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Posted: 5/25/2016 8:53:05 AM EDT
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There's always the normal way, take a couple bills, your id, and birth certificate then head on down to the DMV for some fun.
Remember you'll be paying taxes in your new home state though. Which could be a good thing if it's one of the seven with no state income tax. |
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Posted: 5/25/2016 9:11:39 AM EDT
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There's always the normal way, take a couple bills, your id, and birth certificate then head on down to the DMV for some fun. Remember you'll be paying taxes in your new home state though. Which could be a good thing if it's one of the seven with no state income tax. Specifically looking at Virginia. Looks like you can't get a state ID without surrendering the other state license but if that's the route I go it is pretty standard: 2 forms of ID, prove citizenship, take a picture, get a new ID. VA seemed pretty good to military but this might end up being an issue. I'd be going from no state tax to state tax... Not the direction I want to go... |
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Posted: 5/25/2016 5:47:56 PM EDT
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Specifically looking at Virginia. Looks like you can't get a state ID without surrendering the other state license but if that's the route I go it is pretty standard: 2 forms of ID, prove citizenship, take a picture, get a new ID. VA seemed pretty good to military but this might end up being an issue. I'd be going from no state tax to state tax... Not the direction I want to go... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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There's always the normal way, take a couple bills, your id, and birth certificate then head on down to the DMV for some fun. Remember you'll be paying taxes in your new home state though. Which could be a good thing if it's one of the seven with no state income tax. Specifically looking at Virginia. Looks like you can't get a state ID without surrendering the other state license but if that's the route I go it is pretty standard: 2 forms of ID, prove citizenship, take a picture, get a new ID. VA seemed pretty good to military but this might end up being an issue. I'd be going from no state tax to state tax... Not the direction I want to go... That would suck. But it's still better than Maryland. |
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Posted: 5/25/2016 5:51:43 PM EDT
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ATF Faq
If you have a legal residence in a state neighboring the state to which you have PCS orders you can legally purchase in both states If a member of the Armed Forces maintains a home in one State and the member’s permanent duty station is in a nearby State to which he or she or she commutes each day, then the member has two States of residence and may purchase a firearm in either the State where the duty station is located or the State where the home is maintained. From your example legal residency in state C would likely be established based on that state's laws. |
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Posted: 5/25/2016 5:53:28 PM EDT
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Specifically looking at Virginia. Looks like you can't get a state ID without surrendering the other state license but if that's the route I go it is pretty standard: 2 forms of ID, prove citizenship, take a picture, get a new ID. VA seemed pretty good to military but this might end up being an issue. I'd be going from no state tax to state tax... Not the direction I want to go... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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There's always the normal way, take a couple bills, your id, and birth certificate then head on down to the DMV for some fun. Remember you'll be paying taxes in your new home state though. Which could be a good thing if it's one of the seven with no state income tax. Specifically looking at Virginia. Looks like you can't get a state ID without surrendering the other state license but if that's the route I go it is pretty standard: 2 forms of ID, prove citizenship, take a picture, get a new ID. VA seemed pretty good to military but this might end up being an issue. I'd be going from no state tax to state tax... Not the direction I want to go... That's pretty much standard for any state. Plus, didn't VA recently stop allowing out of state CCW? 
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Posted: 5/26/2016 2:41:06 AM EDT
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ATF Faq If you have a legal residence in a state neighboring the state to which you have PCS orders you can legally purchase in both states From your example legal residency in state C would likely be established based on that state's laws. Quote HistoryQuoted:
ATF Faq If you have a legal residence in a state neighboring the state to which you have PCS orders you can legally purchase in both states If a member of the Armed Forces maintains a home in one State and the member’s permanent duty station is in a nearby State to which he or she or she commutes each day, then the member has two States of residence and may purchase a firearm in either the State where the duty station is located or the State where the home is maintained. From your example legal residency in state C would likely be established based on that state's laws. Boom... I knew someone here would have the one piece of info to make this work! |
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Posted: 5/27/2016 6:01:36 AM EDT
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Boom... I knew someone here would have the one piece of info to make this work! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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ATF Faq If you have a legal residence in a state neighboring the state to which you have PCS orders you can legally purchase in both states If a member of the Armed Forces maintains a home in one State and the member’s permanent duty station is in a nearby State to which he or she or she commutes each day, then the member has two States of residence and may purchase a firearm in either the State where the duty station is located or the State where the home is maintained. From your example legal residency in state C would likely be established based on that state's laws. Boom... I knew someone here would have the one piece of info to make this work! Upon further investigation this is good for the federal form but no good for the state background check... VA requires their Driver's License or a Mil ID with orders for an assignment in the state of VA. Back to square one... Looks like becoming a VA resident would cost me north of $4,000/year in state taxes... |
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Posted: 5/27/2016 11:29:57 AM EDT
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I think that each state differs on residency laws but they are all still pretty similar. you must live in state C for xx amount of days I believe my state is 30 days (unless it has changed recently) the bitchy dvm wokies should be able to explain all of the requirements you need to establish residency in your new state some states require a longer time of residency for ccw and what not. also call the state patrol guys and talk to a Sgt. not a secretary (she probably wont know shit other than how to file speeding tickets but will act like she know every thing) good luck, hope this helps
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Posted: 5/27/2016 11:31:47 AM EDT
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As much as it would be a PITA, maybe opting for a transfer through the state where your orders are?
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Posted: 5/27/2016 2:18:02 PM EDT
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As much as it would be a PITA, maybe opting for a transfer through the state where your orders are? Some things he might want could be a problem in Maryland. I'm assuming he's stationed in Maryland. I could be wrong. |
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Posted: 5/27/2016 8:14:10 PM EDT
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You can be a resident of one state, and have a domicile in another. There is a difference between the two when it comes to taxes. An individual may have many residences, or physical dwellings in which he resides, but can have only one domicile, or that permanent residence to which he intends to return. You normally pay taxes in the sate of your domicile. Don't know if this is your case, but getting a DL in a state of residence does not automatically make it your domicile, especially if you are military. I recently had the same issue, likely with the same states you are dealing with.
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Posted: 5/28/2016 12:52:03 PM EDT
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You guys got it...
Orders to Maryland, living in Virginia. Don't want to deal with the laws in Maryland. The ATF allows this scenario for purposes of residency. Virginia does not - you essentially have to have a VA driver's license to go through their background checks. Since I won't physically live in MD I probably can't buy anything there either - or maybe I can just not standard cap mags. Wife was super excited when I told her I can't buy any guns for the next while. Little does she know how much optics and training classes cost... |
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Posted: 6/18/2016 4:29:10 PM EDT
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No reason you can't buy long guns, and since the AFT recognizes you as a resident, no legal reason you can't buy a handgun in a private sale.
http://www.vsp.state.va.us/Firearms_VFTP.shtm The primary form of ID for a non-Virginia resident, for the purchase of a rifle or shotgun, must consist of a valid photo-ID issued by a governmental agency of the prospective purchaser’s home state that denote the purchaser’s name, race, sex, date of birth and address. Federal law prohibits the sale or transfer of a handgun to a nonresident of the state in which the handgun is being purchased. |
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Posted: 6/20/2016 11:10:03 PM EDT
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No reason you can't buy long guns, and since the AFT recognizes you as a resident, no legal reason you can't buy a handgun in a private sale. http://www.vsp.state.va.us/Firearms_VFTP.shtm The primary form of ID for a non-Virginia resident, for the purchase of a rifle or shotgun, must consist of a valid photo-ID issued by a governmental agency of the prospective purchaser’s home state that denote the purchaser’s name, race, sex, date of birth and address. Federal law prohibits the sale or transfer of a handgun to a nonresident of the state in which the handgun is being purchased. I thought these two pieces of info would be the ticket plus there is a new rule in VA starting 1 July about using military ID and an LES for purchase. Since there is no longer an address on an LES the only thing stating where you are a resident is in the State Tax section - which is what I want to avoid. If I end up paying a bunch of state taxes it washes out the gun/ammo/training budgets... Spooky |
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Posted: 8/14/2016 3:35:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's pretty much standard for any state. Plus, didn't VA recently stop allowing out of state CCW? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: There's always the normal way, take a couple bills, your id, and birth certificate then head on down to the DMV for some fun. Remember you'll be paying taxes in your new home state though. Which could be a good thing if it's one of the seven with no state income tax. Specifically looking at Virginia. Looks like you can't get a state ID without surrendering the other state license but if that's the route I go it is pretty standard: 2 forms of ID, prove citizenship, take a picture, get a new ID. VA seemed pretty good to military but this might end up being an issue. I'd be going from no state tax to state tax... Not the direction I want to go... That's pretty much standard for any state. Plus, didn't VA recently stop allowing out of state CCW? |
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Posted: 8/16/2016 7:52:39 PM EDT
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I'm sure it will be really sporty when I try to get my CCW as a non-resident with a VA address...
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Posted: 8/19/2016 6:14:30 PM EDT
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Its not hard. I was assigned to Fort Leavenworth KS and actually lived across the border in Weston, MO while I was awaiting post housing. I changed my residence to Missouri and maintained that when we got post housing in KS. Now I was technically a resident of both states. I had driving licences from both states and could purchase in either one.
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Posted: 8/21/2016 12:00:13 PM EDT
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Its not hard. I was assigned to Fort Leavenworth KS and actually lived across the border in Weston, MO while I was awaiting post housing. I changed my residence to Missouri and maintained that when we got post housing in KS. Now I was technically a resident of both states. I had driving licences from both states and could purchase in either one. Unfortunately I think it really comes down to state laws - the ATF section mentioned above allows for this situation. I probably can't buy here unless I have either a VA driver's license or have orders assigning me to a base in Virginia. |
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Posted: 8/21/2016 12:11:45 PM EDT
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Unfortunately I think it really comes down to state laws - the ATF section mentioned above allows for this situation. I probably can't buy here unless I have either a VA driver's license or have orders assigning me to a base in Virginia. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Its not hard. I was assigned to Fort Leavenworth KS and actually lived across the border in Weston, MO while I was awaiting post housing. I changed my residence to Missouri and maintained that when we got post housing in KS. Now I was technically a resident of both states. I had driving licences from both states and could purchase in either one. Unfortunately I think it really comes down to state laws - the ATF section mentioned above allows for this situation. I probably can't buy here unless I have either a VA driver's license or have orders assigning me to a base in Virginia. Isn't having two licenses illegal? I know it is if you have a CDL, I just assumed it was for regular lic also. If it is you might not want to put it on a open post. I'll edit if necessary. |
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