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Posted: 4/11/2014 10:04:59 PM EDT
I have been looking all over to see if anyone puts together a good LEO first aid kit without the fluff. I have come to the conclusion its probably best I put one together.  Can anyone recommend a website that offers fair pricing for individual supplies? The only one I know of is Chinook Medical Gear.  Im looking to put together an active shooter/bleeding control type kit.  I am have good idea of the supplies needed but am always open to suggestions.  Thanks for the help
Link Posted: 4/12/2014 8:15:55 AM EDT
[#2]
NAR has discount pricing for LEO. Make sure and get that pricing first before making a selection. You may be able to buy more than what ya think depending on budget.
Link Posted: 4/12/2014 7:04:16 PM EDT
[#3]
There have already been good recommendations made for sourcing your kit.  I would add though, talk to your EMS crews.  If you are like us, you find yourself working with the same EMS folks all the time.  Talk to them sometime after a call when you both have a few minutes.  Thats usually a great time to ask them what they run.  From my conversations it became obvious that different EMS agencies have different protocols reference blood stoppers/TQ's etc and can converse with honest knowledge about HemCon vs QC and Asherman vs HALO and all those points we love to discuss ad nauseum on the interwebs.  Typically, they can also get you some odds and ends to get you on track.  Some gloves, a couple bundles of 4x4's, and a couple rolls of Coban or Kerlix type stuff and an Ace bandage gets you on the road.  I have yet to see them spare any real high speed items, but they usually will spot me what they can spare.  

Also, look into getting with your local trauma docs, they might hook you up as a department/unit.  If you have a Citizens Police organization, this is an easy sell as a fundraiser, just look at all the saves by officers wearing TQs on their belts when they beat EMS/Fire to Motorcycle accidents and such.  

Also, some of the "pro" websites offer discounts for LE from Tac Med Soultions i.e. promotive, GovX, and similar.

Depending on where you are at, see if you can snag some training.  ALERRT training is excellent and depending on the course, they will hook you up with a kit AND square you away on how to use it.  If you can't find it/can't afford it, talk to a company that offers it and see what the requirements are to host it and you might be able to get a free slot out of the hosting gig.
Link Posted: 4/16/2014 2:55:46 AM EDT
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I have been looking all over to see if anyone puts together a good LEO first aid kit without the fluff. I have come to the conclusion its probably best I put one together.  Can anyone recommend a website that offers fair pricing for individual supplies? The only one I know of is Chinook Medical Gear.  Im looking to put together an active shooter/bleeding control type kit.  I am have good idea of the supplies needed but am always open to suggestions.  Thanks for the help
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+1, my first stop is always a trauma doc since hes in the family and the prices cant be beat.





Otherwise almost always use chinhook but today I happened to use both narescue and tacmed.





I
burned one of my  14 gauge cath needles 'out of my personal stash'
doing a chest decompression a few days ago. The weirdest part of it was
it happened not 10 minues after I wandered into an archived post of one
of the docs here talking about how he keeps one on him all the time just
to safe... kinda creepy, but anyway.





obviously I cant speak for
any specifics on what your dept prefers to run, but I cant give you
recommendations on the latest gear selections per T3C.





when
picking up the cath needle, for the 8 bucks or so I do prefer the little
tytek kit that keeps the needle in a little plastic case which can be
thrown around if need be without issue .





stract


During the recent U.S. Central Command (USCENTCOM) and Joint


Trauma System (JTS) assessment of prehospital trauma care in Afghanistan,


the Deployed Director of the Joint Theater Trauma System (JTTS), CAPT Don


Bennett, questioned why TCCC recommends treating a non-lethal injury (open


pneumothorax) with an intervention (a non-vented chest seal) that could produce


a lethal condition (tension pneumothorax).


New research from the U.S. Army Institute of Surgical Research


(USAISR) has found that, in a model of open pneumothorax treated with a chest


seal in which increments of air were added to the pleural space to simulate an air


leak from an injured lung, use of a vented chest seal prevented the subsequent


development of a tension pneumothorax, whereas use of a non-vented chest


seal did not.


The updated TCCC Guideline for the battlefield management of open


pneumothorax is: "All open and/or sucking chest wounds should be treated by


immediately applying a vented chest seal to cover the defect. If a vented chest


seal is not available, use a non-vented chest seal.
Monitor the casualty for the


potential development of a subsequent tension pneumothorax. If the casualty


develops increasing hypoxia, respiratory distress, or hypotension and a tension


pneumothorax is suspected, treat by burping or removing the dressing or by


needle decompression.”
I
am eagerly looking forward to removing the attributions to those
recommendations and then letting some of the mouthbreathers in GD throw a
shitfit when someone tries to tell them that a lot of the expensive
stuff that they have no idea how to use, and will be relying on one of
us to hopefully help them, pretty often can do more harm then good
depending on the situation.





The funny thing about that
particular T3C update from last summer is that I specifically remember
that exact point being brought up by someone here on arfcom and
responding that they were 100 percent corrrect in their desire to not
help a sick person along to die if doing nothing is in fact the proper
choice in that situation. Of course he was called a fool by all the same
people who were busy at the time stocking up on fish and pig
antibiotics so I guess all you can do is laugh cause they sure as shit
are never gonna learn.





anyway the point is they are asking now that guys such as LEO's carry a vented chest seal such as the Hyfin Vent Chest Seal Twin if given the option. they run something like 12 bucks with the LE discount iirc.





ive
been pretty tempted for a while now to pick up one of those cheap
pulse-ox meters, I think its an interesting purchase worth considering.





even
though it takes a nice bite out of the wallet, I picked up a second of
1.5 inch SOF tq's and a couple ranger bands if I ever want to look super
hispeed and hang it on the chest of my molle.





also make sure
that your npa is actually the correct size for you body. an npa is sized
from the patients nose to his earlobe. this is one of those things that
has always made me look and kinda scratch my head. at what point did
someone decide that people no longer require the correct size npa to be
used?  why just npa, why not opa? why cant  I just start using  a single
sized c-collar on everyone I come across? (cause Ill be sued from now
to eternity most likely) anyway its just odd that npa 28 is what fits
all of a sudden, I always have a handful ready to go as that's how its
always been for me. These I end up replacing a lot since the ones I get
from teh hospital don't do all that well in the trunk of a hot car,
neither does the lube, once it starts looking a little funky it gets
tossed.





other than that don't forget the most important and most
basic 2 things, BSI for whoever's gonna be rescuing your ass (otherwise
that's just plain rude) and either a pocket face mask or plastic face shield depending on how much room you have availabe....




Theres a bunch more recommendations that were made at the last convention a few months ago, im just to lazy to go look them up. when I do ill post them.




don't forget you are going to need a light available as well. in
medicine there is no such thing as having to much light, in or out of
the hospital.




cheers


 
Link Posted: 4/29/2014 8:09:46 PM EDT
[#5]
EMP has good prices on all sorts of shit

PMI was even better but boundtree bought em and i hate boundtree.

Moore Medical is another one I frequent.

+1 on making your own pack. the pre made ones SUCK, generally over filled with shit you dont need and NEVER have enough fucking 4x4s and kling.
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