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Posted: 10/14/2016 8:55:55 PM EDT
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I have never heard of one on HRT. The SWAT teams do.
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Posted: 10/14/2016 8:58:56 PM EDT
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TY...surprised if they were active/on-site vs. support personnel....
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Posted: 10/14/2016 9:05:08 PM EDT
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And are you sure the movie is her about being HRT? Seems like an odd plot for HRT use.
I now have to watch the movie to see. |
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Posted: 10/14/2016 9:09:08 PM EDT
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She's on a SWAT team in the movie.
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Posted: 10/14/2016 9:17:35 PM EDT
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Roger...they have the little Bambi as FBI HRT lead-agent at the films beginning...then gets recruited for same activity in a joint task-force against Mexican cartels...The movie got 7.6 om IMDB (2015)....I am having a hard time holding down my dinner watching this sissy Hollywood crap!
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Posted: 10/14/2016 9:29:53 PM EDT
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they have the little Bambi as FBI HRT lead-agent at the films beginning...then gets recruited for same activity in a joint task-force against Mexican cartels...The movie got 7.6 om IMDB (2015)....I am having a hard time holding down my dinner watching this sissy Hollywood crap!
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Posted: 10/14/2016 9:57:34 PM EDT
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Well, you've already suspended enough disbelief to believe that the Federal Bureau of Investigation has a legitimate need for a SWAT team in the first place, and that their SWAT team is some kind of magnificent elite unit with the skills of Delta SEALS.
Emily Blunt being a member is a relatively mild delusion in comparison  |
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Posted: 10/14/2016 10:01:15 PM EDT
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Roger...they have the little Bambi as FBI HRT lead-agent at the films beginning...then gets recruited for same activity in a joint task-force against Mexican cartels...The movie got 7.6 om IMDB (2015)....I am having a hard time holding down my dinner watching this sissy Hollywood crap! For now, just mind the time. 
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Posted: 10/14/2016 10:21:03 PM EDT
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FBI SWAT =/= HRT
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Posted: 10/14/2016 10:48:13 PM EDT
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FBI HRT and FBI SWAT are not the same. There is a female operator on a multi-jurisdictional Swat team in my area that is a special agent. No idea if she is on the FBI regional team. I'm going to assume she probably went to FBI swat school and not Wisconsin DOJ basic swat.
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Posted: 10/14/2016 10:49:07 PM EDT
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Hell, she was also the Angel of Verdun and I don't see anybody bitching about that.
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Posted: 10/15/2016 12:37:05 AM EDT
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Well, you've already suspended enough disbelief to believe that the Federal Bureau of Investigation has a legitimate need for a SWAT team in the first place, and that their SWAT team is some kind of magnificent elite unit with the skills of Delta SEALS. Emily Blunt being a member is a relatively mild delusion in comparison Not familiar with HRT, are you? |
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Posted: 10/15/2016 1:10:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not familiar with HRT, are you? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Well, you've already suspended enough disbelief to believe that the Federal Bureau of Investigation has a legitimate need for a SWAT team in the first place, and that their SWAT team is some kind of magnificent elite unit with the skills of Delta SEALS. Emily Blunt being a member is a relatively mild delusion in comparison Not familiar with HRT, are you? I am quite familiar with the exploits of Lon Horiuchi and the rest of the merry band of "WE HAVE A SWAT TEAM TOO!" How many hostages have they rescued again? Better question, have they a)rescued more hostages or b)killed more innocent people unnecessarily during their existence? Or we could talk about their brilliant capture of the Boston bomber... oh wait, that was a concerned citizen who called 911 and got some actual police officers to respond and investigate. You'll have to pardon me for not creaming my shorts over the thought of FBI dorks who wish they were real cops commandos calling each other operators and dressing up like mall ninjas. |
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Posted: 10/15/2016 1:20:20 AM EDT
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You really have no clue about HRT...
HRT has recruited directly from military spec ops for years now. Straight to HRT, no field agent first they try out BS... been that way for years. It used to be recruited and applied to HRT from within, but finding those types in the rank and file of the bureau was few and far between. Most of the current HRT guys have never worked a case in the field... So they arent navy-seal-delta-ranger wanna bees... they are the real deal... |
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Posted: 10/15/2016 1:38:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You really have no clue about HRT... HRT has recruited directly from military spec ops for years now. Straight to HRT, no field agent first they try out BS... been that way for years. It used to be recruited and applied to HRT from within, but finding those types in the rank and file of the bureau was few and far between. Most of the current HRT guys have never worked a case in the field... So they arent navy-seal-delta-ranger wanna bees... they are the real deal...  |
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Posted: 10/15/2016 12:25:06 PM EDT
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You really have no clue about HRT... HRT has recruited directly from military spec ops for years now. Straight to HRT, no field agent first they try out BS... been that way for years. It used to be recruited and applied to HRT from within, but finding those types in the rank and file of the bureau was few and far between. Most of the current HRT guys have never worked a case in the field... So they arent navy-seal-delta-ranger wanna bees... they are the real deal... It will still take another decade to rebuild the reputation they lost in the 1990s. |
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Posted: 10/15/2016 12:33:59 PM EDT
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FBI SWAT =/= HRT Your Data on this is inaccurate |
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Posted: 10/15/2016 12:35:16 PM EDT
[#18]
WOAH! Sour grapes perhaps?
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Posted: 10/15/2016 12:38:01 PM EDT
[#19]
 Great line, great actor!
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Posted: 10/15/2016 12:45:19 PM EDT
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I have never heard of one on HRT. The SWAT teams do. As far as I know, there has never been a female HRT. There have been female FBI SWAT and Red Shirts which is something completely different. |
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Posted: 10/15/2016 12:48:42 PM EDT
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Your Data on this is inaccurate Quote HistoryQuoted:
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FBI SWAT =/= HRT Your Data on this is inaccurate No. It's just you. FBI agents can elect to get SWAT training, it's not viewed as a career enhancer. They typically are deployed to local field offices/LEGATS and work as field agents. Whereas FBI HRT is at Quanitco VA. |
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Posted: 10/16/2016 1:23:15 AM EDT
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Regional FBI SWAT guys are regular old agents who picked up a new collateral. Some of them are good guys and I've heard of a couple gals in the ranks. They have decent gear and decent training. Most of the ones I've worked and trained with were your usual white bread CPA type agent. Very different from the national assets on HRT. I agree that HRT and other Fed tactical teams were responsible for some large scale buffoonery but the rescue of the kid from the bunker in Alabama was pretty impressive. |
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Posted: 10/18/2016 7:09:12 AM EDT
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For now, just mind the time. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Roger...they have the little Bambi as FBI HRT lead-agent at the films beginning...then gets recruited for same activity in a joint task-force against Mexican cartels...The movie got 7.6 om IMDB (2015)....I am having a hard time holding down my dinner watching this sissy Hollywood crap! For now, just mind the time. New Sicario thread! |
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Posted: 10/18/2016 10:54:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Your Data on this is inaccurate Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: FBI SWAT =/= HRT Your Data on this is inaccurate |
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Posted: 10/18/2016 10:55:10 AM EDT
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Quoted: I am trying my best to suspend disbelief in attempting to watch the movie "Sicario" w/ tiny Emily Blunt as an FBI SWAT/HRT active member,,,My initial research finds no history of a female ever becoming an active member of this elite unit. Could someone please give me a definite on this topic???? I would be stunned if a female has passed the rigorous physical requirement testing. |
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Posted: 10/18/2016 11:26:23 AM EDT
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But that was the whole point, that Judy was the first rabbit cop.
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Posted: 10/19/2016 3:08:13 AM EDT
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1. SWAT and HRT are vastly different.
2. There can be a place for females or extremely small statured males on a tactical team. (Who else is going to clear crawl spaces, attics, tunnels, etc.) Quote HistoryQuoted:
Regional FBI SWAT guys are regular old agents who picked up a new collateral. Some of them are good guys and I've heard of a couple gals in the ranks. They have decent gear and decent training. Most of the ones I've worked and trained with were your usual white bread CPA type agent. Very different from the national assets on HRT. I agree that HRT and other Fed tactical teams were responsible for some large scale buffoonery but the rescue of the kid from the bunker in Alabama was pretty impressive. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Regional FBI SWAT guys are regular old agents who picked up a new collateral. Some of them are good guys and I've heard of a couple gals in the ranks. They have decent gear and decent training. Most of the ones I've worked and trained with were your usual white bread CPA type agent. Very different from the national assets on HRT. I agree that HRT and other Fed tactical teams were responsible for some large scale buffoonery but the rescue of the kid from the bunker in Alabama was pretty impressive. The Alabama rescue was extremely impressive. One of the guys sole purpose was to drop down and use his body as a shield to protect the little boy from bullets. Talk about dedication. Quoted:
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You really have no clue about HRT... HRT has recruited directly from military spec ops for years now. Straight to HRT, no field agent first they try out BS... been that way for years. It used to be recruited and applied to HRT from within, but finding those types in the rank and file of the bureau was few and far between. Most of the current HRT guys have never worked a case in the field... So they arent navy-seal-delta-ranger wanna bees... they are the real deal... It will still take another decade to rebuild the reputation they lost in the 1990s. 1. They aren't actively trying to fix their reputation. Most people have no idea what happened in the 90s and do not care. And most people really don't pay attention to anything they do. 2. They are primarily comprised of former operators and their training is done with active operators. HRT is as competent as Delta or the SEAL's at this point. Agents are another story and for the most part have little tactical or law enforcement competency. They are useful for sitting behind a desk shuffling paperwork and watching surveillance video... |
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Posted: 10/20/2016 9:55:31 AM EDT
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I am quite familiar with the exploits of Lon Horiuchi and the rest of the merry band of "WE HAVE A SWAT TEAM TOO!" How many hostages have they rescued again? Better question, have they a)rescued more hostages or b)killed more innocent people unnecessarily during their existence? Or we could talk about their brilliant capture of the Boston bomber... oh wait, that was a concerned citizen who called 911 and got some actual police officers to respond and investigate. You'll have to pardon me for not creaming my shorts over the thought of FBI dorks who wish they were real cops commandos calling each other operators and dressing up like mall ninjas. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Well, you've already suspended enough disbelief to believe that the Federal Bureau of Investigation has a legitimate need for a SWAT team in the first place, and that their SWAT team is some kind of magnificent elite unit with the skills of Delta SEALS. Emily Blunt being a member is a relatively mild delusion in comparison Not familiar with HRT, are you? I am quite familiar with the exploits of Lon Horiuchi and the rest of the merry band of "WE HAVE A SWAT TEAM TOO!" How many hostages have they rescued again? Better question, have they a)rescued more hostages or b)killed more innocent people unnecessarily during their existence? Or we could talk about their brilliant capture of the Boston bomber... oh wait, that was a concerned citizen who called 911 and got some actual police officers to respond and investigate. You'll have to pardon me for not creaming my shorts over the thought of FBI dorks who wish they were real cops commandos calling each other operators and dressing up like mall ninjas. How do I subscribe to your newsletter? Serious question |
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Posted: 10/20/2016 9:58:45 AM EDT
[#29]
The last woman I saw on a SWAT team shot the hostage in the shoot house. |
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Posted: 10/20/2016 12:13:32 PM EDT
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I hear a lot of you cats talking shit about Women "Operators". I've worked with several such unicorns from the CS, and ISA types. The level of patriotism, dedications, and enthusiasm I have seen was refreshing. Several were barely out of college when recruited, and they could shoot, scoot, communicate and operate just like the rest of my Team cats. These rare unicorns are out there and they are damn competent and dangerous. Be glad they are on our side.
Full disclosure, I am married to one of them. She is what is termed a honey badger inside the school house. I would challenge any of you to undergo the selection process they are subjected to. The mental endurance games alone will wash out most cats on the forum. 18Z50....I put the suffering into selection. |
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Posted: 10/21/2016 6:13:11 PM EDT
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The last woman I saw on a SWAT team shot the hostage in the shoot house. She was right... 
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Posted: 10/22/2016 10:06:20 PM EDT
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Wow... that movie SUCKED!!!
She is a giant wuss and is a terrible story line. |
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Posted: 10/24/2016 8:42:48 AM EDT
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Great line, great actor!What are you on about? |
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Posted: 10/25/2016 12:33:32 PM EDT
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1. SWAT and HRT are vastly different. 2. There can be a place for females or extremely small statured males on a tactical team. (Who else is going to clear crawl spaces, attics, tunnels, etc.) The Alabama rescue was extremely impressive. One of the guys sole purpose was to drop down and use his body as a shield to protect the little boy from bullets. Talk about dedication. 1. They aren't actively trying to fix their reputation. Most people have no idea what happened in the 90s and do not care. And most people really don't pay attention to anything they do. 2. They are primarily comprised of former operators and their training is done with active operators. HRT is as competent as Delta or the SEAL's at this point. Agents are another story and for the most part have little tactical or law enforcement competency. They are useful for sitting behind a desk shuffling paperwork and watching surveillance video... Quote HistoryQuoted:
1. SWAT and HRT are vastly different. 2. There can be a place for females or extremely small statured males on a tactical team. (Who else is going to clear crawl spaces, attics, tunnels, etc.) Quoted:
Regional FBI SWAT guys are regular old agents who picked up a new collateral. Some of them are good guys and I've heard of a couple gals in the ranks. They have decent gear and decent training. Most of the ones I've worked and trained with were your usual white bread CPA type agent. Very different from the national assets on HRT. I agree that HRT and other Fed tactical teams were responsible for some large scale buffoonery but the rescue of the kid from the bunker in Alabama was pretty impressive. The Alabama rescue was extremely impressive. One of the guys sole purpose was to drop down and use his body as a shield to protect the little boy from bullets. Talk about dedication. Quoted:
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You really have no clue about HRT... HRT has recruited directly from military spec ops for years now. Straight to HRT, no field agent first they try out BS... been that way for years. It used to be recruited and applied to HRT from within, but finding those types in the rank and file of the bureau was few and far between. Most of the current HRT guys have never worked a case in the field... So they arent navy-seal-delta-ranger wanna bees... they are the real deal... It will still take another decade to rebuild the reputation they lost in the 1990s. 1. They aren't actively trying to fix their reputation. Most people have no idea what happened in the 90s and do not care. And most people really don't pay attention to anything they do. 2. They are primarily comprised of former operators and their training is done with active operators. HRT is as competent as Delta or the SEAL's at this point. Agents are another story and for the most part have little tactical or law enforcement competency. They are useful for sitting behind a desk shuffling paperwork and watching surveillance video... You sound like a former TFO..... |
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Posted: 10/29/2016 4:27:27 PM EDT
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I'll say this, Ive attended a rifle instructor school with a female former marine who does nuke security now. She could out shoot most of the men, and was all around GTG. I would trust her with my life no problem. Time to get out of the 50's mindset. It's OK though, I get it...different is scary.
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Posted: 10/29/2016 4:32:23 PM EDT
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She was assigned to a hostage rescue task force with Phoenix Police SWAT.
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Posted: 10/31/2016 3:42:24 PM EDT
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When I was on teams (we did all the roles, what you would call SWAT/HRT/Sniper, same people) I had a colleague who was a ground commander, and she had a whole team under her.......
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Posted: 10/31/2016 7:52:08 PM EDT
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The concept for the HRT was originally conceived during the late 1970's as a sort of "super SWAT team" that would be capable of handling extra-ordinary hostage situations, large scale counter-terrorist operations, situations involving nuclear or biological agents, or operations where local law enforcement or the regional FBI field office was not trained or equipped to handle. Final approval for the HRT was given in early 1982, and formal planning began in March, 1982. The initial HRT selection course was held in June, 1982 and consisted of three groups of thirty candidates each (including one female). Of this group fifty candidates were selected to continue on to more advanced training. The one female agent who tried out for the team voluntarily dropped herself from the course after becoming injured (she stayed on with the team, accepting a position with the HRT's support unit and eventually married one of HRT operators).
*Note* To this date no female agent has successfully completed the HRT selection and training course. http://www.specwarnet.net/taclink/Federal/FBI_HRT.htm |
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