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3/20/2017 5:03:23 PM
Posted: 1/14/2002 6:57:29 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/14/2002 10:17:30 AM EDT by Chaingun]
[url]http://www.dailynews.com/NEWS/articles/0102/12/NEW02.asp[/url] So, how does someone prove they own a safe, has anyone tried this yet?
"It'll absolutely save lives," said Luis Tolley, the Western director of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence. "When you buy a weapon, it will come with a lock designed for that gun. We think that most people will store it with that lock in the same way aspirin is stored with a childproof cap." ----- The number of accidental deaths by guns decreased last year across Los Angeles County, according to the county Department of Health Services. In 1998, 10 people were killed. In 1999, 15 people were killed. And in 2000, four people were killed.
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Link Posted: 1/14/2002 10:26:04 AM EDT
When you don't have a reciept you sign an affidavit that you have a safe which meets the requirements. What gets me is you can buy a cheap trigger lock but if you have a safe it has stringent requirements. WTF? It would take you longer to get into a locking file cabnet than remove a trigger lock.
Link Posted: 1/15/2002 7:38:34 AM EDT
Definition of a legal gun safe [url]http://caag.state.ca.us/firearms/gunsafe.htm [/url] Gun cabinets are out, along with safes with exposed hinges
Door hinges shall be protected to prevent the removal of the door. Protective features include, but are not limited to: [b]hinges not exposed to the outside[/b], interlocking door designs, dead bars, jeweler’s lugs and active or inactive locking bolts.
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Safe designers have spent 1000s of man years developing exposed hinged safes, only to be told they are not allowed. List of approved safety locks. [url]http://caag.state.ca.us/firearms/fsdcertlist.htm[/url]
Link Posted: 1/15/2002 12:07:05 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Chaingun: Definition of a legal gun safe [url]http://caag.state.ca.us/firearms/gunsafe.htm [/url] Gun cabinets are out, along with safes with exposed hinges
Door hinges shall be protected to prevent the removal of the door. Protective features include, but are not limited to: [b]hinges not exposed to the outside[/b], interlocking door designs, dead bars, jeweler’s lugs and active or inactive locking bolts.
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Safe designers have spent 1000s of man years developing exposed hinged safes, only to be told they are not allowed. List of approved safety locks. [url]http://caag.state.ca.us/firearms/fsdcertlist.htm[/url]
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Thats not what they are saying. They are not saying that exposed hinge safes are not allowed, just that they must have some other protective measure to prevent opening of the safe on the hinge side. Good safes with exposed hinges have locking bolts on the the hinge side. They advertise that even by cutting off the hinges, the door won't open. What they are talking about are the safes that don't have good locking systems and only have bolts on the non-hinge side. Those "safes" can be opened by cutting the hinges off.
Link Posted: 1/15/2002 5:36:36 PM EDT
Yeah trigger locks are great if my 10/22 is cocked and you touch the lock too hard it fires thats a great feature!
Link Posted: 1/15/2002 9:15:36 PM EDT
Which takes us back to the question of choice. A $5 lock or a $500 safe.
Link Posted: 1/20/2002 5:54:06 PM EDT
Originally Posted By 1911greg: Yeah trigger locks are great if my 10/22 is cocked and you touch the lock too hard it fires thats a great feature!
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ahhh, why would your 10/22 be loaded, cocked, and then have a trigger lock on it? I would imagine the better trigger locks would be the cable kind, thick and well made to lock up the action.
Link Posted: 1/20/2002 8:51:46 PM EDT
LE6920 Sorry I should be more specific I was trying to make a point that the trigger lock that I have on my 10/22 "could" be fired if you pull it back now all it does is go "CLICK" I wouldn't keep my 10/22 loaded for two reasons one why the hell would you put a lock very close to the trigger on a loaded gun and why would I want to keep it loaded, for my primary home defense weapon? you know how much power those 22 have!
Link Posted: 1/20/2002 8:52:37 PM EDT
Oh yeah to prove you have a safe all you have to do is bring your safe into the gun shop.
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