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Posted: 3/31/2014 11:07:37 PM EDT
Anybody ever had a pistol shipped to the department, instead of going through an FFL?  I didn't think this was possible, but per GT looks like it is.  http://www.gtdist.com/firearmsample.html

Found this also: http://www.ammoland.com/2013/11/atf-on-sales-of-firearms-to-law-enforcement-only-ones/

Washington, DC --(Ammoland.com)- Section 925(a)(1) of the Gun Control Act of 1968 (GCA) generally exempts law enforcement agencies from the transportation, shipment, receipt, possession, or importation controls of the GCA when firearms or ammunition are to be used for official agency business.

A licensee may sell and ship firearms to a law enforcement agency anywhere within the United States. The disposition of each firearm to the agency must be entered into the licensee’s acquisition and disposition (A&D) record.


ATF recommends that the licensee verify that the order is an official request by the law enforcement agency.

If the licensee has reason to doubt the validity of the official request, he or she should contact his or her local ATF office. The licensee is not required to complete any paperwork for the transaction outside of recording the disposition in the A&D record.  However, ATF suggests that the licensee retain an invoice or other receipt of such transaction to reflect the quantity and the description of the firearm(s), including type, manufacturer, model, caliber or gauge, and the serial number.

Law enforcement officers purchasing firearms for official duty use need to provide certain documentation in order to be exempt from completing an ATF Form 4473 and undergoing a NICS check. Law enforcement officers must present to the licensee a certification, which must be on official agency letterhead signed by a person in authority within the agency (other than the person purchasing the firearm).

The certification must state that the officer will use the firearm in official duties and that a records check reveals that the purchasing officer has not been convicted of a misdemeanor crime of domestic violence. ATF recommends that the agency letter should also include the quantity and the description of the firearm(s)- including type, manufacturer, model, caliber or gauge, and the serial number.

There are no restrictions as to the purchasing officer’s State of residence or agency location. Licensees are not required to prepare a Form 4473 for the transaction or to conduct a NICS Check; however, the disposition to the officer must be entered into their A&D records, and the certification letter from the officer must be retained as part of the licensee’s required records.

ATF generally considers the following as persons having authority to certify the eligibility of law enforcement officers: In a city or county police department, the director of public safety or the chief or commissioner of police; In a sheriff ’s office, the sheriff; In a State police or highway patrol department, the superintendent or the supervisor in charge of the office to which the State officer or employee is assigned; and in Federal law enforcement offices, the supervisor in charge of the office to which the Federal officer or employee is assigned.

Certification letters may be signed by persons other than those listed above, provided there is a proper delegation of authority. Because individual circumstances vary, licensees with any questions are encouraged to check with their local ATF field office before accepting certifications letters from other officials. A listing of the offices may be found at: http://www.atf.gov/content/contact-us/local-atf-office .

If a law enforcement officer desiring to purchase a firearm does not have a certification letter, a licensee may still make the sale if the requirements of the Brady law (18 U.S.C. 922(t)), including a NICS background check of the purchaser, are met.

An ATF Form 4473 covering such a sale must be completed, the transaction must be entered in the licensee’s permanent records, and all other applicable requirements of the law and regulations must be met.
Link Posted: 4/1/2014 9:45:59 AM EDT
[#1]
I've had a handgun and long guns sent to my agency.  No problems... just required a letter on Official Letterhead stating it was ok.  Some require a FOR OFFICIAL USE statement.  GT once sent me a pistol which was a personal purchase connected to duty use.
Link Posted: 4/1/2014 5:35:54 PM EDT
[#2]
Very common. Use a letterhead and send it away. It works for any FFL, as long as the weapon is used for duty use.
Link Posted: 4/2/2014 10:37:26 AM EDT
[#3]
I purchase from GT a lot. As in, my current duty rifle, BUG, BUG revolver, suit gun and BUSG (back up suit gun).  Each was delivered to my agency.  I filled out the appropriate paperwork, had my boss sign the paperwork.  When they arrived, turned over the brass to one of our armorers (required for my agency) and that's that.



I love GT.  I almost will forgo buying a gun if they don't offer it....almost.
Link Posted: 4/2/2014 10:56:09 AM EDT
[#4]
That's how our SWAT guys get all their stuff.

Sadly, our brass will not sign off on the requests for anyone but SWAT members

We're not even allowed to carry 1911's or revolvers unless we're on the SWAT team
Link Posted: 4/2/2014 11:46:53 AM EDT
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That's how our SWAT guys get all their stuff.



Sadly, our brass will not sign off on the requests for anyone but SWAT members



We're not even allowed to carry 1911's or revolvers unless we're on the SWAT team
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Two 1911's our Dept has allowed us to purchase via the "send to your PD"

One's for warrant service, one's for Bureau/Court.






Link Posted: 4/6/2014 8:13:31 PM EDT
[#6]
Thank guys, appreciate the feedback.
Link Posted: 4/21/2014 7:28:41 PM EDT
[#7]
I didn't know you could do this either.  I always thought if the gun went to your PD, it was always and forever registered to the PD...thus the PD "owned" it if you ever left.

Is this good for all states?  Sounds too good to be true after all the 4473s I've done in my life.
Link Posted: 4/21/2014 11:20:17 PM EDT
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I didn't know you could do this either.  I always thought if the gun went to your PD, it was always and forever registered to the PD...thus the PD "owned" it if you ever left.

Is this good for all states?  Sounds too good to be true after all the 4473s I've done in my life.
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Yes, its good for all states.  You have to sign some paperwork that says its needed for LE related duties.  Don't think you can order from GT, as they only cover certain states, but the prices are pretty good.  Also, glock only allows 2 pistols are year with the discount.
Link Posted: 5/17/2014 6:41:10 PM EDT
[#9]
Be careful.  Long time ago my Chiefs secretary signed for my Glock 27.  She opened it up, took it to the squad room and left it on a desk without telling anyone.  We had several scumbags on my dept., lucky it wasn't stolen.
Link Posted: 5/19/2014 9:19:47 PM EDT
[#10]
There are probably 15-20 guns in my safe that were shipped straight to my PD from GT.
Link Posted: 5/20/2014 6:22:20 AM EDT
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There are probably 15-20 guns in my safe that were shipped straight to my PD from GT.
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The UPS man delivered one straight to my house from GT!  Good company.
Link Posted: 5/21/2014 6:31:24 AM EDT
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I didn't know you could do this either.  I always thought if the gun went to your PD, it was always and forever registered to the PD...thus the PD "owned" it if you ever left.

Is this good for all states?  Sounds too good to be true after all the 4473s I've done in my life.
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I found something that was in fed statute a long time ago that stipulates that the department (CLEO) can sign over the weapon to individual who separates from the department in good standing. Has anyone seen it?    

Also, any weapon that was acquired either from police related raffle/competition was transferred to a dept member that has a  FFL to handle any of the paperwork.
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