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Posted: 6/22/2015 7:11:30 PM EDT
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I graduated with a 3.91 so I had the superior academic achievement criteria fulfilled as well. The CBP Officer position is GS-5, and the BPA position is GS-7. I moved on in the CBP Officer hiring process, but BPA turned me away automatically.
From what I've been reading, it sounds like they want prior LEO's for the BPA job. Not really disappointed, I saw it coming. |
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Posted: 6/22/2015 7:44:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I graduated with a 3.91 so I had the superior academic achievement criteria fulfilled as well. The CBP Officer position is GS-5, and the BPA position is GS-7. I moved on in the CBP Officer hiring process, but BPA turned me away automatically. From what I've been reading, it sounds like they want prior LEO's for the BPA job. Not really disappointed, I saw it coming. |
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Posted: 6/22/2015 7:56:26 PM EDT
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best part of the latest announcement that closed. if you want to apply for the CBPO job in anchorage Alaska, you have to go to seattle for your written test, and seattle for your physical. IE 2200 miles.
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Posted: 6/26/2015 8:07:34 AM EDT
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According to the description on usajobs it's not needed to have prior Leo experience for BPA. I'm taking the BPA test in three weeks and have no prior Leo experience. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I graduated with a 3.91 so I had the superior academic achievement criteria fulfilled as well. The CBP Officer position is GS-5, and the BPA position is GS-7. I moved on in the CBP Officer hiring process, but BPA turned me away automatically. From what I've been reading, it sounds like they want prior LEO's for the BPA job. Not really disappointed, I saw it coming. That's awesome. Good luck! |
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Posted: 6/26/2015 6:50:33 PM EDT
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I graduated with a 3.91 so I had the superior academic achievement criteria fulfilled as well. The CBP Officer position is GS-5, and the BPA position is GS-7. I moved on in the CBP Officer hiring process, but BPA turned me away automatically. From what I've been reading, it sounds like they want prior LEO's for the BPA job. Not really disappointed, I saw it coming. I only had some college and no prior LE. I was offered a BPA job... unfortunately I got offered a job right after getting out of the customs academy so meh. If anything it may have been vet preference. |
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Posted: 6/26/2015 6:52:35 PM EDT
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Honorfirst forums are what you want to check out to learn about the job/hiring process. It took me a year and 7 months to get hired by BP there is a drop down box at the top for anyone looking for stuff about customs. same process pretty much though, unfortunately the ofo forum doesn't have the same standards the honor first which leads to a bunch of old customs slugs and tactical timmys crying about how the world has screwed them. |
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Posted: 6/27/2015 6:28:55 AM EDT
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I only had some college and no prior LE. I was offered a BPA job... unfortunately I got offered a job right after getting out of the customs academy so meh. If anything it may have been vet preference. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I graduated with a 3.91 so I had the superior academic achievement criteria fulfilled as well. The CBP Officer position is GS-5, and the BPA position is GS-7. I moved on in the CBP Officer hiring process, but BPA turned me away automatically. From what I've been reading, it sounds like they want prior LEO's for the BPA job. Not really disappointed, I saw it coming. I only had some college and no prior LE. I was offered a BPA job... unfortunately I got offered a job right after getting out of the customs academy so meh. If anything it may have been vet preference. Being a vet definitely helps with the fed. Not a vet here so my degree doesn't mean shit to most agencies right now. |
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Posted: 6/27/2015 8:39:15 PM EDT
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Being a vet definitely helps with the fed. Not a vet here so my degree doesn't mean shit to most agencies right now. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I graduated with a 3.91 so I had the superior academic achievement criteria fulfilled as well. The CBP Officer position is GS-5, and the BPA position is GS-7. I moved on in the CBP Officer hiring process, but BPA turned me away automatically. From what I've been reading, it sounds like they want prior LEO's for the BPA job. Not really disappointed, I saw it coming. I only had some college and no prior LE. I was offered a BPA job... unfortunately I got offered a job right after getting out of the customs academy so meh. If anything it may have been vet preference. Being a vet definitely helps with the fed. Not a vet here so my degree doesn't mean shit to most agencies right now. Not a vet either, luckily CBP-OFO was pretty hard up for people (which is always) so I got hired on pretty easy, BP was pretty short at the time too but then budget shenanigans happened so my process got held up until after I was out of the OFO academy. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 9:50:50 PM EDT
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For those that want a Federal LEO career, this is a good opportunity to get your federal time started. You will be more desirable, having Customs & Immigration knowledge/experience, and it will be easier to jump to another agency. Quote HistoryQuoted:
For those that want a Federal LEO career, this is a good opportunity to get your federal time started. You will be more desirable, having Customs & Immigration knowledge/experience, and it will be easier to jump to another agency. That was my plan when I first came in, figured it was a stepping stone.  I'm still here. My choice though, I've seen guys go to pretty much every other Agency out there, accept the FBI. I'm sure it's happened, but I don't know anyone who made that jump. Don't know why.
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If you apply make sure you're happy with where you end up as you will be there for 3-5 years if not more. +100 Try to apply under a specific location (NY, SD etc), try to avoid applying under a broad location ..."south west region" If you don't like the location they offer you, tell them where you want to go, and ask for a 90 day extension. The hiring people will LIE to you to fill spots. Prolly not as bad as a few years ago, but becareful. Don't believe anything say about transfers and location availability. Last I heard they offer you a spot, you take it OR your out of the hiring line up. That's how it was when I got hired 4 years ago. This is also what we were told, accept your offer or you were going in the circular file. I would encourage anyone who is going to apply to do their research and seek out the station they would like the most. You can always ask "Hey, I really wanted XXXXX Station, do you have any vacancies there?", when they call you with an offer. It may just work. I would follow the threads on Honorfirst to see who is getting Agents and go from there. If you ask for Casa Grande, AZ, you likely here the entire office laugh at you on the other end. ETA: This is for BP applicants. I just re-read the title and realized it's a CBPO announcement. |
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Posted: 6/30/2015 3:54:27 PM EDT
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Just got word I'm moving forward with the pre-employment process for the CBP Officer position. Update for those looking at a timeline:
CBPO 15-2 (GS-7) 5/9/15 - Applied 6/12/15 - Completed exam 6/30/15 - Referred to move forward with the pre-employment process. |
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Posted: 6/30/2015 3:58:22 PM EDT
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Been a CBPO since 2009 (currently a GS-12 Step 4); working on the SW Border right now. our port (Nogales, AZ) is HURTING for staff. People have either quit, joined other agencies or transferred to other POEs. And we have a lot of activity here, so if you want action, this is definitely the place to go. Don't believe me? Go to Netflix and watch the 1st Season of NatGeo's "Border Wars", filmed almost entirely in Nogales.
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Posted: 6/30/2015 4:31:06 PM EDT
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Looks I won't be seeing you, Black-Tiger, as I applied for El Paso.
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Posted: 7/1/2015 1:52:58 AM EDT
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Been a CBPO since 2009 (currently a GS-12 Step 4); working on the SW Border right now. our port (Nogales, AZ) is HURTING for staff. People have either quit, joined other agencies or transferred to other POEs. And we have a lot of activity here, so if you want action, this is definitely the place to go. Don't believe me? Go to Netflix and watch the 1st Season of NatGeo's "Border Wars", filmed almost entirely in Nogales. Hey tiger, have you heard of anyone wanting to swap from Nogi to Douglas? Believe it or not I'm having a pretty hard time getting over there, already been turned down for two laterals... which I didn't think was possible as I hear you guys are getting murdered over there. If you know anyone or hear anything me and another guy have been trying to get there. |
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Posted: 7/2/2015 7:25:03 AM EDT
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Hey tiger, have you heard of anyone wanting to swap from Nogi to Douglas? Believe it or not I'm having a pretty hard time getting over there, already been turned down for two laterals... which I didn't think was possible as I hear you guys are getting murdered over there. If you know anyone or hear anything me and another guy have been trying to get there. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Been a CBPO since 2009 (currently a GS-12 Step 4); working on the SW Border right now. our port (Nogales, AZ) is HURTING for staff. People have either quit, joined other agencies or transferred to other POEs. And we have a lot of activity here, so if you want action, this is definitely the place to go. Don't believe me? Go to Netflix and watch the 1st Season of NatGeo's "Border Wars", filmed almost entirely in Nogales. Hey tiger, have you heard of anyone wanting to swap from Nogi to Douglas? Believe it or not I'm having a pretty hard time getting over there, already been turned down for two laterals... which I didn't think was possible as I hear you guys are getting murdered over there. If you know anyone or hear anything me and another guy have been trying to get there. Never pancake, you are never getting out. 
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Posted: 7/2/2015 7:39:20 AM EDT
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Similar experience but my poly agent said I was being deceptive, but I've passed other polygraphs. Dude interrogated me for two hours after it was over  Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I applied as CBP a few years ago, went through the entire hiring process to get shut down on the background check due to admitting marijuana use 8 fucking years earlier in college.
In retrospect it was probably a blessing, I was slated to go to Yuma if I attended the academy. Now I graduate nursing school in 11 days and won't be hamstrung by a President who won't let you do your job. I Dunno if there are agents on the board, but I can help you with what I remember about the process. ETA looks like there are agents on here, they can better walk you through the process Same thing happened to me. Multiple year process down the drain cause my interrogator said I was being deceptive. It was all about past Marijuana use when I was 15, only did it a handful of times but he didn't believe me. |
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Posted: 7/2/2015 12:14:56 PM EDT
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Been a CBPO since 2009 (currently a GS-12 Step 4); working on the SW Border right now. our port (Nogales, AZ) is HURTING for staff. People have either quit, joined other agencies or transferred to other POEs. And we have a lot of activity here, so if you want action, this is definitely the place to go. Don't believe me? Go to Netflix and watch the 1st Season of NatGeo's "Border Wars", filmed almost entirely in Nogales. Hey tiger, have you heard of anyone wanting to swap from Nogi to Douglas? Believe it or not I'm having a pretty hard time getting over there, already been turned down for two laterals... which I didn't think was possible as I hear you guys are getting murdered over there. If you know anyone or hear anything me and another guy have been trying to get there. Never pancake, you are never getting out. I feel like there is a stealth arfcomer among us at work... Either that or its just a known fact I'm not going anywhere |
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Posted: 7/2/2015 12:20:51 PM EDT
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Spent a year in the pool don't waste your time. Got bumped out for only recent college graduates.
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Posted: 7/2/2015 12:50:05 PM EDT
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Been a CBPO since 2009 (currently a GS-12 Step 4); working on the SW Border right now. our port (Nogales, AZ) is HURTING for staff. People have either quit, joined other agencies or transferred to other POEs. And we have a lot of activity here, so if you want action, this is definitely the place to go. Don't believe me? Go to Netflix and watch the 1st Season of NatGeo's "Border Wars", filmed almost entirely in Nogales. Hey tiger, have you heard of anyone wanting to swap from Nogi to Douglas? Believe it or not I'm having a pretty hard time getting over there, already been turned down for two laterals... which I didn't think was possible as I hear you guys are getting murdered over there. If you know anyone or hear anything me and another guy have been trying to get there. Never pancake, you are never getting out. I feel like there is a stealth arfcomer among us at work... Either that or its just a known fact I'm not going anywhere You must be on a double because you should be able to figure it out. I mean jeez I have a picture of myself as my avatar. |
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Posted: 7/2/2015 1:12:40 PM EDT
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Been a CBPO since 2009 (currently a GS-12 Step 4); working on the SW Border right now. our port (Nogales, AZ) is HURTING for staff. People have either quit, joined other agencies or transferred to other POEs. And we have a lot of activity here, so if you want action, this is definitely the place to go. Don't believe me? Go to Netflix and watch the 1st Season of NatGeo's "Border Wars", filmed almost entirely in Nogales. Hey tiger, have you heard of anyone wanting to swap from Nogi to Douglas? Believe it or not I'm having a pretty hard time getting over there, already been turned down for two laterals... which I didn't think was possible as I hear you guys are getting murdered over there. If you know anyone or hear anything me and another guy have been trying to get there. Never pancake, you are never getting out. I feel like there is a stealth arfcomer among us at work... Either that or its just a known fact I'm not going anywhere You must be on a double because you should be able to figure it out. I mean jeez I have a picture of myself as my avatar. I was still waking up mija, i got it now fuckhead |
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Posted: 7/4/2015 1:20:51 AM EDT
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I'm an FTO up here on the northern border and were getting very few off the street hires.
The last 4 new guys at our POE were 3 BPA's and a TSA Supervisor who transferred over. I did my time down south at CAL, SYS, OTM and Tecate. I miss it sometimes........... |
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Posted: 7/4/2015 7:17:30 AM EDT
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I'm an FTO up here on the northern border and were getting very few off the street hires. The last 4 new guys at our POE were 3 BPA's and a TSA Supervisor who transferred over. I did my time down south at CAL, SYS, OTM and Tecate. I miss it sometimes........... USBP is bleeding people faster than they're hiring these days, and a lot are going CBPO. Why is there an 'F' in your title
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Posted: 7/5/2015 3:30:23 PM EDT
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Field training officer. USBP is not the same as before. Some places have hard X's where you sit all day with little action. Also recent pay reform has cost agents a good chunk of money. Port guys do make more money but at the cost of lots of time working double shifts with little time for family. Leads to divorce, alimony, child support then you're not earning so much, seen a lot of friends go that route. Still a good start if you have a degree and then make the jump to DEA, FBI, etc.
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Posted: 7/5/2015 7:55:04 PM EDT
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Field training officer. USBP is not the same as before. Some places have hard X's where you sit all day with little action. Also recent pay reform has cost agents a good chunk of money. Port guys do make more money but at the cost of lots of time working double shifts with little time for family. Leads to divorce, alimony, child support then you're not earning so much, seen a lot of friends go that route. Still a good start if you have a degree and then make the jump to DEA, FBI, etc. I think he was joking about the F in FTO as there isn't really much of a "field" to be training in. Agreed on the money issue, although the constant doubles and stuff depends A LOT on where you are working. I do more OT in a month than other guys might get in a year at the smaller ports or better staffed larger ports. It's almost a different agency from port to port sometimes. |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 9:33:04 PM EDT
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I think he was joking about the F in FTO as there isn't really much of a "field" to be training in. Agreed on the money issue, although the constant doubles and stuff depends A LOT on where you are working. I do more OT in a month than other guys might get in a year at the smaller ports or better staffed larger ports. It's almost a different agency from port to port sometimes. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Field training officer. USBP is not the same as before. Some places have hard X's where you sit all day with little action. Also recent pay reform has cost agents a good chunk of money. Port guys do make more money but at the cost of lots of time working double shifts with little time for family. Leads to divorce, alimony, child support then you're not earning so much, seen a lot of friends go that route. Still a good start if you have a degree and then make the jump to DEA, FBI, etc. I think he was joking about the F in FTO as there isn't really much of a "field" to be training in. Agreed on the money issue, although the constant doubles and stuff depends A LOT on where you are working. I do more OT in a month than other guys might get in a year at the smaller ports or better staffed larger ports. It's almost a different agency from port to port sometimes. Correct. Also, I think DHS, as a whole (well except maybe the CG I dunno) is currently suffering from an appalling lack of leadership...I know BP stations are like independent fiefdoms with jealously guarded traditions and SOPs. Not a lot of interagency talk or cooperation either, at least at the lower levels. |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 10:38:40 PM EDT
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I think he was joking about the F in FTO as there isn't really much of a "field" to be training in. Agreed on the money issue, although the constant doubles and stuff depends A LOT on where you are working. I do more OT in a month than other guys might get in a year at the smaller ports or better staffed larger ports. It's almost a different agency from port to port sometimes. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Field training officer. USBP is not the same as before. Some places have hard X's where you sit all day with little action. Also recent pay reform has cost agents a good chunk of money. Port guys do make more money but at the cost of lots of time working double shifts with little time for family. Leads to divorce, alimony, child support then you're not earning so much, seen a lot of friends go that route. Still a good start if you have a degree and then make the jump to DEA, FBI, etc. I think he was joking about the F in FTO as there isn't really much of a "field" to be training in. Agreed on the money issue, although the constant doubles and stuff depends A LOT on where you are working. I do more OT in a month than other guys might get in a year at the smaller ports or better staffed larger ports. It's almost a different agency from port to port sometimes. Most POE's have FTO's for pre and post academy training. Didn't have them back in 1996 when I went trough FLETC. My 1st year I doubled my base salary with the OT, but that was under the old system. Most southern border CBPO start maxing out in OT around April, then CBP gets approval to go over the $35,000 cap. . Northern border doesn't have nearly as much OT, |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 11:21:36 PM EDT
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Most POE's have FTO's for pre and post academy training. Didn't have them back in 1996 when I went trough FLETC. My 1st year I doubled my base salary with the OT, but that was under the old system. Most southern border CBPO start maxing out in OT around April, then CBP gets approval to go over the $35,000 cap. . Northern border doesn't have nearly as much OT, Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Field training officer. USBP is not the same as before. Some places have hard X's where you sit all day with little action. Also recent pay reform has cost agents a good chunk of money. Port guys do make more money but at the cost of lots of time working double shifts with little time for family. Leads to divorce, alimony, child support then you're not earning so much, seen a lot of friends go that route. Still a good start if you have a degree and then make the jump to DEA, FBI, etc. I think he was joking about the F in FTO as there isn't really much of a "field" to be training in. Agreed on the money issue, although the constant doubles and stuff depends A LOT on where you are working. I do more OT in a month than other guys might get in a year at the smaller ports or better staffed larger ports. It's almost a different agency from port to port sometimes. Most POE's have FTO's for pre and post academy training. Didn't have them back in 1996 when I went trough FLETC. My 1st year I doubled my base salary with the OT, but that was under the old system. Most southern border CBPO start maxing out in OT around April, then CBP gets approval to go over the $35,000 cap. . Northern border doesn't have nearly as much OT, Ya I know about FTOs, I got on in 2011 so I had to go through FTO. The BPA was joking about FTO, taking a jab at the "field" part as they like to do (I got a chuckle). I'm at 12k in OT right now on the SWB, which is what I finished with the past couple years. I'll probably go from 12 to 17.5k by the end of July as it's really picked up lately. The reapplies hit AZ pretty hard |
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Posted: 7/5/2015 11:23:26 PM EDT
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Correct. Also, I think DHS, as a whole (well except maybe the CG I dunno) is currently suffering from an appalling lack of leadership...I know BP stations are like independent fiefdoms with jealously guarded traditions and SOPs. Not a lot of interagency talk or cooperation either, at least at the lower levels. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Field training officer. USBP is not the same as before. Some places have hard X's where you sit all day with little action. Also recent pay reform has cost agents a good chunk of money. Port guys do make more money but at the cost of lots of time working double shifts with little time for family. Leads to divorce, alimony, child support then you're not earning so much, seen a lot of friends go that route. Still a good start if you have a degree and then make the jump to DEA, FBI, etc. I think he was joking about the F in FTO as there isn't really much of a "field" to be training in. Agreed on the money issue, although the constant doubles and stuff depends A LOT on where you are working. I do more OT in a month than other guys might get in a year at the smaller ports or better staffed larger ports. It's almost a different agency from port to port sometimes. Correct. Also, I think DHS, as a whole (well except maybe the CG I dunno) is currently suffering from an appalling lack of leadership...I know BP stations are like independent fiefdoms with jealously guarded traditions and SOPs. Not a lot of interagency talk or cooperation either, at least at the lower levels. We have a lot of leadership right now. We're being lead into not doing our jobs, it's still leadership, right? I don't think things will improve until there's an administration change, and even then, could get worse I guess. |
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Posted: 7/6/2015 12:08:15 AM EDT
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Field training officer. USBP is not the same as before. Some places have hard X's where you sit all day with little action. Also recent pay reform has cost agents a good chunk of money. Port guys do make more money but at the cost of lots of time working double shifts with little time for family. Leads to divorce, alimony, child support then you're not earning so much, seen a lot of friends go that route. Still a good start if you have a degree and then make the jump to DEA, FBI, etc. I think he was joking about the F in FTO as there isn't really much of a "field" to be training in. Agreed on the money issue, although the constant doubles and stuff depends A LOT on where you are working. I do more OT in a month than other guys might get in a year at the smaller ports or better staffed larger ports. It's almost a different agency from port to port sometimes. Correct. Also, I think DHS, as a whole (well except maybe the CG I dunno) is currently suffering from an appalling lack of leadership...I know BP stations are like independent fiefdoms with jealously guarded traditions and SOPs. Not a lot of interagency talk or cooperation either, at least at the lower levels. We have a lot of leadership right now. We're being lead into not doing our jobs, it's still leadership, right? I don't think things will improve until there's an administration change, and even then, could get worse I guess. DHS's leadership is cut from the same mold as the Secret Service, OPM and Veteran's Administration. |
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Posted: 7/6/2015 7:29:16 AM EDT
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I'm at 12k in OT right now on the SWB, which is what I finished with the past couple years. I'll probably go from 12 to 17.5k by the end of July as it's really picked up lately. The reapplies hit AZ pretty hard Sounds like people got to gettin' while the gettin' was good, mija. |
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Posted: 7/6/2015 7:20:44 PM EDT
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I'm at 12k in OT right now on the SWB, which is what I finished with the past couple years. I'll probably go from 12 to 17.5k by the end of July as it's really picked up lately. The reapplies hit AZ pretty hard Sounds like people got to gettin' while the gettin' was good, mija. A few certain people have almost cried from the drafts... literally... again. |
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Posted: 7/6/2015 10:32:59 PM EDT
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I'm at 12k in OT right now on the SWB, which is what I finished with the past couple years. I'll probably go from 12 to 17.5k by the end of July as it's really picked up lately. The reapplies hit AZ pretty hard Sounds like people got to gettin' while the gettin' was good, mija. A few certain people have almost cried from the drafts... literally... again. I saw it with my own two eyes the first time. |
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