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Posted: 9/11/2015 3:50:45 PM EDT
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Given that my pay and benefits after 20 years as a cop is about equal to the pay and benefits of an E-4, I'm still trying to figure this one out..... Many departments pay more than yours. |
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Posted: 9/11/2015 5:52:01 PM EDT
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Yeah, ex, but many .mil officers make more than you did. If they give the discount to a BG as a blanket .mil discount, then they are kinda failing on that whole "poor underpaid" part. Arguing money is BS.
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Posted: 9/11/2015 10:46:20 PM EDT
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Yeah, ex, but many .mil officers make more than you did. If they give the discount to a BG as a blanket .mil discount, then they are kinda failing on that whole "poor underpaid" part. Arguing money is BS. Meh, some companies like .mil more than cops. |
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Posted: 9/12/2015 1:54:50 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/12/2015 1:57:11 PM EDT
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Calling all green leg humpers....
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Posted: 9/12/2015 3:48:29 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/12/2015 3:50:14 PM EDT
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Dillion Precision is in Scottsdale, Arizona.
Scottsdale cops do okay, but aren't rich. Start at $58K or so. |
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Posted: 9/12/2015 3:58:42 PM EDT
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I want to thank OP, I didn't realize they offered a discount to.mil. I am off to collect my more equal than some discount.
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Posted: 9/12/2015 4:30:43 PM EDT
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Not too long ago, I inquired about if Dillon Precision extended their military discount to active law enforcement as well. Yes, I know, their business, their rules, but here's the response I got: DillonHelp <[email protected]> Subject:RE: Web Form Contact From: Priority:Normal Date:Monday, August 24, 2015 5:46 PM Size:20 KB No disrespect is intended. The reason we offer a discount to active duty military is because they are paid far less for their service than anyone else. White your service in law enforcement is sadly as perilous as active duty military nowadays, you are compensated far better than any active duty military personnel are. Thank you! Dillon Precision Products, Inc. Given that my pay and benefits after 20 years as a cop is about equal to the pay and benefits of an E-4, I'm still trying to figure this one out..... I'm sure I can find other options for my reloading needs. Their business, their rules. My money, my patronage. And maybe that of others who might take umbrage, as well. You chose your career poorly...now go back to the FSA. |
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Posted: 9/12/2015 9:21:59 PM EDT
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Why do you feel you deserve a discount for your service as a LEO OP?
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Posted: 9/12/2015 10:33:16 PM EDT
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Why do you feel you deserve a discount for your service as a LEO OP? Why do you feel he doesnt |
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Posted: 9/12/2015 11:13:29 PM EDT
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Quoted: Not too long ago, I inquired about if Dillon Precision extended their military discount to active law enforcement as well. Yes, I know, their business, their rules, but here's the response I got: DillonHelp <[email protected]> Subject:RE: Web Form Contact From: Priority:Normal Date:Monday, August 24, 2015 5:46 PM Size:20 KB No disrespect is intended. The reason we offer a discount to active duty military is because they are paid far less for their service than anyone else. White your service in law enforcement is sadly as perilous as active duty military nowadays, you are compensated far better than any active duty military personnel are. Thank you! Dillon Precision Products, Inc. Given that my pay and benefits after 20 years as a cop is about equal to the pay and benefits of an E-4, I'm still trying to figure this one out..... I'm sure I can find other options for my reloading needs. Their business, their rules. My money, my patronage. And maybe that of others who might take umbrage, as well. |
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Posted: 9/12/2015 11:15:06 PM EDT
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Rofl.
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Posted: 9/12/2015 11:16:32 PM EDT
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Why do you feel you deserve a discount for your service as a LEO OP? Why do you feel he doesnt Because being a LEO doesn't entitle you to a discount, and his attitude of snubbing a company and disparaging them simply becAuse they don't give him a discount due to his career choice shows that he feels he deserves a discount. ETA: If as a Law Enforcement Officer you feel you deserve anything of physical value beyond your paycheck, you're in the wrong line of work. |
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Posted: 9/12/2015 11:17:34 PM EDT
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Because being a LEO doesn't entitle you to a discount, and his attitude of snubbing a company and disparaging them simply becAuse they don't give him a discount due to his career choice shows that he feels he deserves a discount. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why do you feel you deserve a discount for your service as a LEO OP? Why do you feel he doesnt Because being a LEO doesn't entitle you to a discount, and his attitude of snubbing a company and disparaging them simply becAuse they don't give him a discount due to his career choice shows that he feels he deserves a discount. I think he feels militarized. |
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Posted: 9/12/2015 11:18:47 PM EDT
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Why do you feel you deserve a discount for your service as a LEO OP? Why do you feel he doesnt Because being a LEO doesn't entitle you to a discount, and his attitude of snubbing a company and disparaging them simply becAuse they don't give him a discount due to his career choice shows that he feels he deserves a discount. I think he feels militarized. I think Dillon wants to avoid militarizing the police by not extending a military discount to police. |
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Posted: 9/12/2015 11:20:37 PM EDT
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Because being a LEO doesn't entitle you to a discount, and his attitude of snubbing a company and disparaging them simply becAuse they don't give him a discount due to his career choice shows that he feels he deserves a discount. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why do you feel you deserve a discount for your service as a LEO OP? Why do you feel he doesnt Because being a LEO doesn't entitle you to a discount, and his attitude of snubbing a company and disparaging them simply becAuse they don't give him a discount due to his career choice shows that he feels he deserves a discount. That's kind of how I took it too. I hate people that get offended when they are refused a discount. When I worked the gun counter cops would pull it all the time even on used guns I don't mind asking but the ones who were upset when told no are just silly.
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Posted: 9/12/2015 11:25:12 PM EDT
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That's kind of how I took it too. I hate people that get offended when they are refused a discount. When I worked the gun counter cops would pull it all the time even on used guns I don't mind asking but the ones who were upset when told no are just silly.Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why do you feel you deserve a discount for your service as a LEO OP? Why do you feel he doesnt Because being a LEO doesn't entitle you to a discount, and his attitude of snubbing a company and disparaging them simply becAuse they don't give him a discount due to his career choice shows that he feels he deserves a discount. That's kind of how I took it too. I hate people that get offended when they are refused a discount. When I worked the gun counter cops would pull it all the time even on used guns I don't mind asking but the ones who were upset when told no are just silly.I don't see anything wrong with asking either,hell, I could walk into McDonalds and ask for a discount for people wearing black t-shirts. Is it liekly to happen? Nope, but nothing ventured nothing gained. But asking about it, getting turned down, and then posting a bitch fit online on hamburger15.com to try to throw McDonalds under the bus for being anti-black t-shirt is pretty low IMHO. As an example. |
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Posted: 9/13/2015 6:26:58 AM EDT
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Sorry T7
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Posted: 9/13/2015 6:29:58 AM EDT
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Why do you feel you deserve a discount for your service as a LEO OP? Why do you feel he doesnt Because nobody owes him anything?
FSA gonna FSA |
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Posted: 9/13/2015 6:32:26 AM EDT
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Do you expect free coffee when you're working too?
Congratulations, guys like you are why there are policies in place for not accepting gratuities. I've been buying Dillon products for years, paying full price, and never thought to ask them if they had a law enforcement discount. |
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Posted: 9/13/2015 10:21:08 AM EDT
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I would remind visitors here that the ROE in BOTS is more akin to a technical forum and not General Discussion, but I shouldn't have to do that, right?
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Posted: 9/13/2015 3:59:52 PM EDT
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Now posting minus the Ex Arfcommio red italics, I'll throw my $0.02 in.
We were told in the fire academy (of all places) that there was no problem in accepting a small token of appreciation, like a cup of coffee - occasionally, as long as you weren't in the midst of an inspection or the shop keeper expected to get cut more than the usual slack in an occupancy or license inspection, as that became a quid pro quo, and could result not only in bad press for the agency/profession, but never being able to wear or carry tin of any kind again. When you start to expect such things that might indicate an issue, even though this is outside of the OP's normal job duties. Now FWIW there are any number of companies in the shooting sports business who offer any number of discounts to people from LE to FD, to MIL to NRA members to Instructors. If the OP wishes to make his choice primarily based on that criteria that's his call. <shrug>. |
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Posted: 9/13/2015 4:29:53 PM EDT
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I was told 13 years ago to never expect anything and always have your wallet out prepared to pay. A gift is a nice gesture but not expected.
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Posted: 9/13/2015 10:49:09 PM EDT
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I was told 13 years ago to never expect anything and always have your wallet out prepared to pay. A gift is a nice gesture but not expected. This. The example I encountered of this that really sticks in my mind was back in the heat wave of '95. We were running virtually non-stop hauling heat stroke and heat exhaustion cases to the ER. About 0130 I had my partner stop at the 7-11 that used to be across from the one ER we went to the most. I got a small slurpee and headed to the counter. I placed my bill on the counter and the clerk pushed it back at me saying "thank you". I tried again to pay "saying "thanks, but I can pay". She replied "I've seen you guys roll past here a dozen times today. Your money's no good here, not for this. Thanks for all you do". |
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Posted: 9/14/2015 12:49:47 AM EDT
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I got a little goody bag from a dentist when I had to talk to him on a case. I've never asked for anything nor do I expect LEO discount. I don't know why so many people get all up in arms over it.
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Posted: 9/14/2015 12:53:36 AM EDT
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I got a little goody bag from a dentist when I had to talk to him on a case. I've never asked for anything nor do I expect LEO discount. I don't know why so many people get all up in arms over it. Its driven by a combination of overinflated ego and a need for validation to maintain that ego. You see it with brand new out of basic training Soldiers, or guys who have signed but not gone into the .mil yet. Haven't done shit and cruise around demanding stuff from people and places. |
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Posted: 9/14/2015 2:02:38 AM EDT
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even though the local dunkin gives us free coffee I still tip the employee a couple bucks everytime. Most of the employees who work nights when I'm working are early twenty, taking classes, or trying to support a kid or their family. It's not right to drive around entitled to free things when everyone I get a discount from is making minimum wage.
I still view a lot of the local discounts as a thank you from the business for having a police presence for a few minutes and a possible deferent if possible criminals see cops rolling through regularly. Getting LEO discounts from online vendors seems greedy IMHO, others may disagree. |
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Posted: 9/14/2015 7:45:55 AM EDT
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I placed my bill on the counter and the clerk pushed it back at me saying "thank you". I tried again to pay "saying "thanks, but I can pay". She replied "I've seen you guys roll past here a dozen times today. Your money's no good here, not for this. Thanks for all you do". That's typically how it works for me. The night people like us coming in, some will let us buy, some will give us half off, some absolutely refuse payment, but I never have went to the counter without money in my hand, expecting to not have to pay. I don't think it's appropriate to ask for a discount. |
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Posted: 9/17/2015 10:06:53 AM EDT
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Sounds like the President of Dillon caught a traffic ticket.
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Posted: 9/17/2015 10:28:30 PM EDT
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Wow, retired from law Enforcement here and never understood the whole "discount to LEO" bit. Get over it and move along, It is the job you wanted and applied for.
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Posted: 9/17/2015 10:44:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Many departments pay more than yours. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Given that my pay and benefits after 20 years as a cop is about equal to the pay and benefits of an E-4, I'm still trying to figure this one out..... Many departments pay more than yours. Choose wisely. |
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Posted: 9/17/2015 10:49:54 PM EDT
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Discounts are nice when they're offered. If everybody stopped offering it would be literally no skin off my back. It's ncie when they do, when they don't I don't care. While we're public servants and all that it kind of defeats the purpose to expect stuff like that IMO.
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Posted: 10/2/2015 1:21:49 PM EDT
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I'd like to read the entire exchange between you and Dillon. The tone of their email seems a bit rude and they don't seem like that kind of an outfit to be that way without cause.
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Posted: 10/2/2015 5:18:09 PM EDT
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Dillion Precision is in Scottsdale, Arizona. Scottsdale cops do okay, but aren't rich. Start at $58K or so. I've been a cop for 9 years, promoted to corporal, and assigned to a violent crimes task force and that's 18k more than I make.... |
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