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Posted: 2/4/2016 10:51:38 PM EDT
I am currently in school for LE and have NEVER been a fan of Glock. However a buddy from work claims once I do get a job as a cop, I wont have a choice but to use Glock.
Is this most likely the case? Should I start learning to accept Glock? 
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Posted: 2/4/2016 10:53:50 PM EDT
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All depends on the department. Around my a lot of places carry Sig's in either .357 sig or .40 but there are a few that run glocks.
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Posted: 2/4/2016 11:09:25 PM EDT
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Every dept is different and there and about a bazillion different options as to what some do/don't carry and what they will/won't allow you to carry. Yes. a large chunk of LE use Glocks (i'll stop just short of saying most), but don't waste time worrying about it until you are faced with the situation.
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Posted: 2/5/2016 11:00:08 AM EDT
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You should be way more concerned with what brand ink pen you're going to carry.
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Posted: 2/5/2016 11:17:49 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/5/2016 11:46:21 AM EDT
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If that's what you are worried about with LE work, then you need to study harder and stop thinking about guns. Sure we all have things we prefer.....however, there is so much more to LE than what gun you carry.
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Posted: 2/5/2016 12:29:32 PM EDT
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You should be way more concerned with what brand ink pen you're going to carry. Pilot G2, Parker, or Zebra 301? |
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Posted: 2/5/2016 1:08:51 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/5/2016 3:45:24 PM EDT
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You should be way more concerned with what brand ink pen you're going to carry. And don't forget to carry a few cheap ones to give out for people to write statements. You don't want them stealing your good ones. |
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Posted: 2/5/2016 4:25:03 PM EDT
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And don't forget to carry a few cheap ones to give out for people to write statements. You don't want them stealing your good ones. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You should be way more concerned with what brand ink pen you're going to carry. And don't forget to carry a few cheap ones to give out for people to write statements. You don't want them stealing your good ones. |
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Posted: 2/5/2016 5:51:26 PM EDT
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You should be way more concerned with what brand ink pen you're going to carry. Pilot G2, Parker, or Zebra 301? The Pilot G2's are nice. lol |
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Posted: 2/5/2016 9:05:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You should be way more concerned with what brand ink pen you're going to carry. My order of police agency concerns to decide if I want to work there: 1. State gun laws 2. Pay and retirement and weather 3. How strong the union is 4. If there are good restaurants in my beat 5. What kind of hat they give me and more importantly if I have to wear it or not ... lots of other shit 50. What kind of uniform I have to wear .... other shit 75. If I have to buy my own ink pens or not ... other shit 99. What kind of gun they give me Also I'm pretty sure most agencies automatically write off candidates that ask any variant of "What kind of gun/ammo do you carry?" at any point during the hiring process  |
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Posted: 2/5/2016 9:27:23 PM EDT
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Focus on your ability to write reports that don't make you look retarded.
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Posted: 2/5/2016 10:02:32 PM EDT
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I am currently in school for LE and have NEVER been a fan of Glock. However a buddy from work claims once I do get a job as a cop, I wont have a choice but to use Glock. Is this most likely the case? Should I start learning to accept Glock?
Thanks, Wissota4 Quit now... save some poor FTO the hassle. |
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Posted: 2/5/2016 10:18:31 PM EDT
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You should be way more concerned with what brand ink pen you're going to carry. Nailed it. |
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Posted: 2/5/2016 10:34:41 PM EDT
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Also remember that an agency might have glock today, and in 10 years its a Sig, and 10 years later is HK.
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Posted: 2/5/2016 10:49:45 PM EDT
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Yea I wouldn't buy a gun thinking that later down the line your going to use it as a duty gun.
I carry a Sig X-five tactical for duty use, if I was a town over it would be a Glock 21 or if it was another it would be an M&P40. |
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Posted: 2/5/2016 10:50:04 PM EDT
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You should be way more concerned with what brand ink pen you're going to carry. Pilot G2, Parker, or Zebra 301? Zebra 301 And a bag full of NNO pens for the general public. |
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Posted: 2/5/2016 11:07:44 PM EDT
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I am currently in school for LE and have NEVER been a fan of Glock. However a buddy from work claims once I do get a job as a cop, I wont have a choice but to use Glock. Is this most likely the case? Should I start learning to accept Glock?
Thanks, Wissota4 I wasn't a fan of a Glock till a professional taught me to shoot one. The Glock has a very good trigger with a really good reset. When you don't know what a reset, it is easy to mock it as a staple gun trigger. |
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Posted: 2/6/2016 12:39:01 AM EDT
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its a functional handgun that is easy to address in a field situation, its lighter than some, decently accurate, and not the worst ergos or trigger
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Posted: 2/6/2016 3:34:44 AM EDT
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No shit. Truth there. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You should be way more concerned with what brand ink pen you're going to carry. Or even touching to begin with. I use Parker, but have a box of cheap pens in glove box. |
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Posted: 2/6/2016 8:43:46 PM EDT
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I would say 90% of agencies in my state use Glocks. All the state agencies do. Not a huge fan myself but I have no choice. I am wondering if the Sig P320 ends up putting a dent in Glock's reign.
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Posted: 2/6/2016 10:04:23 PM EDT
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You should be way more concerned with what brand ink pen you're going to carry. This |
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Posted: 2/7/2016 12:33:08 AM EDT
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You should be way more concerned with what brand ink pen you're going to carry. And don't forget to carry a few cheap ones to give out for people to write statements. You don't want them stealing your good ones. I just stock up on the G2s if someone swipes one its not like its a fancy pen. I just take another one out of my stash and keep on writing. |
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Posted: 2/7/2016 1:20:00 AM EDT
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You should be way more concerned with what brand ink pen you're going to carry. And don't forget to carry a few cheap ones to give out for people to write statements. You don't want them stealing your good ones. Throw down pens, no joke. I use pens from church, they let me grab a few here and there. I have my pen, everyone else has one of those. |
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Posted: 2/7/2016 1:24:31 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/7/2016 1:49:12 AM EDT
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Throw down pens, no joke. I use pens from church, they let me grab a few here and there. I have my pen, everyone else has one of those. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You should be way more concerned with what brand ink pen you're going to carry. And don't forget to carry a few cheap ones to give out for people to write statements. You don't want them stealing your good ones. Throw down pens, no joke. I use pens from church, they let me grab a few here and there. I have my pen, everyone else has one of those. I carry a "me pen" and a couple "we pens." I don't share the me pen with anyone, and the we pens are single use. |
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Posted: 2/7/2016 5:00:00 AM EDT
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I've never had to carry one at either sheriff's office I've worked at. Only Glocks are issued around here. I could live with it if I was required to carry one, but fortunately we are given some discretion. I carry a P226R 9mm (pre-2005, no-MIM) and a buddy of mine just got a VP9, which is also very nice.
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Posted: 2/7/2016 4:26:50 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/7/2016 4:28:35 PM EDT
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Focus on your ability to write reports that don't make you look retarded. This. And "that" on the subject of pens. I bought a 40-count box of cheap Bic pens for shitbags to use. I don't need your cooties or your transmittable diseases on my personal pen. |
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Posted: 2/7/2016 8:40:07 PM EDT
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I carried a SIG 229r in .357 SIG.
It was a sweet gun--much nicer imo than a glock. |
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Posted: 2/7/2016 11:04:58 PM EDT
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You should be way more concerned with what brand ink pen you're going to carry. Truth. A good pistol shooter won't care what's put in his hand, he'll shoot it well. Quit worrying about dumb shit that doesn't matter. You'll carry what you're given. Learn your laws of arrest, 4th amendment search issues, 5th amendment interrogation issues, learn how to articulate what you see well in written and oral communication, and then get out and learn the folks in your patrol district. |
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Posted: 2/7/2016 11:05:33 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/8/2016 4:32:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You should be way more concerned with what brand ink pen you're going to carry. BTW I wasn't a Glock fan either, but I have grown to love my issued Gen 4 G21. |
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Posted: 2/9/2016 9:39:15 AM EDT
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I am currently in school for LE and have NEVER been a fan of Glock. However a buddy from work claims once I do get a job as a cop, I wont have a choice but to use Glock. Is this most likely the case? Should I start learning to accept Glock?
Thanks, Wissota4 Kid if they give you a gun, or even if you buy one, practice with it often under as real circumstances as you can. Even tho most of your agency probably wont. I can tell many of these naysayers either arent the Police or are the Police that cant shoot worth a damn and like to belittle those of us who can. Ive lived with it for 33 years and find these odd balls amusing. They dont train, dont show up to training, never have much good to say about training "or much of anything". And they probably wont show up to the tough jobs or make the tough calls. You didnt ask about pens or report writing. Or studying, or anything else. You asked about guns. Now assuming this wasnt a cute poke at Glocks you can rest assured you'll get an adequate tool in function and a Glock is one of them. Im 58yo and I still shoot 3 or 4 times a month hand gun and rifle and dry fire practice every day and it never stopped me from writing an excellent report. If you want to move past the average zebra in the herd take advanced training with your firearms even if you have to pay for them yourself. You can always write them off on taxes. Heres a guy who did and it paid off for him. [youtube]https://youtu.be/D_OuLsNR_wA[/youtube] |
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Posted: 2/9/2016 12:13:25 PM EDT
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Asked and answered. Another +1 for "depends on agency".
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Posted: 2/9/2016 1:56:46 PM EDT
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Kid if they give you a gun, or even if you buy one, practice with it often under as real circumstances as you can. Even tho most of your agency probably wont. I can tell many of these naysayers either arent the Police or are the Police that cant shoot worth a damn and like to belittle those of us who can. Ive lived with it for 33 years and find these odd balls amusing. They dont train, dont show up to training, never have much good to say about training "or much of anything". And they probably wont show up to the tough jobs or make the tough calls. You didnt ask about pens or report writing. Or studying, or anything else. You asked about guns. Now assuming this wasnt a cute poke at Glocks you can rest assured you'll get an adequate tool in function and a Glock is one of them. Im 58yo and I still shoot 3 or 4 times a month hand gun and rifle and dry fire practice every day and it never stopped me from writing an excellent report. If you want to move past the average zebra in the herd take advanced training with your firearms even if you have to pay for them yourself. You can always write them off on taxes. Heres a guy who did and it paid off for him.  https://youtu.be/D_OuLsNR_wA
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I am currently in school for LE and have NEVER been a fan of Glock. However a buddy from work claims once I do get a job as a cop, I wont have a choice but to use Glock. Is this most likely the case? Should I start learning to accept Glock?
Thanks, Wissota4 Kid if they give you a gun, or even if you buy one, practice with it often under as real circumstances as you can. Even tho most of your agency probably wont. I can tell many of these naysayers either arent the Police or are the Police that cant shoot worth a damn and like to belittle those of us who can. Ive lived with it for 33 years and find these odd balls amusing. They dont train, dont show up to training, never have much good to say about training "or much of anything". And they probably wont show up to the tough jobs or make the tough calls. You didnt ask about pens or report writing. Or studying, or anything else. You asked about guns. Now assuming this wasnt a cute poke at Glocks you can rest assured you'll get an adequate tool in function and a Glock is one of them. Im 58yo and I still shoot 3 or 4 times a month hand gun and rifle and dry fire practice every day and it never stopped me from writing an excellent report. If you want to move past the average zebra in the herd take advanced training with your firearms even if you have to pay for them yourself. You can always write them off on taxes. Heres a guy who did and it paid off for him. https://youtu.be/D_OuLsNR_wA
Lot of assumptions you're making there. |
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Posted: 2/9/2016 3:32:58 PM EDT
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The brand of toilet paper in the station bathroom concers me more than the gun and ammo combo.
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Posted: 2/9/2016 5:49:11 PM EDT
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[ Also I'm pretty sure most agencies automatically write off candidates that ask any variant of "What kind of gun/ammo do you carry?" at any point during the hiring process
God yes, the squirrel factor is VERY high with those guys. 
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Posted: 2/10/2016 5:00:10 AM EDT
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I miss my Glock. Issued guns suck
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Posted: 2/10/2016 4:36:53 PM EDT
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The brand of toilet paper in the station bathroom concers me more than the gun and ammo combo. I'm firmly convinced our toilet paper is made from rejected tissue that never made it into the boxes at the Kleenex factory. Talk about using 1/3 of a roll for one wipe
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Posted: 2/10/2016 4:54:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm firmly convinced our toilet paper is made from rejected tissue that never made it into the boxes at the Kleenex factory. Talk about using 1/3 of a roll for one wipe Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The brand of toilet paper in the station bathroom concers me more than the gun and ammo combo. I'm firmly convinced our toilet paper is made from rejected tissue that never made it into the boxes at the Kleenex factory. Talk about using 1/3 of a roll for one wipe Rough, tough and doesn't take shit from anybody... |
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Posted: 2/10/2016 5:32:34 PM EDT
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You should be way more concerned with what brand ink pen you're going to carry. Pilot G2, Parker, or Zebra 301? Just not an expensive Cross. Some fucker will steal it as soon as you set it down. |
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Posted: 2/10/2016 5:36:02 PM EDT
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Blue Zebra 301 and a couple cheap bank pens for others to use. Only I touch MY pen. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You should be way more concerned with what brand ink pen you're going to carry. Blue Zebra 301 and a couple cheap bank pens for others to use. Only I touch MY pen. Good God Man are you trying to bring down western civilization?!?! NOOOOOOO
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Posted: 2/11/2016 2:54:50 AM EDT
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I'm pretty sure our jail TP is John Wayne brand. Rough, tough and doesn't take shit from anybody... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The brand of toilet paper in the station bathroom concers me more than the gun and ammo combo. I'm firmly convinced our toilet paper is made from rejected tissue that never made it into the boxes at the Kleenex factory. Talk about using 1/3 of a roll for one wipe Rough, tough and doesn't take shit from anybody... I'm still trying to talk the union leadership into writing Charmin or Quilted Northern into the damn contract. |
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Posted: 2/12/2016 11:34:27 PM EDT
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You should be way more concerned with what brand ink pen you're going to carry. Blue Zebra 301 and a couple cheap bank pens for others to use. Only I touch MY pen. Good God Man are you trying to bring down western civilization?!?! NOOOOOOO We color code our station reports by the shift we're assigned, so we use black ink for black shift, red ink for red shift and blue ink for gold shift, because writing in highlighter sucks. Having been on all three shifts I have boxes of G2's in all 3 colors.
I've given them as presents at Xmas. G2's rock; save the freebie pens from the bank for patients and AMA's.
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Posted: 2/14/2016 2:33:08 AM EDT
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My order of police agency concerns to decide if I want to work there: 1. State gun laws 2. Pay and retirement and weather 3. How strong the union is 4. If there are good restaurants in my beat 5. What kind of hat they give me and more importantly if I have to wear it or not ... lots of other shit 50. What kind of uniform I have to wear .... other shit 75. If I have to buy my own ink pens or not ... other shit 99. What kind of gun they give me Also I'm pretty sure most agencies automatically write off candidates that ask any variant of "What kind of gun/ammo do you carry?" at any point during the hiring process
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You should be way more concerned with what brand ink pen you're going to carry. My order of police agency concerns to decide if I want to work there: 1. State gun laws 2. Pay and retirement and weather 3. How strong the union is 4. If there are good restaurants in my beat 5. What kind of hat they give me and more importantly if I have to wear it or not ... lots of other shit 50. What kind of uniform I have to wear .... other shit 75. If I have to buy my own ink pens or not ... other shit 99. What kind of gun they give me Also I'm pretty sure most agencies automatically write off candidates that ask any variant of "What kind of gun/ammo do you carry?" at any point during the hiring process
this man knows.... I have been around for a little bit and these all ring true. I have been blessed that we can carry almost any gun we want as long as we qualify with it but the other things are very very important too 
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Posted: 2/14/2016 3:46:19 AM EDT
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I've been LEO for only 3 years so I'm not supercop, but I patrol a hard neighborhood and see my fair share of crime.
With that said let me tell you what I have found to be important 1- Assuming your sharing a patrol car you need a good bag, one that fits all the things you'll need for duty. I have a 5.11 Patrolman's Mate 2- Clipboards, your going to want a good one for your activity sheet, another smaller one that holds everything you'll need on a traffic stop 3- Gloves, Get a good set for fighting/searching in and find a box of nitrile gloves that fit 4- Rain gear, ever had to direct traffic in the pouring rain without a coat because your reflective vest has to be your outer layer? Get a reflective coat 5- Head gear, You'll want a good hat for sun and a good beenie for cold make sure you get department approved ones 6- Spare cuff key and key fob for your patrol car, you will lock yourself out, you will look like a jackass 7- Get a good secure radio holder that wont come undone in a foot pursuit, it sucks and again you will look like a jackass 8- Find a pen you like buy a bunch and stock up on white out 9- Music for your car, get a lighter port powered FM transmitter or an aux cable if your patrol car takes one 10- GPS, try not to use it, learn your beat, but when you need it for an out of sector code 3 call you'll need it fast. Now that stuff will put you well ahead and save you lots of headaches, note that Glock vs 1911 wasn't in there. The academy will train you, you will be proficient, and if you feel you need more training seek it out. You'll find law enforcement friendly and discounted schools all over the place. Lastly pay attention to your FTO's, take the pieces of each one you like and figure out what part of the department you want to end up in. If you find a place you like seek out work that is similar on patrol and make a name for yourself there, be that traffic, DUI, Homicides, Drugs, Gangs...whatever. Good luck to you and stay safe. It is worth it! |
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Posted: 2/14/2016 5:28:26 AM EDT
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Fisher Space Pen
So cold you can't feel your hands, still writes. So hot out all the other pens bleed, not the Fisher. I've never owned a better pen. Buy a bunch of those Bic click top pens and a put them in something for everyone else to use when filling out statements etc. Keep one in your pocket for the "hey, can I borrow your pen" moments. Do not EVER hand over your pen, it will grow legs. |
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Posted: 2/14/2016 12:50:18 PM EDT
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Signo UniBall. /thread
Plus a handful of cheapies for everyone else. Mooch them from hotels and gas stations. |
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Posted: 2/16/2016 3:12:25 PM EDT
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Glocks are terrible. Just ask the Navy SEAL's. In all seriousness, don't be a duty gun snob. Train hard with it. Know your gun's strengths and weaknesses. I have been issued a Sig 229 for 16 years but prefer my personal Glocks. But when the department is willing to issue you a gun and ammo to shoot, just say " thank you, may I have another".
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