Combat Engineer, Airborne.FREEFALLE7Georgia (I think) Active Army, Infantry, Airborne, Master Parachutist. Drill Sergeant.WWCNDNebraska, National Guard. Infantry, Transportation.Sixgun_SymphonySeattle area, National Guard. Construction Engineer. (Plumbing, carpentry, electrician, that sort of thing)TestedNew Mexico. National Guard Infantry, formerly Army Reserve Medic, Engineer.Sgt_GoldNew York. National Guard. Signals, Infantry, MP.LoktMichigan, National Guard. Engineer, Officer/Warrant Officer Accessions.jchewieMichigan National Guard. Heavy Equipment Operator, Engineer.21BoomCBTENGRVirginia, Richmond/Hampton Roads area. Construction/Combat engineer.(Continues)

Continuing, as the previous post got too long.

Fordguy
South Carolina, National Guard, ex Active. Armour, ex Engineer, Signal. OCS/WOCS.

midwinter
Oregon, Portland Metro. Guard. Engineer.

GlockLuvinRedleg
Kansas. Active. Field Artillery, Legal Tech, MP, Small Arms Repair.

daveoioi
North Carolina. Ft Bragg/Fayetteville Area. Army Reserve

ZeikHunter
Texas, San Antonio Area. Army Reserve/Guard. Commo/Medical. Ex Artillery

T18B40
Mississippi. Guard. Special Forces, Recruiter.

Matt45
Washington, Spokane area, Guard. Mech Infantry, ex NBC/Supply.

Jame_Retief
Kentucky, Frankfort area. Guard, Signals, EWO. OCS. Mrs Retief Supply, Chaplain's Assistant.

ABN-RGR
Missouri, Guard. Infantry, Armour, Engineer, now Admin.

DocBach
California, Bay Area/Sacramento. Guard. Combat Medic.

NavyMA
Arizona, Guard. Frustrated/Disappointed MP (Seriously: Says he'll give honest answers)

PA452
Pennsylvania, I think. Active Duty. Military Intelligence.

MNshooter
Minnesota, Guard. Combat Engineer.

mk19gunner
Arizona, Reserves. Military Police.

A1C_Titan
Oregon, Air Guard. Security Forces.

FREEFALLE7
North Carolina, Eastern part. Army, Light Infantry/Airborne. Drill Sgt.

knightvision
Maryland, National Guard. OCS

RuinII
North Carolina. National Guard. Cavalry.

CAsoldier
Arizona, Mesa region. Civil Affairs.

centermass181
Massachusets, Cambridge. Infantry.

llanero
Missouri, SouthWest. Guard. Engineer.

Dave_A
Washington, Ft Lewis area. Active, Aviation Support.

Matt45
Washington, Spokane area. Guard, Mech Infantry, Armourer, Supply. Ex-Active.

elcope
Montana, Army Reserve

OBird
Minnesota, Twin Cities area. Guard, Military Police.

PAOPuke
Michigan, Guard. Public Affairs/Journalism.

IABountyHunter
Iowa, Guard. Supply, older junior enlisted.

natethreet
Michigan, Guard. Wheeled mechanic, former Active Duty.

SmilingBandit
Nebraska Air Guard, air refuelling tanker crew chief (Maintenance)

posifour11
North/NorthEastern Oklahoma, Southern Kansas, Western Missouri. Army reserve. Mechanic. (Can also aid other branches)

CitizenSoldier
Oklahoma, Guard.

Saggs
North Dakota (East), Guard. Air Defense Artillery.

MPD222
Retired, Active AF, AFR, Air Guard. ETAC/TAC-P (ROMAD), 1st Sgt, Operations Supt., Security Forces

gonzatron
Kentucky/Tenessee (Ft Campbell). Active Army. Special Ops Aviation

JS98010
Washington, Seattle. Air Guard. 2E171 Satellite, Wideband & Telemetry Systems Craftsman

DoorKicker
Alabama Guard. Not eligible for GRAP, but a recruiter. Particular emphasis on SF and Aviatino.

j13jjs
Georgia, Atlanta. National Guard, Infantry type.

TomF32
New York, somewhere. Guard. Aviation. (CH-47s)

schnackenberg
Oregon, usually between Corvallis and Portland. Guard

CamSmoky
Kansas, Topeka/Wichita. Air Guard. Jet engine tech, parachute rigger.

GelbviehMan1
Utah, Army Reserve. Combat engineer, tracked vehicle operator.

scottrh2
North Carolina, Guard. Recruiter/Retention'

bull_8
Virginia, Hamton Roads (Virginia Beach). Active, then Guard. Tanker, infantryman.

redranger1
Missouri, central area. Guard. Generator mechanic.

FMJshooter
Texas, Ft Hood. Active Duty. Former Guard. Infantry

semperfiws6
Wisconscin, Milwaukee area. Marine Corps (God help him).

timthemedic
Iowa, Cedar Falls area. Regular Army, Medic and Infantryman.

Treadhead
Northern Oregon, Guard. Tanker, Cav Scout, Engineer and Supply.

ewokn8r
Indiana, Central/Bloomington/W Lafayette areas. Army Reserve. Engineer, Trucker.

jerrmy
Alaska, Ft Greely. MP.

DoubleARon
Oklahoma, Regular Army. Legal Specialist, former Signalman.

TAP
Virginia. Shenandoah Valley. Army, Active and Guard.

broke_again
Nevada, Southern area. Air Guard, munitions and intel. (odd combo, no?)


Adventurer_96
Minnesota, Duluth. Air Guard, ex USAF. Something to do with F-16s.

nf9648
Hawaii, Guard. Aviation.

HudsonSaber761
Mississippi, Starkville/ MS State. ROTC SMP, Guard.

wicked_chicken
Utah, somewhere.

rainierhooker
Missouri, Central/Kansas City. Army Reserve, Aviation

sphayes73
North Carolina, Ft Bragg. Active Duty, Ordnance officer. (Maintenance etc).

deadcat
Washington, Ft Lewis. Active Duty, Infantry. Stryker unit.

daemon734
Alabama (North) and SW Georgia. Active Duty. Tanker, EOD.

zackjsimpson
North Carolina, Ft Bragg. Active Duty Combat Engineer.

redleg71
Georgia, Augusta. National Guard, ex Active Duty. Artilleryman.

Conspiro-Agnew
Alaska. (God help him). National Guard. Long Range Surveillance.

CrazyWhiteGuy
Washington, Tacoma. (With roots in Wisconsin) Active Duty. Field Intel. Former infantry

juicedz
Maryland, National Guard. Infantry. Former signalman.

GI-J
Germany (Originally Missouri). Active Duty. Intelligence.

ajm1911
Iraq. Active Duty. Chemical Corps. (eek!)

ffemt11b
Virginia. Infantry.

dibblejr
Alabama, Birmingham area. Former recruiter.

JSteensen
Arizona, Ft Huachuca. Military Police.

Raoc
Indiana. Camp Atterbury. Army Reserves, Engineer, Transportation.

snaggletooth1925
Washington State. MP, ex tank mechanic, armourer.

Mosin_Soldier
Arizona, Phoenix/Glendale. Army Reserve. Medic. (See CLS certification for easy promotion before going to Basic!)

cavscouty
Iowa, Des Moines. National Guard Cavalry scout. Former AD

taseal
Florida, National Guard. Infantry (anti-armour)

Bob-26
Wisconsin, near Watertown. National Guard 11B Infantry/ 31B Military Police

cvtrpr
Idaho, SE area, National Guard. Cavalry.

nukldragr
North Carolina, Ft Bragg area. Infantry, airborne.

tnolley
D.C. area. Infantry, Aircraft Electrician.

Anyone in IL near chicago?

testedone is the only IL I see on there...

you can add me to the list of Mentors, the link you posted didnt bring me anywhere
Iowa Army National Guard

Damn, wish I'd checked this a while ago. Already in the process.

thought about going back into the Army after being out for 5 years. I got out with 10% disability so I got a separation code of JFS and a re code of 3.  I talked to a recruiter who said I would need to go reserve for 6-8 months and then request to go active. He also suggested I think about going commissioned in the reserve since I now have a college degree. My major question is do they run a credit check for the application process for commission? and how clean does my credit need to be? and any other advice would be helpful.  Thanks.

Does this apply for officer candidates as well as enlistment? I'm considering National Guard in the Austin, TX area.

Hi, I just joined the site. I saw the other thread is archived.

You can add me to the list. USNR, Electronics Technician

sorry....my bust...pls delete if possible

I didn't read the whole thread,  but I'm a USMC reservist in an infantry unit, south central PA

I am possibly interested in re-enlisting into the military are the branches taking prior service?  I am 36 so Spec ops and high spped mos's are out. I have a few in mind but I dont want to call a recruiter jet.

I am a former Marine, with a 30% disability from the VA, will this affect me from joining the National Guard.

I am now an Army National Guard Recruiter

I have a few questions about maybe re-enlisting into the military. I don't really want to walk into the office yet, but I have questions.  I will give my personal info out through pm.

Any idea if an Age waiver for Enlistment (Army National Guard) is possible for non-Prior Service individuals?  I'm almost 37.

Unless it's changed since Jun '15, no.  Air Guard takes up to 39 IIRC

Active AF is also taking up to 39, now.  That's probably what I'll be doing, but my preference was the Army.

Are there any Texas AIR national guard on?

I got my honorable after 3 years and 8 months and separated as a SPC/E4.  Couple months later, a recruiter offered me a job as a drill sergeant with a nice little bonus.  HOWEVER as I was an E4 and this was a DS job, he said he couldn't guarantee me anything.  Instead he said I needed to sign a 4187 which would allow the unit to look at my records from the IRR and make me an offer... And I was stupid enough to sign that 4187.  

I ended up changing my mind a few days later after talking to a few buddies but next month I get a call from 1SG demanding why I'm not at drill.  I was like what are you talking about.  He informed me that the 4187 had allowed them to not make me an offer but pull my records and activate me.  Long story short, I am being processed as a unsatisfactory participant for not showing up.  I'll get a second DD-214 with an Othter than Honorable.  Makes it hard to get gov jobs (impossible for anything hat requires a clearance) but he reserves can't affect CH 33 GI bill and can't take away VA benefits.  

I am entirely to blame for signing that shit but I didn't get screwed when I first enlisted so I naively trusted this recruiter too.  Now I know better.  Hopefully some of you guys avoid making my mistake after reading this.

lol, i'll bet that's the short version.

 

Fo how long did you 'not show up'?


I find it hard to believe you missed one drill and BAM! OTH discharge.

Can we get this unpinned? This program is long over.