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3/20/2017 5:03:23 PM
Posted: 10/31/2001 9:50:40 AM EDT
Hi: Why is a M16/AR15 a "mousegun?" I have assumed that its because .223 originated from varmint calibers .222 and .222 mag. What's the real story?
Link Posted: 10/31/2001 11:04:33 AM EDT
Mouse = little rat = big Chevy 302, etc = mouse motor 427, etc = rat motor .30 cal = normal gun .22 = smaller than normal = mouse gun I personally doubt it has anything to do with varmint hnting. Just MHO.
Link Posted: 10/31/2001 1:12:06 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Norm_G: Chevy 302, etc = mouse motor
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Chevy has the 305..302 is Ford "The Boss"
Link Posted: 10/31/2001 1:22:29 PM EDT
Hey Vin, Chevy did indeed make a 302 in 1969 or 1970 I believe.
Link Posted: 10/31/2001 7:18:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/31/2001 7:18:49 PM EDT by Vinnie]
Ya know, I think your right. In the 69 Z-28's. It's been a long time since I've "hot rodded." The 69 camaro I had had an LT-1 (350). Back then it wasn't "kewl" to have anything less than a 350. :D So the "Rat Motor" was a big block (extra points for an LS 6 454) and the Mouse motor was the small block 350 (extra points for an LT-1). Ah those were the days. Edited to say: I stand corrected Norm. I appologize
Link Posted: 10/31/2001 7:24:04 PM EDT
I think Jeff Cooper called the M-16 a "poodle shooter".
Link Posted: 11/2/2001 4:16:29 PM EDT
Chevy used the 302 DZ motor in the 1967, 1968, 1969 Z-28 Camaro. In 1970 they went to a 350 c.i. motor with automatic transmission as an option. The origianl 302 Z-28's only came with 4 speed trans.
Link Posted: 11/3/2001 4:37:56 PM EDT
And all this time I thought it was because one of my cousins wrote home during VN about their taking his M14 and giving him some "Mickey Mouse" POS gun (An M16). Tachyon
Link Posted: 11/16/2001 3:07:43 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Carbine_Man: Hi: Why is a M16/AR15 a "mousegun?" I have assumed that its because .223 originated from varmint calibers .222 and .222 mag. What's the real story?
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I’ve heard this story repeated 50 different ways so take it with a grain of salt. But… Supposedly the original Armalite subcontractor for either the plastic furniture or the whole gun (depending on who’s telling it) was Mattel Toy Company. The plastic used in the furniture was produced on the same machines as a model of Disney’s famous mouse character. Thus the Mickey Mouse gun – later shortened to Mouse gun. - I’ve also had several credible people tell me that’s complete hokus. You be the judge.
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