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Posted: 5/27/2012 12:17:26 AM

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Forgive me if this question comes out of my ignorance on the topic. I'm reading "Hidden Agenda: How the Duke of Windsor Betrayed the Allies" by Martin Allen.

As Hitler moved the military into the Rhineland in 1936 the author says, "He (Hitler) feared his actions might provoke France and Britain into a military counter-stroke, precipitating a war he was not yet ready for, and which he knew Germany, in 1936, would surely lose."

Hitler received a message on March 7th and is quoted as saying, "At last! The King of England will not intervene. He is keeping his promise. That means it can all go well."

Thoughts? If England had mobilized in 1936 could war have been prevented in Europe?
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Posted: 5/28/2012 3:26:16 PM
If the French had even marched a token force in response to the Austrian upstart, it would have all over, so once again you can blame the french.( touque planted just a little in cheek). Most of the seeds for WW2 where planted in the Versille peace treaty of 1919, with the revenge laidened demands of France and England. (So once again Blame the French).
As far as the Japanese and the Pacific , if the European powers weren't presecieved as weak the japanese wouldn't have seen so egaer to go to war, but with europeans weak, the japanese took advantage.
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Posted: 5/28/2012 7:17:56 PM
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The German troops had orders to stand down at the first sign of french resistance. It never happened so they marched on the Rhineland, which was a major political win for Hitler. Very similar to how after Germany invaded poland, and england and france declared war on germany, but really didnt take any action.
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Posted: 5/28/2012 8:59:51 PM
Originally Posted By WarChildUSMC:
The German troops had orders to stand down at the first sign of french resistance. It never happened so they marched on the Rhineland, which was a major political win for Hitler. Very similar to how after Germany invaded poland, and england and france declared war on germany, but really didnt take any action.


I'm reading about that right now, the Sitzkrieg.

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Posted: 6/6/2012 8:09:33 AM
Nope, he was a big pussy to begin with. He was not interested in being a leader just a dumb ass.
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Posted: 6/15/2012 11:51:24 PM
Originally Posted By medicmandan:
Forgive me if this question comes out of my ignorance on the topic. I'm reading "Hidden Agenda: How the Duke of Windsor Betrayed the Allies" by Martin Allen.

As Hitler moved the military into the Rhineland in 1936 the author says, "He (Hitler) feared his actions might provoke France and Britain into a military counter-stroke, precipitating a war he was not yet ready for, and which he knew Germany, in 1936, would surely lose."

Hitler received a message on March 7th and is quoted as saying, "At last! The King of England will not intervene. He is keeping his promise. That means it can all go well."

Thoughts? If England had mobilized in 1936 could war have been prevented in Europe?


yES hITLER STATES IN MIENKANPH THAT HE WANTED an alliancewith the british
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Posted: 6/16/2012 11:31:58 AM
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Originally Posted By SD307:
Originally Posted By medicmandan:
Forgive me if this question comes out of my ignorance on the topic. I'm reading "Hidden Agenda: How the Duke of Windsor Betrayed the Allies" by Martin Allen.

As Hitler moved the military into the Rhineland in 1936 the author says, "He (Hitler) feared his actions might provoke France and Britain into a military counter-stroke, precipitating a war he was not yet ready for, and which he knew Germany, in 1936, would surely lose."

Hitler received a message on March 7th and is quoted as saying, "At last! The King of England will not intervene. He is keeping his promise. That means it can all go well."

Thoughts? If England had mobilized in 1936 could war have been prevented in Europe?


yES hITLER STATES IN MIENKANPH THAT HE WANTED an alliancewith the british


Is it true that reading certain books will get the FBI, CIA, DHS on your case? I'm doing alot of research on ww2 lately, and I'd like to read it for historical reasons, see what the mentality was, but dont feel like getting harassed by the feds. Is that a real problem or is it just bs. And what action would they take against you, I mean, they sell a ton of books on ww2, and mein kamph at barns and nobles, so it cant be illegal can it? I mean, reading history dosnt make one a radical anymore than being an American makes one pro obama.

Like, last year I was doing alot of reading on the cold war so I bought a few books on the cold war, and the ussr and Communism, and china and the Cuban missile crisis and nuclear age and all that, just to see what it was all about. Now I'm working back to ww2/ww1 and ill probably go back to the next period after that.
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Posted: 6/20/2012 11:20:51 PM
He was a Nazi supporter so he probably wouldve demanded the Brits join the Axis. Just as well the scumbag abdicated.
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Posted: 6/21/2012 10:10:24 AM
Originally Posted By WarChildUSMC:
Originally Posted By SD307:
Originally Posted By medicmandan:
Forgive me if this question comes out of my ignorance on the topic. I'm reading "Hidden Agenda: How the Duke of Windsor Betrayed the Allies" by Martin Allen.

As Hitler moved the military into the Rhineland in 1936 the author says, "He (Hitler) feared his actions might provoke France and Britain into a military counter-stroke, precipitating a war he was not yet ready for, and which he knew Germany, in 1936, would surely lose."

Hitler received a message on March 7th and is quoted as saying, "At last! The King of England will not intervene. He is keeping his promise. That means it can all go well."

Thoughts? If England had mobilized in 1936 could war have been prevented in Europe?


yES hITLER STATES IN MIENKANPH THAT HE WANTED an alliancewith the british


Is it true that reading certain books will get the FBI, CIA, DHS on your case? I'm doing alot of research on ww2 lately, and I'd like to read it for historical reasons, see what the mentality was, but dont feel like getting harassed by the feds. Is that a real problem or is it just bs. And what action would they take against you, I mean, they sell a ton of books on ww2, and mein kamph at barns and nobles, so it cant be illegal can it? I mean, reading history dosnt make one a radical anymore than being an American makes one pro obama.

Like, last year I was doing alot of reading on the cold war so I bought a few books on the cold war, and the ussr and Communism, and china and the Cuban missile crisis and nuclear age and all that, just to see what it was all about. Now I'm working back to ww2/ww1 and ill probably go back to the next period after that.


Bullshit. Go down to your local bookstore or Amazon and grab a copy.
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Posted: 6/21/2012 7:09:26 PM
Intervention in 1936 would have humiliated Germany and especially Hitler. All the Royal Navy had to do was anchor off the German coast and cause panic there. Of course, France will have to march into the Rhineland too.
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Posted: 6/22/2012 12:24:15 AM
I'm getting to the end of this book and I think if he a was any other person he would have been charged with treason.

There are allusions to many, many documents that are set to be released in 2016 related Edward's involvement with the Nazi party.
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Posted: 6/22/2012 1:36:48 AM
Originally Posted By medicmandan:
I'm getting to the end of this book and I think if he a was any other person he would have been charged with treason.

There are allusions to many, many documents that are set to be released in 2016 related Edward's involvement with the Nazi party.


Hess flew to Scotland to meet with the royals because he thought he would be warmly welcomed and could prove his worth to Hitler again. Edward was just like Mosley, just another continental nazi lover.
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Posted: 7/1/2012 10:09:57 PM
Don't forget there were a lot of US Nazi lovers too. Off the top of my head, the father of JFK was a huge Nazi supporter, as was Charles Lindbergh. We seem to forget it now, but in his day he was Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods (preaccident), Dale Earnheart, Derek Jetter all rolled into one and held huge sway over the public.
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Originally Posted By akodo:
Don't forget there were a lot of US Nazi lovers too. Off the top of my head, the father of JFK was a huge Nazi supporter, as was Charles Lindbergh. We seem to forget it now, but in his day he was Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods (preaccident), Dale Earnheart, Derek Jetter all rolled into one and held huge sway over the public.


Errol Flynn is mentioned in the book.
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Posted: 7/1/2012 10:31:58 PM
No. Just no.

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