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Posted: 7/11/2016 12:26:50 PM EDT
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I've used two different methods, depending if I have help or not.
Always carry a waist chain. (if offender is aggravated wait for help) If not aggravated hook other end to a belt loop (if no belt loop...wait for help, or the wagon) Anyone else? |
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Posted: 7/11/2016 1:42:12 PM EDT
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I watched a one armed drunk get cuffed ankle to wrist.
I left before he was moved. |
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Posted: 7/11/2016 1:46:48 PM EDT
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I watched a one armed drunk get cuffed ankle to wrist. I left before he was moved. Yep hobble from ankle to wrist. Play the stupid game win the stupid prize |
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Posted: 7/11/2016 2:19:53 PM EDT
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That or cuff his one arm to his belt or belt loop of his pants. It just doesnt happen much.
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Posted: 7/11/2016 3:13:39 PM EDT
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That or cuff his one arm to his belt or belt loop of his pants. It just doesnt happen much. Yep, belt loop. Only had to do it once and he was compliant so it wasn't an issue. I guess if he made it an issue I'd have to get the waist chain. |
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Posted: 7/11/2016 3:17:02 PM EDT
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That or cuff his one arm to his belt or belt loop of his pants. It just doesnt happen much. Back of belt ftw! |
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Posted: 7/11/2016 3:43:23 PM EDT
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Just had a guy in court today.
Both cuffs on one wrist and hooked to a waist chain and shackled with leg irons. |
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Posted: 7/11/2016 5:02:31 PM EDT
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Back of belt ftw! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That or cuff his one arm to his belt or belt loop of his pants. It just doesnt happen much. Back of belt ftw! This, belt loop isn't sturdy enough. Belt will work in a pinch but waist chain is ideal |
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Posted: 7/11/2016 5:08:35 PM EDT
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I've used two different methods, depending if I have help or not. Always carry a waist chain. (if offender is aggravated wait for help) If not aggravated hook other end to a belt loop (if no belt loop...wait for help, or the wagon) Anyone else? This, I used belly chain and put bracelet on single limb. |
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Posted: 7/11/2016 9:55:32 PM EDT
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How do you handcuff a suspect that only has one arm? the way I have done it was one to the hand and the other to his belt/belt loop behind his back. J- |
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Posted: 7/11/2016 10:06:29 PM EDT
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I feel like this should be a poll... How many of us have actually handcuffed a one armed man!?!? Count me in, who knew it was so common
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Posted: 7/11/2016 10:15:08 PM EDT
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O.K. a twist on the original problem. The subject has an amputated hand, or deformed one, where the rest of the arm is pretty much usable. But a cuff will not stay on the free arm. What do you do then?
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Posted: 7/11/2016 10:16:22 PM EDT
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Back of belt ftw! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That or cuff his one arm to his belt or belt loop of his pants. It just doesnt happen much. Back of belt ftw! yep, had it only once, good hand cuffed and the other cuff was around the leather belt in his pants, I figured that was better than a jeans belt loop. Now the other hand was missing about halfway between the wrist and elbow. He could have bonked me if he wanted to but was compliant. It was just a bench warrant ride to see the judge looking for his money. |
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Posted: 7/11/2016 10:34:46 PM EDT
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I feel like this should be a poll... How many of us have actually handcuffed a one armed man!?!? Count me in, who knew it was so common Your wish is my command. 
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Posted: 7/11/2016 10:37:28 PM EDT
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O.K. a twist on the original problem. The subject has an amputated hand, or deformed one, where the rest of the arm is pretty much usable. But a cuff will not stay on the free arm. What do you do then? NOT a LEO but I would cuff his good hand to one of his ankles. He'd be off balance enough to not be dangerous. (But what do I know?) |
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Posted: 7/11/2016 10:50:55 PM EDT
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Cuffed people that were in wheel chairs...
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Posted: 7/12/2016 12:05:28 AM EDT
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As one of my partners was fighting another passenger I was yelling at the the driver and middle seat passenger in a standard cab truck to show me their hands. For some reason I couldn't quite figure out where the middle guys other hand was. Finally figured out it was missing at his elbow. Best part... Dudes last name was Hand. You can't make this stuff up.
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Posted: 7/12/2016 1:46:23 AM EDT
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Normally just cuff to a belt or belt loop. We had a well known drunk around here that had one arm amputated at the elbow. Whenever you'd go to arrest him, you had to use one set of cuffs to cuff his good hand to his belt, and a hobble or set of leg chains to cuff his nub. Many a rookie had the shit knocked out of them by getting hit with the nub.
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Posted: 7/12/2016 6:12:55 AM EDT
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Cuffed people that were in wheel chairs... Yep, two sets of cuffs. Wrist to wheel on each side. |
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Posted: 7/12/2016 6:23:40 AM EDT
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What about a guy with no arms?
Or isn't he a threat since he's disarmed? 
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Posted: 7/12/2016 6:25:15 AM EDT
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How do you handcuff someone with those little T-Rex arms? |
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Posted: 7/12/2016 7:53:33 AM EDT
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How do you handcuff someone with those little T-Rex arms? Booked a guy in one night on 1st watch. Q: Nick name, street name, gang name? A: Flipper
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Posted: 7/12/2016 7:58:19 AM EDT
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I did a guy in a cast once.
Cuffed his non-casted hand to his belt. |
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Posted: 7/12/2016 11:16:55 AM EDT
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NOT a LEO but I would cuff his good hand to one of his ankles. He'd be off balance enough to not be dangerous. (But what do I know?) Quote HistoryQuoted:
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O.K. a twist on the original problem. The subject has an amputated hand, or deformed one, where the rest of the arm is pretty much usable. But a cuff will not stay on the free arm. What do you do then? NOT a LEO but I would cuff his good hand to one of his ankles. He'd be off balance enough to not be dangerous. (But what do I know?) Not really a best practice, but you do what you have to. Reason being is, when they intentionally fall on their face your department pays. I carried huge HVAC fat zip ties and leg irons for these types of problems. Now I have a monadnock flexicuff rolled up in my back pocket. This problem actually extends out. One of the worst whuppins' I ever saw was a Tennessee State Trooper getting his ass handed to him on the side of the road one night. This 85 pound drunk white trash bitch with child-sized hands and wrists slipped out of his cuffs and proceeded to wail on him. Him, being a gentleman, was trying to keep his hat on and keep her at arms' length until she tired out. I was not a gentleman. I slammed her and zip tied her hands and feet. We became best friends and she was a good source of information in that jurisdiction after that.... Little sized people and big / fat people don't cuff well. They are every bit as dangerous as the 85th percentile shaped / sized people, so I always cringe a little bit when I see some of the solutions other people have come up with. |
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Posted: 7/12/2016 12:34:55 PM EDT
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If very biligerent install bull ring in nut sack, handcuff arm to that.
Suspect no yanky chain.
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Posted: 7/13/2016 8:01:11 AM EDT
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If you're not carrying ROPE in the trunk, you're making life difficult for yourself.
When on patrol, I actually had a lasso, (a legit, stiff lasso from a rodeo shop) and actually used it twice. Once for a fat, nekkid, EDP and the other time to pick out a new girlfriend on Amsterdam Ave. (She was AMAZING...and I was positive she gave me AIDS....which thankfully never happened) I don't carry it on the new job, it's up on the wall in my garage now. I also kept 12 feet of rappelling line in my patrol bag that was used as a leash for stray dogs hundreds of times. (Our precinct placed more ghetto-dogs with new families than most rescues) and for coked-up space aliens and sleestaks that needed to be hog-tied before we threw them in the trunk for the ride to the hospital. |
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Posted: 7/13/2016 9:05:50 AM EDT
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Once, there were many "Fugitive" jokes made.
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I also kept 12 feet of rappelling line in my patrol bag that was used as a leash for stray dogs hundreds of times. (Our precinct placed more ghetto-dogs with new families than most rescues) It's not like you could take them to the ASPCA in Manhattan if you wanted to save them, they killed almost every dog we brought them. |
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Posted: 7/15/2016 1:24:35 PM EDT
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Once, there were many "Fugitive" jokes made. It's not like you could take them to the ASPCA in Manhattan if you wanted to save them, they killed almost every dog we brought them. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I also kept 12 feet of rappelling line in my patrol bag that was used as a leash for stray dogs hundreds of times. (Our precinct placed more ghetto-dogs with new families than most rescues) It's not like you could take them to the ASPCA in Manhattan if you wanted to save them, they killed almost every dog we brought them. We went full-tilt around '95, when one of the girls tried to adopt a pup we dropped off the night before. The Sgt. let her and her partner go down to 110th St. in the RMP during meal.. She had $200 cash with her. They told her they euthanized the dog about an hour after we dropped him off. I'm sure I still have Polaroids of that dog in a box downstairs. If the dog didn't attack us, it was NEVER brought to 110th St. |
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Posted: 7/19/2016 10:02:04 AM EDT
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I was at my county jail, asked an inmate to put his hands out the flap to cuff up and only one came out. I thought he was being an asshole and not responding to anything I said and then another deputy told me he only has one arm. Whoops. We put him in a full setup, just two cuffs on one arm,
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Posted: 7/19/2016 10:15:12 AM EDT
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cuff to nipple ring
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Posted: 7/19/2016 3:18:24 PM EDT
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Only in training.
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Posted: 7/21/2016 3:03:03 PM EDT
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transported more than a few in casts, some with missing fingers and a couple with missing arms. Belly chain is the only good way to do it....
On the street if I didn't have a chain, I would go around his belt in the middle of his back. no belt? Make a hole in his jeans in the center below the reinforced waist. But if all else fails, a few wraps of gorilla tape around his wrist and waist with his arm at his side... And everyone should have a roll of gorilla tape in their G-ride. I carry a roll of the 4" wide stuff and a small roll of the 1' wide. I have used it more than once to repair cars, mark locations and to fix broken gear 2 minutes before hitting a door... |
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Posted: 7/26/2016 1:23:49 AM EDT
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Serious question.
I'm pretty flexible and can easily move my arms from behind my back to my front when cuffed (don't ask). Say you cuff me and set me on the curb and I take a notion to re-position myself from back to front for matters of comfort. What is your reaction upon discovery when you return? |
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Posted: 7/31/2016 3:42:41 PM EDT
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I had a Japanese jujutsu instructor who only had a right hand, left arm ended in a stub. Whatever you do, do. NOT underestimate what people can do with a stump. When he would punch with that stump, it was like getting a broomstick in the ribs. He would put the stub in your sleeve, down your collar, inside the front of your shirt and throw me just like a man with a hand would. I quickly learned to never give him an inch when sparring.
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Posted: 8/2/2016 8:30:02 AM EDT
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Serious question. I'm pretty flexible and can easily move my arms from behind my back to my front when cuffed (don't ask). Say you cuff me and set me on the curb and I take a notion to re-position myself from back to front for matters of comfort. What is your reaction upon discovery when you return? That all depends on your attitude and why you're in handcuffs. |
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Posted: 8/2/2016 10:42:47 AM EDT
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That all depends on your attitude and why you're in handcuffs. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Serious question. I'm pretty flexible and can easily move my arms from behind my back to my front when cuffed (don't ask). Say you cuff me and set me on the curb and I take a notion to re-position myself from back to front for matters of comfort. What is your reaction upon discovery when you return? That all depends on your attitude and why you're in handcuffs. I'm just sitting there calm as a Buddhist monk. Lets say a traffic stop for 10 mph over and the system flagged me for a warrant for a missed court date. This very incident did occur a few years back. The warrant belonged to somebody else with my same full name and was cleared up before I ever went to jail. The first officer was not even a little amused when he came back and I was scratching my nose. I never bothered arguing short of asking what the supposed warrant was for and informing him he was in error and that I was not that Fidel_Cashflow. |
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Posted: 8/2/2016 10:56:46 PM EDT
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I'm just sitting there calm as a Buddhist monk. Lets say a traffic stop for 10 mph over and the system flagged me for a warrant for a missed court date. This very incident did occur a few years back. The warrant belonged to somebody else with my same full name and was cleared up before I ever went to jail. The first officer was not even a little amused when he came back and I was scratching my nose. I never bothered arguing short of asking what the supposed warrant was for and informing him he was in error and that I was not that Fidel_Cashflow. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Serious question. I'm pretty flexible and can easily move my arms from behind my back to my front when cuffed (don't ask). Say you cuff me and set me on the curb and I take a notion to re-position myself from back to front for matters of comfort. What is your reaction upon discovery when you return? That all depends on your attitude and why you're in handcuffs. I'm just sitting there calm as a Buddhist monk. Lets say a traffic stop for 10 mph over and the system flagged me for a warrant for a missed court date. This very incident did occur a few years back. The warrant belonged to somebody else with my same full name and was cleared up before I ever went to jail. The first officer was not even a little amused when he came back and I was scratching my nose. I never bothered arguing short of asking what the supposed warrant was for and informing him he was in error and that I was not that Fidel_Cashflow. First time you did it? "Hey man, don't be a jackass, put em back behind your back." And you are going to do it without me taking one off, you got em in front with them both on. After that if you do it again we put an end to the fuck fuck games |
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Posted: 8/8/2016 10:39:36 PM EDT
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How do you handcuff a suspect that only has one arm? Never. But I had an arrestee who had to go number one really bad. I told him to hold it, there is a toilet inside the gate doors to the jail. I pull into the jail. Go around to get the arresttee out who is still cuffed behind hus back. I walk him to the toilet and pull down his pants. And the I pulled them up after he was done. It was weird, but I would rather have done that than have him urinate in my patrol car, which happened before. |
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Posted: 8/9/2016 10:45:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: First time you did it? "Hey man, don't be a jackass, put em back behind your back." And you are going to do it without me taking one off, you got em in front with them both on. After that if you do it again we put an end to the fuck fuck games Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Serious question. I'm pretty flexible and can easily move my arms from behind my back to my front when cuffed (don't ask). Say you cuff me and set me on the curb and I take a notion to re-position myself from back to front for matters of comfort. What is your reaction upon discovery when you return? That all depends on your attitude and why you're in handcuffs. I'm just sitting there calm as a Buddhist monk. Lets say a traffic stop for 10 mph over and the system flagged me for a warrant for a missed court date. This very incident did occur a few years back. The warrant belonged to somebody else with my same full name and was cleared up before I ever went to jail. The first officer was not even a little amused when he came back and I was scratching my nose. I never bothered arguing short of asking what the supposed warrant was for and informing him he was in error and that I was not that Fidel_Cashflow. First time you did it? "Hey man, don't be a jackass, put em back behind your back." And you are going to do it without me taking one off, you got em in front with them both on. After that if you do it again we put an end to the fuck fuck games Yep. Cuffs stay in the back. |
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Posted: 8/10/2016 8:54:22 PM EDT
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I watched two Juneau,Alaska PD officers try to handcuff a one armed guy once. Broad daylight from a barstool in the Triangle Club about 1980. Dude was wasted but still pretty energetic. It was touch and go for quite a while but they finally got his arm shackled to his ankle. They had his wrist cuffed once and he got it loose from their grip and was hitting then on the head with the loose cuff. One of the most interesting thing ive ever seen out the bar window
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Posted: 8/13/2016 8:44:03 AM EDT
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Carry a waist belt with lock, without the lock it is worthless.
Flex cuffs are great for those times when abnormal cuffing is needed too. |
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Posted: 8/13/2016 10:33:43 AM EDT
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Kicked a door in on a guy with a warrant for his arrest. He had a cast on his arm, cuffed his other arm to his pants and called for the jail van to come pick him up. We do not have cages in our cars.
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Posted: 8/15/2016 6:04:28 AM EDT
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I have once, ran cuff around his belt and one of the loops to keep it from sliding
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Posted: 8/15/2016 9:35:49 PM EDT
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I'm just sitting there calm as a Buddhist monk. Lets say a traffic stop for 10 mph over and the system flagged me for a warrant for a missed court date. This very incident did occur a few years back. The warrant belonged to somebody else with my same full name and was cleared up before I ever went to jail. The first officer was not even a little amused when he came back and I was scratching my nose. I never bothered arguing short of asking what the supposed warrant was for and informing him he was in error and that I was not that Fidel_Cashflow. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Serious question. I'm pretty flexible and can easily move my arms from behind my back to my front when cuffed (don't ask). Say you cuff me and set me on the curb and I take a notion to re-position myself from back to front for matters of comfort. What is your reaction upon discovery when you return? That all depends on your attitude and why you're in handcuffs. I'm just sitting there calm as a Buddhist monk. Lets say a traffic stop for 10 mph over and the system flagged me for a warrant for a missed court date. This very incident did occur a few years back. The warrant belonged to somebody else with my same full name and was cleared up before I ever went to jail. The first officer was not even a little amused when he came back and I was scratching my nose. I never bothered arguing short of asking what the supposed warrant was for and informing him he was in error and that I was not that Fidel_Cashflow. In that case, you would get the eyebrow  and would then be given the opportunity to return your hands behind your back, where the cuffs would be adjusted to fit properly. If you refused, I would do it for you.
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Posted: 8/15/2016 9:40:16 PM EDT
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My friend almost shot a 1 armed man because he wouldn't put both hands above his head. He thought the guy was reaching for a weapon.
Had his buddy not screamed "He's only got one arm!", he'd have gotten a load of buckshot. |
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