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Posted: 4/10/2015 11:10:45 AM EDT
Hypothetically, if I own a non sbr ar pistol, can I put it on my schedule A? The reason is that then, later if I sbr it it'll be trust property and I woo t have to pay to transfer it. That's my logic. Is it correct?
Link Posted: 4/10/2015 1:44:36 PM EDT
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Quoted:  Hypothetically, if I own a non sbr ar pistol, can I put it on my schedule A? The reason is that then, later if I sbr it it'll be trust property and I woo t have to pay to transfer it. That's my logic. Is it correct?
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You'll still have to pay the tax to shorten the bbl.  One of the advantages of having Title 1 firearms in a trust is the trust can ship them across state lines to other trust members, which can be handy if one member travels a lot.
Link Posted: 4/10/2015 10:20:41 PM EDT
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You'll still have to pay the tax to shorten the bbl.  One of the advantages of having Title 1 firearms in a trust is the trust can ship them across state lines to other trust members, which can be handy if one member travels a lot.  
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Quoted:  Hypothetically, if I own a non sbr ar pistol, can I put it on my schedule A? The reason is that then, later if I sbr it it'll be trust property and I woo t have to pay to transfer it. That's my logic. Is it correct?


You'll still have to pay the tax to shorten the bbl.  One of the advantages of having Title 1 firearms in a trust is the trust can ship them across state lines to other trust members, which can be handy if one member travels a lot.  

Nope.
See 18 USC 922(a)(3), 18 USC 922(a)(5) and 18 USC 922(b)(3):18 U.S.C. 922. Unlawful acts

(a) It shall be unlawful—
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(3) for any person, other than a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, licensed dealer, or licensed collector to transport into or receive in the State where he resides (or if the person is a corporation or other business entity, the State where it maintains a place of business) any firearm purchased or otherwise obtained by such person outside that State, except that this paragraph

(A) shall not preclude any person who lawfully acquires a firearm by bequest or intestate succession in a State other than his State of residence from transporting the firearm into or receiving it in that State, if it is lawful for such person to purchase or possess such firearm in that State,

(B) shall not apply to the transportation or receipt of a firearm obtained in conformity with subsection (b)(3) of this section, and (C) shall not apply to the transportation of any firearm acquired in any State prior to the effective date of this chapter;

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(5) for any person (other than a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, licensed dealer, or licensed collector) to transfer, sell, trade, give, transport, or deliver any firearm to any person (other than a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, licensed dealer, or licensed collector) who the transferor knows or has reasonable cause to believe does not reside in (or if the person is a corporation or other business entity, does not maintain a place of business in) the State in which the transferor resides; except that this paragraph shall not apply to

(A) the transfer, transportation, or delivery of a firearm made to carry out a bequest of a firearm to, or an acquisition by intestate succession of a firearm by, a person who is permitted to acquire or possess a firearm under the laws of the State of his residence, and

(B) the loan or rental of a firearm to any person for temporary use for lawful sporting purposes;

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(b) It shall be unlawful for any licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, licensed dealer, or licensed collector to sell or deliver --
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(3) any firearm to any person who the licensee knows or has reasonable cause to believe does not reside in (or if the person is a corporation or other business entity, does not maintain a place of business in) the State in which the licensee's place of business is located, except that this paragraph

(A) shall not apply to the sale or delivery of any rifle or shotgun to a resident of a State other than a State in which the licensee's place of business is located if the transferee meets in person with the transferor to accomplish the transfer, and the sale, delivery, and receipt fully comply with the legal conditions of sale in both such States (and any licensed manufacturer, importer or dealer shall be presumed, for purposes of this subparagraph, in the absence of evidence to the contrary, to have had actual knowledge of the State laws and published ordinances of both States), and

(B) shall not apply to the loan or rental of a firearm to any person for temporary use for lawful sporting purposes;

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Link Posted: 4/12/2015 12:05:11 PM EDT
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Does that fall into the whole "Trust is not a person" thing the BATFE is pushing?  Or perhaps I misunderstood a previous thread incorrectly.  Thanks for the cite.
Link Posted: 4/12/2015 2:27:48 PM EDT
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Does that fall into the whole "Trust is not a person" thing the BATFE is pushing?  Or perhaps I misunderstood a previous thread incorrectly.  Thanks for the cite.
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The trust doesn't transfer firearms across state lines..........people do.
Link Posted: 4/14/2015 9:23:26 AM EDT
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Hypothetically, if I own a non sbr ar pistol, can I put it on my schedule A? The reason is that then, later if I sbr it it'll be trust property and I woo t have to pay to transfer it. That's my logic. Is it correct?
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Ignoring the interstate tranfer discussion going on and getting back to your question about taxes. Whether the AR pistol is owned by your or the trust, the $200 tax and a Form 1 must still be filed. You will be making a Title 2 firearm from a Title 1 firearm no matter who owns the original Title 1 firearm. That requires the tax and Form 1.
Link Posted: 4/14/2015 9:37:26 AM EDT
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I have all of my firearms on my trust along with non firearm related items. I did so for the ease of inheritance.
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